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stationary template logo help
Help :-) I've searched all over the place and found dozens of almost
complete answers... all I want to do is place a logo in the top left corner of the first page such that it prints along with my letters rather than printing stationary in one pass and then sending those pages through the printer again. People have answered put the image in the header, send the image to the background, how about a watermark, etc., etc. I don't know if they just give out answers without trying it or they assume our settings are the same or what is happening but it just about never works. I created a template, looks great. I use the template, hey it's working, delete some text... oops there goes the logo. That can't be what people are asking for when they pose this question. If it's difficult does somebody know of a site that outlines it? The logo has to be placed in a particular spot on the page. It's letterhead so it should only appear on the first page (so I don't think I want to imbed it into a header) besides wouldn't that use up the header if we needed to use that also? If we type text it shouldn't start pushing the graphic around the page. If we select all and delete the stuff we typed it would be ideal if the logo and anything else we consider part of the template remained. I don't know enough about Word to know if it has a sense of "layers" but generally speaking we just want a background layer that for all intents and purposes acts like the paper. If it needs to be modified then the template would be modified not the document based upon it. Thanks so much for any pointers, particular to a step 1, step 2, step 3, voila... wasn't this easier than you imagined sort of document :-) Tom |
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Here's a step by step:
http://home.earthlink.net/~wordfaqs/Letterhead.htm Yes, you do want it in a first page header. The linked article will explain. On 1/14/05 4:09 PM, "Tom Leylan" wrote: Help :-) I've searched all over the place and found dozens of almost complete answers... all I want to do is place a logo in the top left corner of the first page such that it prints along with my letters rather than printing stationary in one pass and then sending those pages through the printer again. People have answered put the image in the header, send the image to the background, how about a watermark, etc., etc. I don't know if they just give out answers without trying it or they assume our settings are the same or what is happening but it just about never works. I created a template, looks great. I use the template, hey it's working, delete some text... oops there goes the logo. That can't be what people are asking for when they pose this question. If it's difficult does somebody know of a site that outlines it? The logo has to be placed in a particular spot on the page. It's letterhead so it should only appear on the first page (so I don't think I want to imbed it into a header) besides wouldn't that use up the header if we needed to use that also? If we type text it shouldn't start pushing the graphic around the page. If we select all and delete the stuff we typed it would be ideal if the logo and anything else we consider part of the template remained. I don't know enough about Word to know if it has a sense of "layers" but generally speaking we just want a background layer that for all intents and purposes acts like the paper. If it needs to be modified then the template would be modified not the document based upon it. Thanks so much for any pointers, particular to a step 1, step 2, step 3, voila... wasn't this easier than you imagined sort of document :-) Tom -- Daiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/ MacWord Tips: http://www.word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/ What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ |
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Hello... I appreciate the link but I probably wasn't clear. Maybe my
letterhead is unusual but in any case it doesn't stretch across the top of the page. I've been able to do all things every ponter points out but that isn't the same as the "layer" affect I'm looking for. It literally shouldn't take up any space on the surface I write my letter on. Let me be more clear though. Hopefully this looks like a page with a logo in the top-right corner. Notice how far down it is? I can't waste the top 1/3 of the paper and just start typing below the logo. The letter (the address and salutation) fits quite comfortably in the top-left area and by the time the paragraphs start I'm below the logo. If I set a graphic up in that corner (header or not it doesn't matter) I can print these pages fine. But that means I have to feed the pages back through when I want to print the letter. That might be better but I'd like to try to do it in one pass. I don't need Word to make certain I don't type on top of the logo, if I want to type on the top of it that should be up. What is happening when I put the graphic in the header is (and I could be doing it wrong) I force it to the right corner by moving the left margin otherwise the header stretches across the entire page. Word is definitely not going to let me type over the empty space in the margin right? So I'm trying to push the header to the right side. Well of course it then thinks my paper is really narrow. I just need the header over there not the rest of it. Again that's why I describe it as a layer. If it could be treated as a background instead of a foreground object it insists match the rules for the letter (margins and such) it work fine. It's trying to help too much. Some postings have suggested a watermark. I obviously wouldn't want it faded like a watermark but I think that can be set. I tried it but I can't find a way to get it into the corner and I suspect I'm going to have trouble getting it to not print on subsequent pages. Am I still doing something wrong or is this just not one of the letterheads it can handle? Is there any way to define an irregularly shaped body or to define something called an image (which also works) but lock it into place? I just need Word to leave it where I place the thing and quit trying to help me out. Is there a way to define a textbox which I can type into that can be placed on top of the page including the image? Thanks again. +-----------------------+ | LLLLLL | | LLLLLL | | LLLLLL | | LLLLLL | | | | | | | | | | | +------------------------+ .. "Daiya Mitchell" wrote... Here's a step by step: http://home.earthlink.net/~wordfaqs/Letterhead.htm Yes, you do want it in a first page header. The linked article will explain. On 1/14/05 4:09 PM, "Tom Leylan" wrote: Help :-) I've searched all over the place and found dozens of almost complete answers... all I want to do is place a logo in the top left corner of the first page such that it prints along with my letters rather than printing stationary in one pass and then sending those pages through the printer again. People have answered put the image in the header, send the image to the background, how about a watermark, etc., etc. I don't know if they just give out answers without trying it or they assume our settings are the same or what is happening but it just about never works. I created a template, looks great. I use the template, hey it's working, delete some text... oops there goes the logo. That can't be what people are asking for when they pose this question. If it's difficult does somebody know of a site that outlines it? The logo has to be placed in a particular spot on the page. It's letterhead so it should only appear on the first page (so I don't think I want to imbed it into a header) besides wouldn't that use up the header if we needed to use that also? If we type text it shouldn't start pushing the graphic around the page. If we select all and delete the stuff we typed it would be ideal if the logo and anything else we consider part of the template remained. I don't know enough about Word to know if it has a sense of "layers" but generally speaking we just want a background layer that for all intents and purposes acts like the paper. If it needs to be modified then the template would be modified not the document based upon it. Thanks so much for any pointers, particular to a step 1, step 2, step 3, voila... wasn't this easier than you imagined sort of document :-) Tom -- Daiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/ MacWord Tips: http://www.word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/ What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ |
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Oh... a quick addendum. Placing an image is working pretty well. It lets
me type in the top left corner and I can type on top of the logo if I want so I have control of the page. The problem is the image (though added to the template) is an object and when I select all the text and delete it the image goes with it. So this would work fine if "lock the image" was a possibility. Can one lock objects in a template such that they cannot be removed from a document formed using them? |
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Well I'm not alone anyway...
http://www.mcse.ms/archive138-2004-12-1278993.html http://www.mcse.ms/archive138-2004-12-1261763.html This is close: http://www.jmu.edu/computing/ittrain...dvlayout.shtml but nothing I can find stops the image from being deleted accidentally. How handy that would be... |
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Some progress but I still think it ultimately isn't going to work quite like
I'd hoped. I filled out the image to so the logo appears in the corner of the image. Prior to that I had cut away most of the white space. And by doing this I can make the image a watermark. And that of course acts like a separate layer and it can't be accidentally deleted. Couple of small problems with it however. The watermark for no great reason I don't think obeys the margins. This means the watermark image cannot extend further out on a page than the area available for typing. That's a bit odd because I can print the image very close to the edge but I surely don't want my paragraphs wrapped at that spot. The second problem is as I suspected, the watermark will appear on every page and there appears to be no option to make it print on the first page only. So close yet so far. I often wish the tools didn't try so hard to be so smart sometimes. If anybody has any other suggestions I'd appreciate it. Especially "I've been trying to do this for months" in which case I'd know I should give up :-) Thanks |
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Try anchoring the graphic to the *footer* rather than the header, and make
sure the graphic is floating, not inline. This way a) it won't get moved or deleted by whatever text you put in the body of the document, and b) it won't use up any of the "letter space" -- the body of the letter will simply run over the top of it if that's where you choose to type. It doesn't matter if the footer has nothing else in it. "Tom Leylan" wrote in message ... Well I'm not alone anyway... http://www.mcse.ms/archive138-2004-12-1278993.html http://www.mcse.ms/archive138-2004-12-1261763.html This is close: http://www.jmu.edu/computing/ittrain...dvlayout.shtml but nothing I can find stops the image from being deleted accidentally. How handy that would be... |
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Word does have a sense of layers, and it will do what you want.
How are you putting the logo in the file? If you are using Insert | picture, in my browse dialog there is a checkbox for "treat pictures as separate layer" that needs to be checked before inserting. That will allow you to anchor the picture in the header, then drag it to wherever you want. Word will type right over it, as it will be a separate layer. Go back to the link to learn about First Page Headers to prevent it appearing on every page (or to fix your existing watermark question). Alternatively, use a borderless table, set the graphic in the right side of the table, type the address, etc in the left side of the table. DM On 1/14/05 10:00 PM, "Tom Leylan" wrote: Hello... I appreciate the link but I probably wasn't clear. Maybe my letterhead is unusual but in any case it doesn't stretch across the top of the page. I've been able to do all things every ponter points out but that isn't the same as the "layer" affect I'm looking for. It literally shouldn't take up any space on the surface I write my letter on. Let me be more clear though. Hopefully this looks like a page with a logo in the top-right corner. Notice how far down it is? I can't waste the top 1/3 of the paper and just start typing below the logo. The letter (the address and salutation) fits quite comfortably in the top-left area and by the time the paragraphs start I'm below the logo. If I set a graphic up in that corner (header or not it doesn't matter) I can print these pages fine. But that means I have to feed the pages back through when I want to print the letter. That might be better but I'd like to try to do it in one pass. I don't need Word to make certain I don't type on top of the logo, if I want to type on the top of it that should be up. What is happening when I put the graphic in the header is (and I could be doing it wrong) I force it to the right corner by moving the left margin otherwise the header stretches across the entire page. Word is definitely not going to let me type over the empty space in the margin right? So I'm trying to push the header to the right side. Well of course it then thinks my paper is really narrow. I just need the header over there not the rest of it. Again that's why I describe it as a layer. If it could be treated as a background instead of a foreground object it insists match the rules for the letter (margins and such) it work fine. It's trying to help too much. Some postings have suggested a watermark. I obviously wouldn't want it faded like a watermark but I think that can be set. I tried it but I can't find a way to get it into the corner and I suspect I'm going to have trouble getting it to not print on subsequent pages. Am I still doing something wrong or is this just not one of the letterheads it can handle? Is there any way to define an irregularly shaped body or to define something called an image (which also works) but lock it into place? I just need Word to leave it where I place the thing and quit trying to help me out. Is there a way to define a textbox which I can type into that can be placed on top of the page including the image? Thanks again. +-----------------------+ | LLLLLL | | LLLLLL | | LLLLLL | | LLLLLL | | | | | | | | | | | +------------------------+ . |
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You'd make life easier for yourself if you just followed the instructions
that have already been given. File Page Setup Layout tab. Check the 'Different first page' checkbox. You want the graphic attached to the First Page Header (or footer), as Daiya mentioned in the first post. Graphics do not follow the margins. They will be cropped according to the printer's minimum margins, if any. If the graphic is anchored to the header or footer it can't be deleted accidentally. (Unless you're deleting paragraphs in the header or footer!) Every graphic is anchored to a paragraphs *somewhere* on the page. If you delete the anchor paragraph you delete the graphic also. But mainly, stop being so bloody defeatist! Most letterheads are pretty much as you are trying to create, and the problem is eminently solvable. "Tom Leylan" wrote in message ... Some progress but I still think it ultimately isn't going to work quite like I'd hoped. I filled out the image to so the logo appears in the corner of the image. Prior to that I had cut away most of the white space. And by doing this I can make the image a watermark. And that of course acts like a separate layer and it can't be accidentally deleted. Couple of small problems with it however. The watermark for no great reason I don't think obeys the margins. This means the watermark image cannot extend further out on a page than the area available for typing. That's a bit odd because I can print the image very close to the edge but I surely don't want my paragraphs wrapped at that spot. The second problem is as I suspected, the watermark will appear on every page and there appears to be no option to make it print on the first page only. So close yet so far. I often wish the tools didn't try so hard to be so smart sometimes. If anybody has any other suggestions I'd appreciate it. Especially "I've been trying to do this for months" in which case I'd know I should give up :-) Thanks |
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Excellent it's working now.
"Daiya Mitchell" wrote... Word does have a sense of layers, and it will do what you want. How are you putting the logo in the file? If you are using Insert | picture, in my browse dialog there is a checkbox for "treat pictures as separate layer" that needs to be checked before inserting. That will allow you to anchor the picture in the header, then drag it to wherever you want. Word will type right over it, as it will be a separate layer. Go back to the link to learn about First Page Headers to prevent it appearing on every page (or to fix your existing watermark question). Alternatively, use a borderless table, set the graphic in the right side of the table, type the address, etc in the left side of the table. |
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