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  #11  
Old August 17th, 2004, 04:02 PM
Greg
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I just tried to answer the question asked :-)


-----Original Message-----
The OP is the final arbiter, but I would be very

surprised if his document
is only three pages long.

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"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
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Suzanne,

I disagree. While it is clearly not a viable solution

for the larger
problem you identified, it is a crude solution for the

problem at hand
(i.e., the OP wants text to flow from something (humor

me and call it a
page), to something else (call it a page too) on the

other side of a full
page graphic without messing with the graphic. Adapt,

improvise, and
overcome. :-)



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Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Well, yes, you could do this using text boxes on all

three pages, but
if you consider that "page 1" and "page 3" are really

just shorthand
for "page before the full-page graphic" and "page

after the full-page
graphic" and that the text in question might actually

be hundreds of
pages long, with numerous full-page graphics (whereas

Word limits the
number of linked text boxes to 32 *and* severely

limits formatting
inside text boxes), I think you'll see this is not

really a viable
solution.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in

message
...
Suzanne,

I will have to try this again when I have time. I

used three margin
sized text boxes in three sections anchored to a 1pt

empty space, I
linked the first to the third and formatted them

with no fill or
borders (they looked like a blank page), the second

I left with fill
and borders. I am pretty sure that as I typed in

the first TB it
spilled over and filled the third leaving the second

on page 2
unaffected. I could be wrong.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
This doesn't help, Greg. You can anchor a text box

just as well to
an empty paragraph, but the problem is that this

paragraph will
interrupt the text flow. There is no way to have a

full-page wrapped
graphic--that is, one that text on the previous and

next pages can
flow back and forth around.


"Greg" wrote

in message
...
This is crude, but perhaps you could put a 1 point

period
on each page, anchor 3 full page textboxes (one to

each
period), create a link from textbox 1 to text box

3,
format textbox 1 and 3 with no fill or border.


-----Original Message-----
I did not know this, thank you. Would you have any
suggestion on how to
achieve what I wish to do? This should possible

with Word.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

A text box is a drawing object. Objects in the

drawing
layer must be
anchored to text in the text layer. You cannot

have a
text box on a page
with no text. Period.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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http://word.mvps.org
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"fw76" wrote in

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...
Dear all
I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full

of text.between
them I'd like to put a page full with several

pictures . I would
like this text box to be as big as the area

between my margins
so that no text
from the 2 mentioned
pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this

text
box to stay in place,
actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2

pages full of text
to be placed in page 1 and 3. I would like the

text to float
nicely between page 1 and 3 without any break

of any kind.
results: Due to the size, the text box moves

although
I said it shouldn't
(do not move with text). If I manage to make

the text box stay
at the right place, a line of my text from the

2 text pages
typically hides behind my text box although i

did not allow
overlap.
Do you have a solution to this?
by advance, Thanks.


.




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  #12  
Old August 17th, 2004, 05:23 PM
Chad DeMeyer
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Although it requires unorthodox use of advanced Word functionality, there is
actually a way to do this, contrary to conventional wisdom. I gleaned this
from a post by MVP Graham Mayor in microsoft.public.word.drawing.graphics.

"A slightly unusual suggestion will do the job.
Open the header view and place your image on the page with a wrapping option
set (not in-line) as appropriate where you require it to appear. Select the
image and save as an autotext entry. Delete the image.
Whilst still in the header area enter the following field
{IF {Page} = 2 {Autotext name}}
(insert the autotext at the appropriate point with the autotext tool from
the header toolbar.) Toggle the field display and the image will
'disappear'.
Close the header. The image will only appear on the second page at the point
you placed it.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP"


"fw76" wrote in message
...
Dear all
I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between them I'd

like
to put a page full with several pictures . I would like this text box to

be
as big as the area between my margins so that no text from the 2 mentioned
pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text box to stay in place,
actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text to be

placed
in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float nicely between page 1 and

3
without any break of any kind.
results: Due to the size, the text box moves although I said it shouldn't
(do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at the

right
place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages typically hides behind my

text
box although i did not allow overlap.
Do you have a solution to this?
by advance, Thanks.



  #13  
Old August 17th, 2004, 06:17 PM
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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But text still won't wrap around it, will it? That is, will this image cause
text to quit on the previous page and restart on the following page?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Chad DeMeyer" cjdemeye at bechtel dot com wrote in message
...
Although it requires unorthodox use of advanced Word functionality, there

is
actually a way to do this, contrary to conventional wisdom. I gleaned

this
from a post by MVP Graham Mayor in microsoft.public.word.drawing.graphics.

"A slightly unusual suggestion will do the job.
Open the header view and place your image on the page with a wrapping

option
set (not in-line) as appropriate where you require it to appear. Select

the
image and save as an autotext entry. Delete the image.
Whilst still in the header area enter the following field
{IF {Page} = 2 {Autotext name}}
(insert the autotext at the appropriate point with the autotext tool from
the header toolbar.) Toggle the field display and the image will
'disappear'.
Close the header. The image will only appear on the second page at the

point
you placed it.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP"


"fw76" wrote in message
...
Dear all
I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between them I'd

like
to put a page full with several pictures . I would like this text box to

be
as big as the area between my margins so that no text from the 2

mentioned
pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text box to stay in

place,
actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text to be

placed
in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float nicely between page 1

and
3
without any break of any kind.
results: Due to the size, the text box moves although I said it

shouldn't
(do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at the

right
place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages typically hides behind my

text
box although i did not allow overlap.
Do you have a solution to this?
by advance, Thanks.




  #14  
Old August 17th, 2004, 07:34 PM
Chad DeMeyer
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Suzanne,

It looked good on paper, but when I tested it crashed Word when trying to
scroll through the document.
Also, even if the image was sized to fill the whole page with wrapping set
to Square or Top and Bottom, Word still insisted on running one line of text
behind the image on page 2. So I guess in point of fact it doesn't work.

Regards,
Chad


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
But text still won't wrap around it, will it? That is, will this image

cause
text to quit on the previous page and restart on the following page?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup

so
all may benefit.

"Chad DeMeyer" cjdemeye at bechtel dot com wrote in message
...
Although it requires unorthodox use of advanced Word functionality,

there
is
actually a way to do this, contrary to conventional wisdom. I gleaned

this
from a post by MVP Graham Mayor in

microsoft.public.word.drawing.graphics.

"A slightly unusual suggestion will do the job.
Open the header view and place your image on the page with a wrapping

option
set (not in-line) as appropriate where you require it to appear. Select

the
image and save as an autotext entry. Delete the image.
Whilst still in the header area enter the following field
{IF {Page} = 2 {Autotext name}}
(insert the autotext at the appropriate point with the autotext tool

from
the header toolbar.) Toggle the field display and the image will
'disappear'.
Close the header. The image will only appear on the second page at the

point
you placed it.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP"


"fw76" wrote in message
...
Dear all
I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between them I'd

like
to put a page full with several pictures . I would like this text box

to
be
as big as the area between my margins so that no text from the 2

mentioned
pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text box to stay in

place,
actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text to be

placed
in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float nicely between page 1

and
3
without any break of any kind.
results: Due to the size, the text box moves although I said it

shouldn't
(do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at the

right
place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages typically hides behind

my
text
box although i did not allow overlap.
Do you have a solution to this?
by advance, Thanks.






  #15  
Old August 17th, 2004, 09:25 PM
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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As I expected. g

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Chad DeMeyer" cjdemeye at bechtel dot com wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

It looked good on paper, but when I tested it crashed Word when trying to
scroll through the document.
Also, even if the image was sized to fill the whole page with wrapping set
to Square or Top and Bottom, Word still insisted on running one line of

text
behind the image on page 2. So I guess in point of fact it doesn't work.

Regards,
Chad


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
But text still won't wrap around it, will it? That is, will this image

cause
text to quit on the previous page and restart on the following page?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Chad DeMeyer" cjdemeye at bechtel dot com wrote in message
...
Although it requires unorthodox use of advanced Word functionality,

there
is
actually a way to do this, contrary to conventional wisdom. I gleaned

this
from a post by MVP Graham Mayor in

microsoft.public.word.drawing.graphics.

"A slightly unusual suggestion will do the job.
Open the header view and place your image on the page with a wrapping

option
set (not in-line) as appropriate where you require it to appear.

Select
the
image and save as an autotext entry. Delete the image.
Whilst still in the header area enter the following field
{IF {Page} = 2 {Autotext name}}
(insert the autotext at the appropriate point with the autotext tool

from
the header toolbar.) Toggle the field display and the image will
'disappear'.
Close the header. The image will only appear on the second page at the

point
you placed it.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP"


"fw76" wrote in message
...
Dear all
I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between them

I'd
like
to put a page full with several pictures . I would like this text

box
to
be
as big as the area between my margins so that no text from the 2

mentioned
pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text box to stay in

place,
actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text to

be
placed
in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float nicely between page

1
and
3
without any break of any kind.
results: Due to the size, the text box moves although I said it

shouldn't
(do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at

the
right
place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages typically hides

behind
my
text
box although i did not allow overlap.
Do you have a solution to this?
by advance, Thanks.






  #16  
Old October 18th, 2004, 10:05 PM
SCSC
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I have the same formatting desire and have been struggling with it all
morning. The only solution I've found is to use STAROFFICE which does
exactly what we're talking about here, according to my co-worker who just
tried it out.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

A text box is a drawing object. Objects in the drawing layer must be
anchored to text in the text layer. You cannot have a text box on a page
with no text. Period.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"fw76" wrote in message
...
Dear all
I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between them I'd

like
to put a page full with several pictures . I would like this text box to

be
as big as the area between my margins so that no text from the 2 mentioned
pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text box to stay in place,
actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text to be

placed
in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float nicely between page 1 and

3
without any break of any kind.
results: Due to the size, the text box moves although I said it shouldn't
(do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at the

right
place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages typically hides behind my

text
box although i did not allow overlap.
Do you have a solution to this?
by advance, Thanks.



  #17  
Old October 18th, 2004, 11:45 PM
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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I answered a similar question in word.tables this morning and have provided
a similar (but much less detailed) solution to you in response to your
previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"SCSC" wrote in message
...
I have the same formatting desire and have been struggling with it all
morning. The only solution I've found is to use STAROFFICE which does
exactly what we're talking about here, according to my co-worker who just
tried it out.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

A text box is a drawing object. Objects in the drawing layer must be
anchored to text in the text layer. You cannot have a text box on a page
with no text. Period.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"fw76" wrote in message
...
Dear all
I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between them I'd

like
to put a page full with several pictures . I would like this text box

to
be
as big as the area between my margins so that no text from the 2

mentioned
pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text box to stay in

place,
actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text to be

placed
in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float nicely between page 1

and
3
without any break of any kind.
results: Due to the size, the text box moves although I said it

shouldn't
(do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at the

right
place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages typically hides behind

my
text
box although i did not allow overlap.
Do you have a solution to this?
by advance, Thanks.




 




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