OE6 and AVG (Free Edition)

Could I get 100% confirmation from this newsgroup
that OE6 does not support AVG Email Scanner
and that currently MS Outlook is the only Email client
supported. Thanks a bunch. (OPsys=XPHome)



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Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.737 / Virus Database: 491 - Release Date: 11/08/2004

Aquarius wrote:
Could I get 100% confirmation from this newsgroup
that OE6 does not support AVG Email Scanner
and that currently MS Outlook is the only Email client
supported. Thanks a bunch. (OPsys=XPHome)



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Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.737 / Virus Database: 491 - Release Date: 11/08/2004


I'm running both. I have turned off my e-mail checker, based on advice
received in this NG. However, I ran a test and the "Outgoing mail is
certified..." message does not appear. It was there when I had mail scan on
and I was running OE5, prior to an upgrade.

--
Doug Main
"It's never too late to have a happy childhood."

It doesn't make a difference because that signature such as...

| Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
| Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
| Version: 6.0.737 / Virus Database: 491 - Release Date: 11/08/2004

Is misleading and FALSE.
The question is can it scan MAPI like in Outlook 97/98/2000/XP/2003 ?

Dave




"Doug Main" wrote in message
news:iCLTc.110566$M95.91005@pd7tw1no...
| Aquarius wrote:
| Could I get 100% confirmation from this newsgroup
| that OE6 does not support AVG Email Scanner
| and that currently MS Outlook is the only Email client
| supported. Thanks a bunch. (OPsys=XPHome)
|
|
|
| ---
| Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
| Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
| Version: 6.0.737 / Virus Database: 491 - Release Date: 11/08/2004
|
|
| I'm running both. I have turned off my e-mail checker, based on advice
| received in this NG. However, I ran a test and the "Outgoing mail is
| certified..." message does not appear. It was there when I had mail scan on
| and I was running OE5, prior to an upgrade.
|
| --
| Doug Main
| "It's never too late to have a happy childhood."
|
|

In article , Aquarius says...

Could I get 100% confirmation from this newsgroup
that OE6 does not support AVG Email Scanner
and that currently MS Outlook is the only Email client
supported. Thanks a bunch. (OPsys=XPHome)

Nope. I will confirm that MSOE6 and AVG mail scanning work together just
fine.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

In article , David H. Lipman says...

Is misleading and FALSE.
The question is can it scan MAPI like in Outlook 97/98/2000/XP/2003 ?

Why don't you tell us? I can see that I have some experimentation to do.
Maybe later today. I don't normally scan email locally; all email comes to
me through Mercury Mail, and I have a virus scan policy set up in Mercury
Mail which works very well.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

AVG email scanning does indeed work in OE. Despite its name, the OE5
Plug-in must be enabled for scanning to take place.

Whether you need it or not or whether OE likes it is another topic.
--
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MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

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Aquarius wrote:
Could I get 100% confirmation from this newsgroup
that OE6 does not support AVG Email Scanner
and that currently MS Outlook is the only Email client
supported. Thanks a bunch. (OPsys=XPHome)

"Aquarius" wrote in message
...
Could I get 100% confirmation from this newsgroup
that OE6 does not support AVG Email Scanner
and that currently MS Outlook is the only Email client
supported. Thanks a bunch. (OPsys=XPHome)

AVG uses what they call a plug-in to do this and it often appears to work
fine, however on several occasions using 98SE, ME, W2000 and XP I have seen
OE refuse to start, exhibiting symptoms that look very much like OE problems
but which are cured instantly the moment the plug-in is disabled. The moral
of the story seems to be that if you choose to use the plug-in and
subsequently have OE problems make the plug-in the first place you look.

This is probably true of all AV programs but certainly can be a problem with
AVG and can lead you to do all sorts of unnecessary things before you think
of turning it off. By the way I use and recommend AVG all the time so that's
not a criticism of AVG, only a tribute to human memory (or lack of it).

FWIW I think the problem seems worsened when automatic compaction (in the
background) is turned on. I think (note I only think - don't know) that it's
possible for AVG to detect a virus during compaction and upset the
compaction routine so that the .dbx file concerned is either locked or
somehow unreadable to OE with the plug-in running. Simply stopping it fixes
the problem.

Charlie

AVG 6 does NNTP (news server), AVG 7 does not.

Neither does IMAP (The question is can it scan MAPI like in Outlook =
97/98/2000/XP/2003 ?) since OE and OL don't support downloading (saving =
locally) IMAP, you need POP3 to scan locally.

IMAP (Internet Message Access Protocol)=20
IMAP is a way to access a server and, if you like, keep your e-mail =
messages stored on the server. Using IMAP has its advantages:=20
a.. You can view just the headers of your e-mail messages and decide =
whether you want to download them. No need to download an entire spam =
message when the heading is disgusting enough.=20
b.. You can create and move folders or mailboxes, delete messages, and =
even perform a search for certain parts of a message- all on the server. =

c.. Your e-mail travels with you and is always available since it's =
not stored locally on any particular client (and I know you know what an =
e-mail client is).=20

Note You do have to be connected to the server continually while =
you're receiving or sending your e-mail, so that's one thing to =
consider.=20
MAPI (Messaging Application Programming Interface)=20
MAPI is used with Outlook in conjunction with a Microsoft Exchange =
Server mail server. MAPI is a lot like IMAP (in fact, it's an anagram of =
it), but it provides a wider array of features when you use it from =
within Outlook.=20

The 2 above (IMAP & MAPI) above are from =
http://office.microsoft.com/assistan...3DHA010779901=
033&CTT=3D1&Origin=3DEC010229981033&QueryID=3DWwv5 T2Bbz0


--=20
Just my 2=A2 worth,
Jeff
__________in response to__________
"N. Miller" wrote in message =
om...
| In article , David H. Lipman =
says...
|=20
| Is misleading and FALSE.
| The question is can it scan MAPI like in Outlook 97/98/2000/XP/2003 =
?
|=20
| Why don't you tell us? I can see that I have some experimentation to =
do.=20
| Maybe later today. I don't normally scan email locally; all email =
comes to=20
| me through Mercury Mail, and I have a virus scan policy set up in =
Mercury=20
| Mail which works very well.
|=20
| --=20
| Norman
| ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
| ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
| ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

In article , says...

AVG 6 does NNTP (news server), AVG 7 does not.

Okay; but the post only mentioned MAPI.

Neither does IMAP (The question is can it scan MAPI like in Outlook
97/98/2000/XP/2003 ?) since OE and OL don't support downloading (saving
locally) IMAP, you need POP3 to scan locally.

IMAP (Internet Message Access Protocol)
IMAP is a way to access a server and, if you like, keep your e-mail
messages stored on the server. Using IMAP has its advantages:
a.. You can view just the headers of your e-mail messages and decide
whether you want to download them. No need to download an entire spam
message when the heading is disgusting enough.
b.. You can create and move folders or mailboxes, delete messages, and
even perform a search for certain parts of a message- all on the server.
c.. Your e-mail travels with you and is always available since it's not
stored locally on any particular client (and I know you know what an
e-mail client is).

Note You do have to be connected to the server continually while
you're receiving or sending your e-mail, so that's one thing to consider.

Okay; but the post only mentioned MAPI. FWIW, I know how IMAP works. Really.
I do; I run an IMAP server here. Incidentally, the Mercury Mail Anti Virus
Policy does process the email before it puts it in the message store for the
IMAP clients to access it.

MAPI (Messaging Application Programming Interface)
MAPI is used with Outlook in conjunction with a Microsoft Exchange Server
mail server. MAPI is a lot like IMAP (in fact, it's an anagram of it),
but it provides a wider array of features when you use it from within
Outlook.

Unfortunately, I don't have a Microsoft Exchange Server, and I don't have
Microsoft Outlook. There is no way that I could test that implementation of
MAPI. The closest I come to that is the simple MAPI that lets Sam Spade push
mail output through Pegasus Mail. In that mode, Pegasus Mail runs the email
through the Mercury Mail server that I run, and the Mercury Mail server Anti
Virus Policy always kicks in when it processes messages from mail clients on
my side of the interface; or when it processes messages, either to the SMTP
server, or the from the POP3 servers.

The 2 above (IMAP & MAPI) above are from
http://office.microsoft.com/assistan...yID=Wwv5T2Bbz0

Well, I learned nothing new about IMAP. But, never having had a real
implementation of MAPI, I did learn something about that. Now, all of that
is well and good, but probably does nothing to answer the question; "...can
it (AVG6) scan MAPI like in Outlook 97/98/2000/XP/2003"?

I still don't know the answer, and I didn't get around to playing with the
computer running AVG. I seem to recall that AVG6 only works with MSOE, but
that is what I needed to do.

However, I am up for a WAG. Assuming that the interaction between Outlook
and Exchange is similar to that of Pegasus Mail and Mercury Mail, the answer
would be, "No". I know that Pegasus Mail does not hand off email to Mercury
Mail in a normal SMTP transaction; not in my LAN environment, anyway.
Rather, Pegasus Mail places the email directly in the Mercury Mail SMTP
queue for delivery. An email scanner, like AVG (which I am pretty sure does
not work with Pegasus Mail, anyway), or Norton (which does) intercepts the
SMTP transaction. But, if there is no SMTP transaction, as it the case with
Pegasus Mail to Mercury Mail, and, probably Outlook and Exchange, there is
nothing to Intercept. After all, if the mail goes from Outlook to Exchange
through MAPI, there is no SMTP involved; or so I would think.

I do recall that Norton would intercept the outbound SMTP transaction of the
Mercury Mail SMTP client (either the "End-to-End Client", or the "Relaying
Client" modules), and the "POP3 Distributing Client"; but it wasn't designed
to catch email coming from remote MTAs to the "SMTP Server" module. AVG 6
just doesn't know how to handle none MSFT mail software, anyway (Well, maybe
Eudora). But I wanted to have the SMTP in checked, so I learned how to have
Mercury Mail scan for viruses, which it does on all modules, and turned off
the Norton AV scan.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

Guys / Gals
Everthing is resolved !!!
I went to http://www.grisoft.cz/beta/avgemc/avgemc_en.htm
It solved everything and answered all questions
The help fle is wonderful and I now have AVG scanning all inbound / outbound
OE6 emails
VERY effectively.
Thanks a bunch guys / gals
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"Aquarius" wrote in message
...
Could I get 100% confirmation from this newsgroup
that OE6 does not support AVG Email Scanner
and that currently MS Outlook is the only Email client
supported. Thanks a bunch. (OPsys=XPHome)



---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.737 / Virus Database: 491 - Release Date: 11/08/2004




---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.737 / Virus Database: 491 - Release Date: 11/08/2004