Calendar Question

Hello,

I have a quick question to ask of ya'll here. Am I able to send alerts
(reminders of scheduled activies on my calender) from my calender to my
mobile device. As I am usually not home except in the morning and the
evenings and do not own a laptop or a palm pilot, this would be very
convenient.

See http://www.slipstick.com/addins/pager.htm for tools to help with this.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Josh" wrote in message
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Hello,

I have a quick question to ask of ya'll here. Am I able to send alerts
(reminders of scheduled activies on my calender) from my calender to my
mobile device. As I am usually not home except in the morning and the
evenings and do not own a laptop or a palm pilot, this would be very
convenient.

I find this newsgroup terribly confusing as to the mechanics; I guess
I'm used to email listservs more than newsgroups.
Below, I've copied into this reply, several items: my original
question, Sue Mosher's "different time zone" response which I couldn't
figure out, and the response I submitted with the additional
information that appears below, under my phrase, "Sue, I'm confused by
your response." Hope my copy and paste approach doesn't do too much
duplication, but I really need to figure out the answer to this
problem.

Thanks, in advance, for your help!

Bob

Some people are using their department calendar to post if someone is
sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on one single day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else's computer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared calendar, the
appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointment lasting from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the day before
(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This in spite of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring appointment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?


Bob


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Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] Dec 22 2004, 9:28 am show options

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The two machines are set for different time zones or have different
Daylight
Savings Time settings.


--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


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Some people are using their department calendar to post if someone is
sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on one single
day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else's computer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared calendar, the
appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointment lasting
from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the day before
(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This in spite of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring appointment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?

Bob



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Sue, I'm confused by your response: "


The two machines are set for
different time zones or have different Daylight Savings Time settings


.."

I have checked and all the machines are set for the same time zone. I'm
not quite sure whether they all have different DST time settings, but I
will check; I forgot to last time I was down there.


But I'm wondering why a divergence in one of these settings would make
an appointment go from being a one-day appointment on one computer, to
being a multi-day appointment on another computer, when the appointment
is being viewed from the same calendar on both computers?


We have also discovered a related(?) problem in the same department,
today. A number of department employees have permissions to place
appointments on each other's computers. In one instance, the originator
employee entered an appointment for 8am to 1pm. Another employee viewed
that same appointment on that same calendar (from anothe computer) and
the bar on the calendar shows as a one-hour appointment at 1pm. But
when you double-click on that appointment bar, the dialog box shows it
clearly as being from 8am to 1pm. All these employees can schedule each
other's time, so they carefully block out lunch, breaks, time off, etc.
so that the system works. This same originator employee entered a 4pm
break time on her computer. The same second employee doesn't see that
4pm break time on the originator's calendar, at all. The second
employee does not have Windows XP, but pretty much everyone else does.
Could this be part of the problem. It still seems pretty bizarre, even
if that is the cause of the problem. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!

Outlook stores an all-day event as an appointment that runs from 12 a.m. to
12 a.m. So, say I'm in Eastern time zone and you're in Central. If you open
that same appointment on your machine, it won't be an all day appointment.
It will be set to start at 12 a.m. Eastern time, but since you're in Central
time, that's 11 p.m., so you'll see that appointment as spanning 2 days --
frm 11 p.m. one day to 11 p.m. the next.

So, the next step to try to resolve the issue is to check the time zone
settings and daylight savings time settings on the different client machines
involved. The easiest way to do that is to right-click the time display in
the Windows system tray and choose Adjust Date/TIme. It sounds like you've
done that, but you might want to check again now that (hopefully) you
understand the issue a little better.

This is the most common issue that fits at least some of the symptoms you
describe. Of course, you might be running into something completely
different and even previously unknown. I certainly can't explain the odd
behavior on delegated calendars.

What version of Outlook is involved?

The Google groups interface has a reply command, but you must be logged in
to use it.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Bob" wrote in message
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I find this newsgroup terribly confusing as to the mechanics; I guess
I'm used to email listservs more than newsgroups.
Below, I've copied into this reply, several items: my original
question, Sue Mosher's "different time zone" response which I couldn't
figure out, and the response I submitted with the additional
information that appears below, under my phrase, "Sue, I'm confused by
your response." Hope my copy and paste approach doesn't do too much
duplication, but I really need to figure out the answer to this
problem.

Thanks, in advance, for your help!

Bob

Some people are using their department calendar to post if someone is
sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on one single day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else's computer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared calendar, the
appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointment lasting from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the day before
(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This in spite of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring appointment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?


Bob


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The two machines are set for different time zones or have different
Daylight
Savings Time settings.


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Some people are using their department calendar to post if someone is
sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on one single
day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else's computer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared calendar, the
appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointment lasting
from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the day before
(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This in spite of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring appointment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?

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Sue, I'm confused by your response: "


The two machines are set for
different time zones or have different Daylight Savings Time setting

."

I have checked and all the machines are set for the same time zone. I'm
not quite sure whether they all have different DST time settings, but I
will check; I forgot to last time I was down there.


But I'm wondering why a divergence in one of these settings would make
an appointment go from being a one-day appointment on one computer, to
being a multi-day appointment on another computer, when the appointment
is being viewed from the same calendar on both computers?


We have also discovered a related(?) problem in the same department,
today. A number of department employees have permissions to place
appointments on each other's computers. In one instance, the originator
employee entered an appointment for 8am to 1pm. Another employee viewed
that same appointment on that same calendar (from anothe computer) and
the bar on the calendar shows as a one-hour appointment at 1pm. But
when you double-click on that appointment bar, the dialog box shows it
clearly as being from 8am to 1pm. All these employees can schedule each
other's time, so they carefully block out lunch, breaks, time off, etc.
so that the system works. This same originator employee entered a 4pm
break time on her computer. The same second employee doesn't see that
4pm break time on the originator's calendar, at all. The second
employee does not have Windows XP, but pretty much everyone else does.
Could this be part of the problem. It still seems pretty bizarre, even
if that is the cause of the problem. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!

Sue,

All of the affected computers are using Outlook 2002.

And what is the issue with them? The newsgroup interface you are using
apparently does not quote earlier messages in the thread, making your latest
message so short on detail that you risk not getting the answer you're
looking for. Please take the time to quote the original message.


--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


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Sue,

All of the affected computers are using Outlook 2002.

Sue, I'm not getting the hang of displaying the message I'm responding
to, so I just copied and pasted all of the history of my
correspondence, and the responses received, below.

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong to not display the message I'm
responding to. I had assumed it was like an email reply that the
message to which you were responding was automatically quoted, unless
you deleted some or all of it.

Hope the text below is not too confusing, but I think it is pretty
complete.

Thanks for any help you can give.

Bob

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Some people are using their department calendar to post if s=ADomeone is

sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on one=AD single
day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else's =ADcomputer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared calend=ADar, the
appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointment l=ADasting
from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the day =ADbefore
(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This in =ADspite of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring appo=ADintment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?


Bob


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The two machines are set for different time zones or have di=ADfferent
Daylight
Savings Time settings.


--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx



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Some people are using their department calendar to post if=AD someone
is
sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on o=ADne single
day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else'=ADs
computer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared cale=ADndar, the

appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointment=AD lasting
from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the da=ADy before
(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This i=ADn spite
of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring
ap=ADpointment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?

Bob



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Sue, I'm confused by your response: "


The two machines are set for
different time zones or have different Daylight Savings Time=AD settings



.."

I have checked and all the machines are set for the same tim=ADe zone.
I'm
not quite sure whether they all have different DST time sett=ADings, but
I
will check; I forgot to last time I was down there.


But I'm wondering why a divergence in one of these settings =ADwould
make
an appointment go from being a one-day appointment on one co=ADmputer,
to
being a multi-day appointment on another computer, when the
=ADappointment
is being viewed from the same calendar on both computers?


We have also discovered a related(?) problem in the same dep=ADartment,
today. A number of department employees have permissions to =ADplace
appointments on each other's computers. In one instance, the=AD
originator
employee entered an appointment for 8am to 1pm. Another empl=ADoyee
viewed
that same appointment on that same calendar (from anothe com=ADputer)
and
the bar on the calendar shows as a one-hour appointment at 1=ADpm. But
when you double-click on that appointment bar, the dialog bo=ADx shows
it
clearly as being from 8am to 1pm. All these employees can sc=ADhedule
each
other's time, so they carefully block out lunch, breaks, tim=ADe off,
etc.
so that the system works. This same originator employee ente=ADred a 4pm

break time on her computer. The same second employee doesn't=AD see that

4pm break time on the originator's calendar, at all. The sec=ADond
employee does not have Windows XP, but pretty much everyone =ADelse
does.
Could this be part of the problem. It still seems pretty biz=ADarre,
even
if that is the cause of the problem. Any help would be appre=ADciated.


Thanks!



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Bob wrote:
Some people are using their department calendar to post if=AD someone
is
sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on o=ADne single

day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else'=ADs
computer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared cale=ADndar, the

appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointment=AD lasting
from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the da=ADy before
(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This i=ADn spite
of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring
ap=ADpointment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?

Bob



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Bob wrote:

Sue, I'm confused by your response: "The two machines are =ADset for
different time zones or have different Daylight Savings Ti=ADme
settings."



Huh? I don't see any response above yours.

--
kai
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I find this newsgroup terribly confusing as to the mechanics=AD; I guess

I'm used to email listservs more than newsgroups.
Below, I've copied into this reply, several items: my origi=ADnal
question, Sue Mosher's "different time zone" response which =ADI
couldn't
figure out, and the response I submitted with the additional
information that appears below, under my phrase, "Sue, I'm c=ADonfused
by
your response." Hope my copy and paste approach doesn't do t=ADoo much
duplication, but I really need to figure out the answer to t=ADhis
problem.


Thanks, in advance, for your help!


Bob




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Some people are using their department calendar to post if s=ADomeone is

sick
or
out
on
vacation
.. When
they
post
such
an
entry
on
one
single
day
(say
January
5
, 2005
) in
Outlook
, then
go
to
someone
else's
computer
and
look
at
that
same
appointment
on
that
same
shared
calendar
, the
appointment
has
changed
: it
now
is
a
recurring
appointment
lasting
from
today
(the
day
the
appointment
was
entered
) through
the
day
before
(1
/4
/05
) the
day
for
which
they
posted
it
(1
/5
/05
)=2E This
in
spite
of
the
fact
that
it
was
clearly
not
entered
as
a
recurring
appointment
..
Any
thoughts
on
why
this
is
happening
?
Bob


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The two machines are set for different time zones or have di=ADfferent
Daylight
Savings
Time
settings
..
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
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Some people are using their department calendar to post if=AD someone
is
sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on o=ADne single

day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else'=ADs
computer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared cale=ADndar, the

appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointment=AD lasting
from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the da=ADy before
(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This i=ADn spite
of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring
ap=ADpointment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?
Bob


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Sue, I'm confused by your response: "
The two machines are set for
different time zones or have different Daylight Savings Time=AD settings

.."
I have checked and all the machines are set for the same tim=ADe zone.
I'm
not quite sure whether they all have different DST time sett=ADings, but
I
will check; I forgot to last time I was down there.
But I'm wondering why a divergence in one of these settings =ADwould
make
an appointment go from being a one-day appointment on one co=ADmputer,
to
being a multi-day appointment on another computer, when the
=ADappointment
is being viewed from the same calendar on both computers?
We have also discovered a related(?) problem in the same dep=ADartment,
today. A number of department employees have permissions to =ADplace
appointments on each other's computers. In one instance, the=AD
originator
employee entered an appointment for 8am to 1pm. Another empl=ADoyee
viewed
that same appointment on that same calendar (from anothe com=ADputer)
and
the bar on the calendar shows as a one-hour appointment at 1=ADpm. But
when you double-click on that appointment bar, the dialog bo=ADx shows
it
clearly as being from 8am to 1pm. All these employees can sc=ADhedule
each
other's time, so they carefully block out lunch, breaks, tim=ADe off,
etc.
so that the system works. This same originator employee ente=ADred a 4pm

break time on her computer. The same second employee doesn't=AD see that

4pm break time on the originator's calendar, at all. The sec=ADond
employee does not have Windows XP, but pretty much everyone =ADelse
does.
Could this be part of the problem. It still seems pretty biz=ADarre,
even
if that is the cause of the problem. Any help would be appre=ADciated.
Thanks


!

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Outlook stores an all-day event as an appointment that runs =ADfrom 12
a=2Em. to
12 a.m. So, say I'm in Eastern time zone and you're in Centr=ADal. If
you open
that same appointment on your machine, it won't be an all da=ADy
appointment.
It will be set to start at 12 a.m. Eastern time, but since y=ADou're in
Central
time, that's 11 p.m., so you'll see that appointment as span=ADning 2
days --
frm 11 p.m. one day to 11 p.m. the next.


So, the next step to try to resolve the issue is to check th=ADe time
zone
settings and daylight savings time settings on the different=AD client
machines
involved. The easiest way to do that is to right-click the t=ADime
display in
the Windows system tray and choose Adjust Date/TIme. It soun=ADds like
you've
done that, but you might want to check again now that (hopef=ADully) you

understand the issue a little better.


This is the most common issue that fits at least some of the=AD symptoms
you
describe. Of course, you might be running into something com=ADpletely
different and even previously unknown. I certainly can't exp=ADlain the
odd
behavior on delegated calendars.


What version of Outlook is involved?


The Google groups interface has a reply command, but you mus=ADt be
logged in
to use it.
--



Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
"Bob" wrote in message
news


. com...


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I find this newsgroup terribly confusing as to the mechanic=ADs; I
guess
I'm used to email listservs more than newsgroups.
Below, I've copied into this reply, several items: my ori=ADginal
question, Sue Mosher's "different time zone" response whic=ADh I
couldn't
figure out, and the response I submitted with the addition=ADal
information that appears below, under my phrase, "Sue, I'm=AD confused
by
your response." Hope my copy and paste approach doesn't do=AD too much

duplication, but I really need to figure out the answer to=AD this
problem.

Thanks, in advance, for your help!


Bob


Some people are using their department calendar to post if=AD someone
is
sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on o=ADne single
day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else'=ADs
computer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared cale=ADndar, the

appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointment=AD lasting
from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the da=ADy before
(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This i=ADn spite
of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring
ap=ADpointment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?


Bob


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The two machines are set for different time zones or have =ADdifferent

Daylight
Savings Time settings.


"Bob" wrote in message
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Some people are using their department calendar to post i=ADf someone
is
sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on =ADone
single
day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else=AD's
computer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared cal=ADendar,
the
appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointmen=ADt lasting

from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the d=ADay before

(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This =ADin spite
of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring
a=ADppointment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?


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Sue, I'm confused by your response: "


The two machines are set for
different time zones or have different Daylight Savings Ti=ADme
setting


."


I have checked and all the machines are set for the same t=ADime zone.
I'm
not quite sure whether they all have different DST time se=ADttings,
but I
will check; I forgot to last time I was down there.


But I'm wondering why a divergence in one of these setting=ADs would
make
an appointment go from being a one-day appointment on one =ADcomputer,
to
being a multi-day appointment on another computer, when th=ADe
appointment
is being viewed from the same calendar on both computers?


We have also discovered a related(?) problem in the same
d=ADepartment,
today. A number of department employees have permissions t=ADo place
appointments on each other's computers. In one instance, t=ADhe
originator
employee entered an appointment for 8am to 1pm. Another em=ADployee
viewed
that same appointment on that same calendar (from anothe c=ADomputer)
and
the bar on the calendar shows as a one-hour appointment at=AD 1pm. But

when you double-click on that appointment bar, the dialog =ADbox shows
it
clearly as being from 8am to 1pm. All these employees can =ADschedule
each
other's time, so they carefully block out lunch, breaks, t=ADime off,
etc.
so that the system works. This same originator employee en=ADtered a
4pm
break time on her computer. The same second employee doesn=AD't see
that
4pm break time on the originator's calendar, at all. The s=ADecond
employee does not have Windows XP, but pretty much everyon=ADe else
does.
Could this be part of the problem. It still seems pretty b=ADizarre,
even
if that is the cause of the problem. Any help would be app=ADreciated.

Thanks!



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Sue,


All of the affected computers are using Outlook 2002.


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And what is the issue with them? The newsgroup interface you=AD are
using
apparently does not quote earlier messages in the thread, ma=ADking your
latest
message so short on detail that you risk not getting the ans=ADwer
you're
looking for. Please take the time to quote the original mess=ADage.


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All of the affected computers are using Outlook 2002.
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I believe I'm having similar issues. one of the secretaries has access to the
bosses calendar. on his calendar it shows a 1 hour meeting, on hers it shows
up on the day she typed in the entry in until its over, which is very
confusing. especially if she types it in a week or two in advance. we also
run Outlook 2002, on XP machines.

"Bob" wrote:

Sue, I'm not getting the hang of displaying the message I'm responding
to, so I just copied and pasted all of the history of my
correspondence, and the responses received, below.

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong to not display the message I'm
responding to. I had assumed it was like an email reply that the
message to which you were responding was automatically quoted, unless
you deleted some or all of it.

Hope the text below is not too confusing, but I think it is pretty
complete.

Thanks for any help you can give.

Bob

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Some people are using their department calendar to post if sÂ*omeone is

sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on oneÂ* single
day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else's Â*computer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared calendÂ*ar, the
appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointment lÂ*asting
from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the day Â*before
(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This in Â*spite of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring appoÂ*intment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?


Bob


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The two machines are set for different time zones or have diÂ*fferent
Daylight
Savings Time settings.


--
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Author of
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Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
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Some people are using their department calendar to post ifÂ* someone
is
sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on oÂ*ne single
day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else'Â*s
computer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared caleÂ*ndar, the

appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointmentÂ* lasting
from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the daÂ*y before
(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This iÂ*n spite
of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring
apÂ*pointment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?

Bob



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Sue, I'm confused by your response: "


The two machines are set for
different time zones or have different Daylight Savings TimeÂ* settings



.."

I have checked and all the machines are set for the same timÂ*e zone.
I'm
not quite sure whether they all have different DST time settÂ*ings, but
I
will check; I forgot to last time I was down there.


But I'm wondering why a divergence in one of these settings Â*would
make
an appointment go from being a one-day appointment on one coÂ*mputer,
to
being a multi-day appointment on another computer, when the
Â*appointment
is being viewed from the same calendar on both computers?


We have also discovered a related(?) problem in the same depÂ*artment,
today. A number of department employees have permissions to Â*place
appointments on each other's computers. In one instance, theÂ*
originator
employee entered an appointment for 8am to 1pm. Another emplÂ*oyee
viewed
that same appointment on that same calendar (from anothe comÂ*puter)
and
the bar on the calendar shows as a one-hour appointment at 1Â*pm. But
when you double-click on that appointment bar, the dialog boÂ*x shows
it
clearly as being from 8am to 1pm. All these employees can scÂ*hedule
each
other's time, so they carefully block out lunch, breaks, timÂ*e off,
etc.
so that the system works. This same originator employee enteÂ*red a 4pm

break time on her computer. The same second employee doesn'tÂ* see that

4pm break time on the originator's calendar, at all. The secÂ*ond
employee does not have Windows XP, but pretty much everyone Â*else
does.
Could this be part of the problem. It still seems pretty bizÂ*arre,
even
if that is the cause of the problem. Any help would be appreÂ*ciated.


Thanks!



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Bob wrote:
Some people are using their department calendar to post ifÂ* someone
is
sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on oÂ*ne single

day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else'Â*s
computer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared caleÂ*ndar, the

appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointmentÂ* lasting
from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the daÂ*y before
(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This iÂ*n spite
of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring
apÂ*pointment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?

Bob



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Bob wrote:

Sue, I'm confused by your response: "The two machines are Â*set for
different time zones or have different Daylight Savings TiÂ*me
settings."



Huh? I don't see any response above yours.

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I find this newsgroup terribly confusing as to the mechanicsÂ*; I guess

I'm used to email listservs more than newsgroups.
Below, I've copied into this reply, several items: my origiÂ*nal
question, Sue Mosher's "different time zone" response which Â*I
couldn't
figure out, and the response I submitted with the additional
information that appears below, under my phrase, "Sue, I'm cÂ*onfused
by
your response." Hope my copy and paste approach doesn't do tÂ*oo much
duplication, but I really need to figure out the answer to tÂ*his
problem.


Thanks, in advance, for your help!


Bob




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Some people are using their department calendar to post if sÂ*omeone is

sick
or
out
on
vacation
.. When
they
post
such
an
entry
on
one
single
day
(say
January
5
, 2005
) in
Outlook
, then
go
to
someone
else's
computer
and
look
at
that
same
appointment
on
that
same
shared
calendar
, the
appointment
has
changed
: it
now
is
a
recurring
appointment
lasting
from
today
(the
day
the
appointment
was
entered
) through
the
day
before
(1
/4
/05
) the
day
for
which
they
posted
it
(1
/5
/05
). This
in
spite
of
the
fact
that
it
was
clearly
not
entered
as
a
recurring
appointment
..
Any
thoughts
on
why
this
is
happening
?
Bob


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The two machines are set for different time zones or have diÂ*fferent
Daylight
Savings
Time
settings
..
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
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Some people are using their department calendar to post ifÂ* someone
is
sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on oÂ*ne single

day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else'Â*s
computer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared caleÂ*ndar, the

appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointmentÂ* lasting
from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the daÂ*y before
(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This iÂ*n spite
of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring
apÂ*pointment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?
Bob


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Sue, I'm confused by your response: "
The two machines are set for
different time zones or have different Daylight Savings TimeÂ* settings

.."
I have checked and all the machines are set for the same timÂ*e zone.
I'm
not quite sure whether they all have different DST time settÂ*ings, but
I
will check; I forgot to last time I was down there.
But I'm wondering why a divergence in one of these settings Â*would
make
an appointment go from being a one-day appointment on one coÂ*mputer,
to
being a multi-day appointment on another computer, when the
Â*appointment
is being viewed from the same calendar on both computers?
We have also discovered a related(?) problem in the same depÂ*artment,
today. A number of department employees have permissions to Â*place
appointments on each other's computers. In one instance, theÂ*
originator
employee entered an appointment for 8am to 1pm. Another emplÂ*oyee
viewed
that same appointment on that same calendar (from anothe comÂ*puter)
and
the bar on the calendar shows as a one-hour appointment at 1Â*pm. But
when you double-click on that appointment bar, the dialog boÂ*x shows
it
clearly as being from 8am to 1pm. All these employees can scÂ*hedule
each
other's time, so they carefully block out lunch, breaks, timÂ*e off,
etc.
so that the system works. This same originator employee enteÂ*red a 4pm

break time on her computer. The same second employee doesn'tÂ* see that

4pm break time on the originator's calendar, at all. The secÂ*ond
employee does not have Windows XP, but pretty much everyone Â*else
does.
Could this be part of the problem. It still seems pretty bizÂ*arre,
even
if that is the cause of the problem. Any help would be appreÂ*ciated.
Thanks


!

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Outlook stores an all-day event as an appointment that runs Â*from 12
a.m. to
12 a.m. So, say I'm in Eastern time zone and you're in CentrÂ*al. If
you open
that same appointment on your machine, it won't be an all daÂ*y
appointment.
It will be set to start at 12 a.m. Eastern time, but since yÂ*ou're in
Central
time, that's 11 p.m., so you'll see that appointment as spanÂ*ning 2
days --
frm 11 p.m. one day to 11 p.m. the next.


So, the next step to try to resolve the issue is to check thÂ*e time
zone
settings and daylight savings time settings on the differentÂ* client
machines
involved. The easiest way to do that is to right-click the tÂ*ime
display in
the Windows system tray and choose Adjust Date/TIme. It sounÂ*ds like
you've
done that, but you might want to check again now that (hopefÂ*ully) you

understand the issue a little better.


This is the most common issue that fits at least some of theÂ* symptoms
you
describe. Of course, you might be running into something comÂ*pletely
different and even previously unknown. I certainly can't expÂ*lain the
odd
behavior on delegated calendars.


What version of Outlook is involved?


The Google groups interface has a reply command, but you musÂ*t be
logged in
to use it.
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I find this newsgroup terribly confusing as to the mechanicÂ*s; I
guess
I'm used to email listservs more than newsgroups.
Below, I've copied into this reply, several items: my oriÂ*ginal
question, Sue Mosher's "different time zone" response whicÂ*h I
couldn't
figure out, and the response I submitted with the additionÂ*al
information that appears below, under my phrase, "Sue, I'mÂ* confused
by
your response." Hope my copy and paste approach doesn't doÂ* too much

duplication, but I really need to figure out the answer toÂ* this
problem.

Thanks, in advance, for your help!


Bob


Some people are using their department calendar to post ifÂ* someone
is
sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on oÂ*ne single
day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else'Â*s
computer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared caleÂ*ndar, the

appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointmentÂ* lasting
from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the daÂ*y before
(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This iÂ*n spite
of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring
apÂ*pointment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?


Bob


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The two machines are set for different time zones or have Â*different

Daylight
Savings Time settings.


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Some people are using their department calendar to post iÂ*f someone
is
sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on Â*one
single
day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone elseÂ*'s
computer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared calÂ*endar,
the
appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointmenÂ*t lasting

from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the dÂ*ay before

(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This Â*in spite
of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring
aÂ*ppointment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?


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Sue, I'm confused by your response: "


The two machines are set for
different time zones or have different Daylight Savings TiÂ*me
setting


."


I have checked and all the machines are set for the same tÂ*ime zone.
I'm
not quite sure whether they all have different DST time seÂ*ttings,
but I
will check; I forgot to last time I was down there.


But I'm wondering why a divergence in one of these settingÂ*s would
make
an appointment go from being a one-day appointment on one Â*computer,
to
being a multi-day appointment on another computer, when thÂ*e
appointment
is being viewed from the same calendar on both computers?


We have also discovered a related(?) problem in the same
dÂ*epartment,
today. A number of department employees have permissions tÂ*o place
appointments on each other's computers. In one instance, tÂ*he
originator
employee entered an appointment for 8am to 1pm. Another emÂ*ployee
viewed
that same appointment on that same calendar (from anothe cÂ*omputer)
and
the bar on the calendar shows as a one-hour appointment atÂ* 1pm. But

when you double-click on that appointment bar, the dialog Â*box shows
it
clearly as being from 8am to 1pm. All these employees can Â*schedule
each
other's time, so they carefully block out lunch, breaks, tÂ*ime off,
etc.
so that the system works. This same originator employee enÂ*tered a
4pm
break time on her computer. The same second employee doesnÂ*'t see
that
4pm break time on the originator's calendar, at all. The sÂ*econd
employee does not have Windows XP, but pretty much everyonÂ*e else
does.
Could this be part of the problem. It still seems pretty bÂ*izarre,
even
if that is the cause of the problem. Any help would be appÂ*reciated.

Thanks!



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Sue,


All of the affected computers are using Outlook 2002.


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And what is the issue with them? The newsgroup interface youÂ* are
using
apparently does not quote earlier messages in the thread, maÂ*king your
latest
message so short on detail that you risk not getting the ansÂ*wer
you're
looking for. Please take the time to quote the original messÂ*age.


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All of the affected computers are using Outlook 2002.
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