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Try MiTeC OEView. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ "Larry" wrote in message ... | I haven't been following this thread but this confuses me. How did you | determine the size of it when it was 400KB? And when it was 1.24 MB? | | By seeing the size of the Inbox.dbx file in Windows Explorer. | | 2. Get any of the many programs to extract messages from .dbx files and | run | it | | I did try OE Extract and it doesn't do anything and provides no | instructions, so I guess one of the nonfreeware apps is next. | | | "dadiOH" wrote in message | ... | Larry wrote: | Strange things going on (see below), but I think the problem may be | solvable. | | 1. The Inbox, prior to the problem, would have been around 80 or 90 | MB. As I said, my procedure is to let it build up for a few weeks | and then move a lot of it into a custom folder. But after the | problem occurred, the Inbox was 130 KB. After I received e-mails | since this morning, it went up to about 400 KB. | | 2. But here's the strange thing: just now I looked again, and the | only Inbox.dbx in the OE folder has 1.24 MB!!! So somehow it's | returned. | | I haven't been following this thread but this confuses me. How did you | determine the size of it when it was 400KB? And when it was 1.24 MB? | ________________ | | 3. Yet the Inbox in the OE application is still just the e-mails | received since this morning. | | Because it is screwed up. That is, whatever methodology used to determine | messages start/end and/or count is wrong. Like a file that has its EOF in | the wrong place/ | __________________ | | This is what I'd do... | | 1. Save a copy of Inbox.dbx somewhere | | 2. Get any of the many programs to extract messages from .dbx files and | run | it | | 3. If it is successful in getting your messages, save them as MAIL ( | i.e., | *.eml - separate, discrete messages) in a folder on your desktop. | | If not successful, forget what follows. | | 4. Delete Inbox.dbx using Explorer | | 5. Open OE and display its Inbox - which should now be empty | | 6. Select all the recovered email messages in your temporary desktop | folder | and drag them to the OE pane where they would normally be displayed. | | 7. Close OE | | dadiOH | | | |
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Your only choice now is to find instructions for Macallan and run it on this
Saved Mail folder. Also remember that if you delete all messages from a folder, the size won't change until you compact, so it is possible that there is nothing in this folder to extract. If that is the case, only DBXpress run in Extract From Disk mode has a chance as it reads directly from the HDD and does not depend on the message being in the dbx file. I'm sorry I can't be more encouraging. I would say you have been very lucky up until now. You are going to have to start keeping OE neater, and back it up reguarly. When I open my Inbox, I read the mail and then either delete it or move it. The Inbox and Sent Items are the folders most likely to see corruption as they are accessed the most. Also, you had 120MB, + or - in the Inbox for what you say was about one month. That's a lot. My entire Outlook Express message store is only 231MB right now and I haven't compacted in a few days. I'll leave for now with my previous warning, but if you have any more questions, please do post back. General precautions for Outlook Express: Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible. After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while working *offline* and do it often. Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything until the compacting is completed. Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in background and leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}. And backup often. Backup & Resto http://www.insideoe.com/backup/ This is a great two click program: Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB) http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express Imperial Beach, CA "Larry" wrote in message ... Bruce, I've done all the steps. Nothing appears in the Saved Mail folder. Also, when I open Saved Mail.dbx, it's the same as befo even though the file is 1.24 MB, there are just the e-mails from yesterday. I've moved the Saved Mail.dbx back to Desktop. Until tomorrow. Many thanks for your help. Larry "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... This gets stranger by the moment and is truly unique. (Unless you are looking in message store folders for two different identities). I have never seen the size of a dbx file get small, and then large again to the extent you say. If it was me, this is what I would do. Create a new folder and move all your existing Inbox mail to it so you at least don't lose that. Close OE and in Windows Explorer, drag the Inbox.dbx file to the Desktop. Rename the Inbox.dbx file on the Desktop to Saved Mail.dbx. A new, empty Inbox will be created when you open OE. Open OE and create a folder called Saved Mail. Open the new folder and then close OE. (You must do this). Go back to Windows Explorer and expand the path to the Message Store folder for your OE identity, but don't open it. Click on the Desktop and drag the file from the Desktop in the right hand pane to the OE store folder in the left pane. Prompt - "Do you want to overwrite......."? Click Yes. Do the messages appear in the Saved Mail folder? If not, drag it back out of the message store to the Desktop for safe keeping while we figure out where to go next. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express Imperial Beach, CA "Larry" wrote in message ... Strange things going on (see below), but I think the problem may be solvable. 1. The Inbox, prior to the problem, would have been around 80 or 90 MB. As I said, my procedure is to let it build up for a few weeks and then move a lot of it into a custom folder. But after the problem occurred, the Inbox was 130 KB. After I received e-mails since this morning, it went up to about 400 KB. 2. But here's the strange thing: just now I looked again, and the only Inbox.dbx in the OE folder has 1.24 MB!!! So somehow it's returned. 3. Yet the Inbox in the OE application is still just the e-mails received since this morning. 4. When I click on a .dbx file (no matter how small), I get a message saying "this is too large to open with NOtepad. Open with Wordpad?" When I say yes, it opens in Wordpad, and the top of the file is just box characters, but if I scroll down a ways, there is e-mails, html code and so on. 5. However, if I do the same with Inbox.dbx, all it seems to show is today's handful of e-mails, rather than the vast store of e-mails from the last month. Yet the file has 1.24 MB. |
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Larry wrote:
Strange things going on (see below), but I think the problem may be solvable. 1. The Inbox, prior to the problem, would have been around 80 or 90 MB. As I said, my procedure is to let it build up for a few weeks and then move a lot of it into a custom folder. But after the problem occurred, the Inbox was 130 KB. After I received e-mails since this morning, it went up to about 400 KB. 2. But here's the strange thing: just now I looked again, and the only Inbox.dbx in the OE folder has 1.24 MB!!! So somehow it's returned. I haven't been following this thread but this confuses me. How did you determine the size of it when it was 400KB? And when it was 1.24 MB? ________________ 3. Yet the Inbox in the OE application is still just the e-mails received since this morning. Because it is screwed up. That is, whatever methodology used to determine messages start/end and/or count is wrong. Like a file that has its EOF in the wrong place/ __________________ This is what I'd do... 1. Save a copy of Inbox.dbx somewhere 2. Get any of the many programs to extract messages from .dbx files and run it 3. If it is successful in getting your messages, save them as MAIL ( i.e., *.eml - separate, discrete messages) in a folder on your desktop. If not successful, forget what follows. 4. Delete Inbox.dbx using Explorer 5. Open OE and display its Inbox - which should now be empty 6. Select all the recovered email messages in your temporary desktop folder and drag them to the OE pane where they would normally be displayed. 7. Close OE dadiOH |
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I don't understand why you can't believe that "yesterday's" email can't be
1.24 MB. Any messages with images embedded or attached? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Larry" wrote in message ... I haven't been following this thread but this confuses me. How did you determine the size of it when it was 400KB? And when it was 1.24 MB? By seeing the size of the Inbox.dbx file in Windows Explorer. 2. Get any of the many programs to extract messages from .dbx files and run it I did try OE Extract and it doesn't do anything and provides no instructions, so I guess one of the nonfreeware apps is next. "dadiOH" wrote in message ... Larry wrote: Strange things going on (see below), but I think the problem may be solvable. 1. The Inbox, prior to the problem, would have been around 80 or 90 MB. As I said, my procedure is to let it build up for a few weeks and then move a lot of it into a custom folder. But after the problem occurred, the Inbox was 130 KB. After I received e-mails since this morning, it went up to about 400 KB. 2. But here's the strange thing: just now I looked again, and the only Inbox.dbx in the OE folder has 1.24 MB!!! So somehow it's returned. I haven't been following this thread but this confuses me. How did you determine the size of it when it was 400KB? And when it was 1.24 MB? ________________ 3. Yet the Inbox in the OE application is still just the e-mails received since this morning. Because it is screwed up. That is, whatever methodology used to determine messages start/end and/or count is wrong. Like a file that has its EOF in the wrong place/ __________________ This is what I'd do... 1. Save a copy of Inbox.dbx somewhere 2. Get any of the many programs to extract messages from .dbx files and run it 3. If it is successful in getting your messages, save them as MAIL ( i.e., *.eml - separate, discrete messages) in a folder on your desktop. If not successful, forget what follows. 4. Delete Inbox.dbx using Explorer 5. Open OE and display its Inbox - which should now be empty 6. Select all the recovered email messages in your temporary desktop folder and drag them to the OE pane where they would normally be displayed. 7. Close OE dadiOH |
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And my eyeballs were wavering. I read it as 124MB. I just now got back from
having an eye exam too. VBEG -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express Imperial Beach, CA "Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message ... I don't understand why you can't believe that "yesterday's" email can't be 1.24 MB. Any messages with images embedded or attached? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Larry" wrote in message ... I haven't been following this thread but this confuses me. How did you determine the size of it when it was 400KB? And when it was 1.24 MB? By seeing the size of the Inbox.dbx file in Windows Explorer. 2. Get any of the many programs to extract messages from .dbx files and run it I did try OE Extract and it doesn't do anything and provides no instructions, so I guess one of the nonfreeware apps is next. "dadiOH" wrote in message ... Larry wrote: Strange things going on (see below), but I think the problem may be solvable. 1. The Inbox, prior to the problem, would have been around 80 or 90 MB. As I said, my procedure is to let it build up for a few weeks and then move a lot of it into a custom folder. But after the problem occurred, the Inbox was 130 KB. After I received e-mails since this morning, it went up to about 400 KB. 2. But here's the strange thing: just now I looked again, and the only Inbox.dbx in the OE folder has 1.24 MB!!! So somehow it's returned. I haven't been following this thread but this confuses me. How did you determine the size of it when it was 400KB? And when it was 1.24 MB? ________________ 3. Yet the Inbox in the OE application is still just the e-mails received since this morning. Because it is screwed up. That is, whatever methodology used to determine messages start/end and/or count is wrong. Like a file that has its EOF in the wrong place/ __________________ This is what I'd do... 1. Save a copy of Inbox.dbx somewhere 2. Get any of the many programs to extract messages from .dbx files and run it 3. If it is successful in getting your messages, save them as MAIL ( i.e., *.eml - separate, discrete messages) in a folder on your desktop. If not successful, forget what follows. 4. Delete Inbox.dbx using Explorer 5. Open OE and display its Inbox - which should now be empty 6. Select all the recovered email messages in your temporary desktop folder and drag them to the OE pane where they would normally be displayed. 7. Close OE dadiOH |
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On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:40:58 -0400, "Larry"
put finger to keyboard and composed: The way this happened was: my computer froze last night and I restarted it by pressing the external restart button on the tower, which I regularly do when the computer freezes, which happens fairly frequently (Win 98!). But there was no compacting of OE going on at the time. Did Scandisk run after the restart? Did it detect any lost clusters and offer to save them as file fragments? Are there any filennnn.chk files in the root directory? - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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Yeah, I woulda said, "Eureka!", too if I'd read it as 124!
-- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... And my eyeballs were wavering. I read it as 124MB. I just now got back from having an eye exam too. VBEG -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express Imperial Beach, CA "Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message ... I don't understand why you can't believe that "yesterday's" email can't be 1.24 MB. Any messages with images embedded or attached? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Larry" wrote in message ... I haven't been following this thread but this confuses me. How did you determine the size of it when it was 400KB? And when it was 1.24 MB? By seeing the size of the Inbox.dbx file in Windows Explorer. 2. Get any of the many programs to extract messages from .dbx files and run it I did try OE Extract and it doesn't do anything and provides no instructions, so I guess one of the nonfreeware apps is next. "dadiOH" wrote in message ... Larry wrote: Strange things going on (see below), but I think the problem may be solvable. 1. The Inbox, prior to the problem, would have been around 80 or 90 MB. As I said, my procedure is to let it build up for a few weeks and then move a lot of it into a custom folder. But after the problem occurred, the Inbox was 130 KB. After I received e-mails since this morning, it went up to about 400 KB. 2. But here's the strange thing: just now I looked again, and the only Inbox.dbx in the OE folder has 1.24 MB!!! So somehow it's returned. I haven't been following this thread but this confuses me. How did you determine the size of it when it was 400KB? And when it was 1.24 MB? ________________ 3. Yet the Inbox in the OE application is still just the e-mails received since this morning. Because it is screwed up. That is, whatever methodology used to determine messages start/end and/or count is wrong. Like a file that has its EOF in the wrong place/ __________________ This is what I'd do... 1. Save a copy of Inbox.dbx somewhere 2. Get any of the many programs to extract messages from .dbx files and run it 3. If it is successful in getting your messages, save them as MAIL ( i.e., *.eml - separate, discrete messages) in a folder on your desktop. If not successful, forget what follows. 4. Delete Inbox.dbx using Explorer 5. Open OE and display its Inbox - which should now be empty 6. Select all the recovered email messages in your temporary desktop folder and drag them to the OE pane where they would normally be displayed. 7. Close OE dadiOH |
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Try this. It's the successor to MiTec OE view. I use it and it works fine
for me. http://www.snapfiles.com/get/dbxviewer.html "Larry" wrote in message ... I haven't been following this thread but this confuses me. How did you determine the size of it when it was 400KB? And when it was 1.24 MB? By seeing the size of the Inbox.dbx file in Windows Explorer. 2. Get any of the many programs to extract messages from .dbx files and run it I did try OE Extract and it doesn't do anything and provides no instructions, so I guess one of the nonfreeware apps is next. "dadiOH" wrote in message ... Larry wrote: Strange things going on (see below), but I think the problem may be solvable. 1. The Inbox, prior to the problem, would have been around 80 or 90 MB. As I said, my procedure is to let it build up for a few weeks and then move a lot of it into a custom folder. But after the problem occurred, the Inbox was 130 KB. After I received e-mails since this morning, it went up to about 400 KB. 2. But here's the strange thing: just now I looked again, and the only Inbox.dbx in the OE folder has 1.24 MB!!! So somehow it's returned. I haven't been following this thread but this confuses me. How did you determine the size of it when it was 400KB? And when it was 1.24 MB? ________________ 3. Yet the Inbox in the OE application is still just the e-mails received since this morning. Because it is screwed up. That is, whatever methodology used to determine messages start/end and/or count is wrong. Like a file that has its EOF in the wrong place/ __________________ This is what I'd do... 1. Save a copy of Inbox.dbx somewhere 2. Get any of the many programs to extract messages from .dbx files and run it 3. If it is successful in getting your messages, save them as MAIL ( i.e., *.eml - separate, discrete messages) in a folder on your desktop. If not successful, forget what follows. 4. Delete Inbox.dbx using Explorer 5. Open OE and display its Inbox - which should now be empty 6. Select all the recovered email messages in your temporary desktop folder and drag them to the OE pane where they would normally be displayed. 7. Close OE dadiOH |
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Interesting, I find MiTeC's newest is 2007. The original site shows activity
as of 29.12.2007 with the OE Viewer updated 03-05-07. http://www.mitec.cz/oeview.html The supposed successor is Last updated Aug 16, 2006 so SnapFiles is apparently not up to date. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ "bobster" wrote in message ... | Try this. It's the successor to MiTec OE view. I use it and it works fine | for me. | | http://www.snapfiles.com/get/dbxviewer.html | | "Larry" wrote in message | ... | I haven't been following this thread but this confuses me. How did you | determine the size of it when it was 400KB? And when it was 1.24 MB? | | By seeing the size of the Inbox.dbx file in Windows Explorer. | | 2. Get any of the many programs to extract messages from .dbx files and | run | it | | I did try OE Extract and it doesn't do anything and provides no | instructions, so I guess one of the nonfreeware apps is next. | | | "dadiOH" wrote in message | ... | Larry wrote: | Strange things going on (see below), but I think the problem may be | solvable. | | 1. The Inbox, prior to the problem, would have been around 80 or 90 | MB. As I said, my procedure is to let it build up for a few weeks | and then move a lot of it into a custom folder. But after the | problem occurred, the Inbox was 130 KB. After I received e-mails | since this morning, it went up to about 400 KB. | | 2. But here's the strange thing: just now I looked again, and the | only Inbox.dbx in the OE folder has 1.24 MB!!! So somehow it's | returned. | | I haven't been following this thread but this confuses me. How did you | determine the size of it when it was 400KB? And when it was 1.24 MB? | ________________ | | 3. Yet the Inbox in the OE application is still just the e-mails | received since this morning. | | Because it is screwed up. That is, whatever methodology used to determine | messages start/end and/or count is wrong. Like a file that has its EOF in | the wrong place/ | __________________ | | This is what I'd do... | | 1. Save a copy of Inbox.dbx somewhere | | 2. Get any of the many programs to extract messages from .dbx files and | run | it | | 3. If it is successful in getting your messages, save them as MAIL ( | i.e., | *.eml - separate, discrete messages) in a folder on your desktop. | | If not successful, forget what follows. | | 4. Delete Inbox.dbx using Explorer | | 5. Open OE and display its Inbox - which should now be empty | | 6. Select all the recovered email messages in your temporary desktop | folder | and drag them to the OE pane where they would normally be displayed. | | 7. Close OE | | dadiOH | | | |
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