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Old August 27th, 2009, 08:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
aitch[_2_]
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Default Scanning and Word

I'm posting this here as I am new to Word 2007 but have used earlier versions
for some time. My OS is Vista.

Office 2007 includes MS Office Document Scanning (accessed through MS Office
Tools). I have set it up to use with a 3 in 1 Printer/Scanner/Fax (Toshiba).
All straight forward enough.

When I scan a text page using the above the scan looks excellent on screen
and Save As gives me a TIF file in Documents as file.mdi. I go to 'opens
with', browse into Programme Files/MS office/Office 12/and select Winword as
my default.

Unfortunately what I then get when I open the file in not English like wot
it's wrote but another format that makes no sense to me, described as Windows
(Default) - one of the 3 options offered.

Would some knowledgeable person out there please tell me what I should do to
have Word and an understandable page?

Many thank in advance,

Aitch
  #2  
Old August 27th, 2009, 11:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Amish
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Default Scanning and Word

Are you saying that you are attempting to open a TIF using Word? If
so, what you are seeing is Word attempting to decode an image that it
cannot read.

Many OCR programs are available that will convert your TIF image into
text for you that Word will be able to read and manage. Tesseract
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/tesseract-ocr/) is a free, open
source package that was originally developed by HP and will do the
job. There are also many other programs available, one of which may
have come with your scanner.

On Aug 27, 3:26*pm, aitch wrote:
I'm posting this here as I am new to Word 2007 but have used earlier versions
for some time. My OS is Vista.

Office 2007 includes MS Office Document Scanning (accessed through MS Office
Tools). I have set it up to use with a 3 in 1 Printer/Scanner/Fax (Toshiba).
All straight forward enough. *

When I scan a text page using the above the scan looks excellent on screen
and Save As gives me a *TIF file in Documents as file.mdi. I go to 'opens
with', browse into Programme Files/MS office/Office 12/and select Winword as
my default.

Unfortunately what I then get when I open the file in not English like wot
it's wrote but another format that makes no sense to me, described as Windows
(Default) - one of the 3 options offered.

Would some knowledgeable person out there please tell me what I should do to
have Word and an understandable page?

Many thank in advance,

Aitch


  #3  
Old August 28th, 2009, 06:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Graham Mayor
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Default Scanning and Word

Microsoft Office Document Scanning produces a graphical representation of
the document either as TIF or MDI format. Neither can be opened in Word
(though TIF can be inserted as an image). If you want editable text you need
to use Microsoft Office Document Imaging which is a rudimentary OCR software
package that can convert the TIF or MDI to editable text.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



aitch wrote:
I'm posting this here as I am new to Word 2007 but have used earlier
versions for some time. My OS is Vista.

Office 2007 includes MS Office Document Scanning (accessed through MS
Office Tools). I have set it up to use with a 3 in 1
Printer/Scanner/Fax (Toshiba). All straight forward enough.

When I scan a text page using the above the scan looks excellent on
screen and Save As gives me a TIF file in Documents as file.mdi. I
go to 'opens with', browse into Programme Files/MS office/Office
12/and select Winword as my default.

Unfortunately what I then get when I open the file in not English
like wot it's wrote but another format that makes no sense to me,
described as Windows (Default) - one of the 3 options offered.

Would some knowledgeable person out there please tell me what I
should do to have Word and an understandable page?

Many thank in advance,

Aitch



  #4  
Old August 29th, 2009, 04:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
aitch[_2_]
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Default Scanning and Word

First of all, thank you both for your views.

It's clear that I was completely going the wrong way and getting lost. But
since I read your comments I have switched to trying the process through MS
Office Document Imaging and using Tesseract - both of which you suggested.
(Incidentally my printer is HP not Toshiba as I said).

I'm still not there though.

I have got as far as creating a file 'Test Scan'and have opened a folder in
docs "From Modi" and put it there.
The full branch is C:\Users\Pat\Documents\From Modi\Test Scan.tif.

A right click on the file (Test Scan) gives me the option to 'Open with'
Tif to text processing. After choosing this option I come to a full stop and
need help. Whatever I seem to do doesn't let me go any further. What exactly
should I put into the Root Folder / Input folder sections of Tesseract to
proceed. Please help, it's driving me potty.

Again thank you both for your help.

Aitch









"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Microsoft Office Document Scanning produces a graphical representation of
the document either as TIF or MDI format. Neither can be opened in Word
(though TIF can be inserted as an image). If you want editable text you need
to use Microsoft Office Document Imaging which is a rudimentary OCR software
package that can convert the TIF or MDI to editable text.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



aitch wrote:
I'm posting this here as I am new to Word 2007 but have used earlier
versions for some time. My OS is Vista.

Office 2007 includes MS Office Document Scanning (accessed through MS
Office Tools). I have set it up to use with a 3 in 1
Printer/Scanner/Fax (Toshiba). All straight forward enough.

When I scan a text page using the above the scan looks excellent on
screen and Save As gives me a TIF file in Documents as file.mdi. I
go to 'opens with', browse into Programme Files/MS office/Office
12/and select Winword as my default.

Unfortunately what I then get when I open the file in not English
like wot it's wrote but another format that makes no sense to me,
described as Windows (Default) - one of the 3 options offered.

Would some knowledgeable person out there please tell me what I
should do to have Word and an understandable page?

Many thank in advance,

Aitch




  #5  
Old August 30th, 2009, 05:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
aitch[_2_]
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Posts: 14
Default Scanning and Word

Hello again,

This is August Bank Holiday Monday in the UK (that means it's a National
holiday - the last before Christmas) and inevitably it's wet and unpleasant.
That means I've had time to look again at the scanning problem and have
solved it.

Microsoft Office Document Scanning is the answer. I scanned using it and the
automatic OCR in it came into play. Then Tools/Send text to Word gives me the
file I want in Documents.

So it's all done and dusted now. Thank you both again for your help and
pointing me in the right direction.

Regards.


"aitch" wrote:

First of all, thank you both for your views.

It's clear that I was completely going the wrong way and getting lost. But
since I read your comments I have switched to trying the process through MS
Office Document Imaging and using Tesseract - both of which you suggested.
(Incidentally my printer is HP not Toshiba as I said).

I'm still not there though.

I have got as far as creating a file 'Test Scan'and have opened a folder in
docs "From Modi" and put it there.
The full branch is C:\Users\Pat\Documents\From Modi\Test Scan.tif.

A right click on the file (Test Scan) gives me the option to 'Open with'
Tif to text processing. After choosing this option I come to a full stop and
need help. Whatever I seem to do doesn't let me go any further. What exactly
should I put into the Root Folder / Input folder sections of Tesseract to
proceed. Please help, it's driving me potty.

Again thank you both for your help.

Aitch









"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Microsoft Office Document Scanning produces a graphical representation of
the document either as TIF or MDI format. Neither can be opened in Word
(though TIF can be inserted as an image). If you want editable text you need
to use Microsoft Office Document Imaging which is a rudimentary OCR software
package that can convert the TIF or MDI to editable text.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



aitch wrote:
I'm posting this here as I am new to Word 2007 but have used earlier
versions for some time. My OS is Vista.

Office 2007 includes MS Office Document Scanning (accessed through MS
Office Tools). I have set it up to use with a 3 in 1
Printer/Scanner/Fax (Toshiba). All straight forward enough.

When I scan a text page using the above the scan looks excellent on
screen and Save As gives me a TIF file in Documents as file.mdi. I
go to 'opens with', browse into Programme Files/MS office/Office
12/and select Winword as my default.

Unfortunately what I then get when I open the file in not English
like wot it's wrote but another format that makes no sense to me,
described as Windows (Default) - one of the 3 options offered.

Would some knowledgeable person out there please tell me what I
should do to have Word and an understandable page?

Many thank in advance,

Aitch




  #6  
Old August 31st, 2009, 10:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
76yrsold
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Default Scanning and Word

On Aug 30, 9:09*pm, aitch wrote:
Hello again,

This is August Bank Holiday Monday in the UK (that means it's a National
holiday - the last before Christmas) and inevitably it's wet and unpleasant.

  #7  
Old August 31st, 2009, 07:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
aitch[_2_]
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Default Scanning and Word

Hello 76,

I didn't understand your question and I think it needs reposting. If it's
addressed to me I'll try to help but your best bet would be one of the
experts here.

From a 75 year old

Aitch


"76yrsold" wrote:

On Aug 30, 9:09 pm, aitch wrote:
Hello again,

This is August Bank Holiday Monday in the UK (that means it's a National
holiday - the last before Christmas) and inevitably it's wet and unpleasant.
That means I've had time to look again at the scanning problem and have
solved it.

Microsoft Office Document Scanning is the answer. I scanned using it and the
automatic OCR in it came into play. Then Tools/Send text to Word gives me the
file I want in Documents.

So it's all done and dusted now. Thank you both again for your help and
pointing me in the right direction.

Regards.

"aitch" wrote:
First of all, thank you both for your views.


It's clear that I was completely going the wrong way and getting lost. But
since I read your comments I have switched to trying the process through MS
Office Document Imaging and using Tesseract - both of which you suggested.
(Incidentally my printer is HP not Toshiba as I said).


I'm still not there though.


I have got as far as creating a file 'Test Scan'and have opened a folder in
docs "From Modi" and put it there.
The full branch is C:\Users\Pat\Documents\From Modi\Test Scan.tif.


A right click on the file (Test Scan) gives me the option to 'Open with'
Tif to text processing. After choosing this option I come to a full stop and
need help. Whatever I seem to do doesn't let me go any further. What exactly
should I put into the Root Folder / Input folder sections of Tesseract to
proceed. Please help, it's driving me potty.


Again thank you both for your help.


Aitch


"Graham Mayor" wrote:


Microsoft Office Document Scanning produces a graphical representation of
the document either as TIF or MDI format. Neither can be opened in Word
(though TIF can be inserted as an image). If you want editable text you need
to use Microsoft Office Document Imaging which is a rudimentary OCR software
package that can convert the TIF or MDI to editable text.


--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP


My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org


aitch wrote:
I'm posting this here as I am new to Word 2007 but have used earlier
versions for some time. My OS is Vista.


Office 2007 includes MS Office Document Scanning (accessed through MS
Office Tools). I have set it up to use with a 3 in 1
Printer/Scanner/Fax (Toshiba). All straight forward enough.


When I scan a text page using the above the scan looks excellent on

Which language you are trying to scan in MSword and not English?

screen and Save As gives me a TIF file in Documents as file.mdi. I
go to 'opens with', browse into Programme Files/MS office/Office
12/and select Winword as my default.


Unfortunately what I then get when I open the file in not English
like wot it's wrote but another format that makes no sense to me,
described as Windows (Default) - one of the 3 options offered.


Would some knowledgeable person out there please tell me what I
should do to have Word and an understandable page?


Many thank in advance,


Aitch



 




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