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Cable plug ends and connectors
I recently purchased Visio 2003 Professional and am very displeased that it
is missing shapes for the various plugs and connectors for everyday typical devices, especially computer devices. I was hoping to find shapes showing the plug end view with the pin outs and maybe side or angled profile views for; USB, Firewire, S-Video, VIVO, Composite, RCA, RJ11, RJ45, Parallel Port, Coaxial, maybe foreign plugs/jacks/wall outlets, etc... I know there are millions of connectors out there and Visio can't include them all, but I feel this is a little hole that shouldn't exist for the common connectors mentioned, especially for computer-based plugs/connectors, being that the product includes shapes already, to tie these connectors directly in to. (Networking Shapes) |
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MS decided that the cost of supplying all of those was more than the revenue
that came back. John Marshall has a list of third party sites on his page at www.mvps.org/visio You can also check our friends over at Siemons http://www.siemon.com/us/download/visio.asp#visio or Netzoom www.netzoom.com Al "Kirk" wrote in message ... I recently purchased Visio 2003 Professional and am very displeased that it is missing shapes for the various plugs and connectors for everyday typical devices, especially computer devices. I was hoping to find shapes showing the plug end view with the pin outs and maybe side or angled profile views for; USB, Firewire, S-Video, VIVO, Composite, RCA, RJ11, RJ45, Parallel Port, Coaxial, maybe foreign plugs/jacks/wall outlets, etc... I know there are millions of connectors out there and Visio can't include them all, but I feel this is a little hole that shouldn't exist for the common connectors mentioned, especially for computer-based plugs/connectors, being that the product includes shapes already, to tie these connectors directly in to. (Networking Shapes) |
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Thanks Al,
Appreciate the pointers. I've unfortunately already browsed to them without finding anything regarding connectors. Even more disappointing while doing that search however, was in finding out that since Visio was absorbed by Microsoft that Visio has actually lost pre-existing shapes and templates. My first thoughts when I hear about "Time invested to create shapes" vs "Returned revenue" vs ..., a .. Most important, I have an application in front of me today, Visio 2003, that fails to provide the basic shapes I need, today, to do my job. .. What revenue will exist if the product doesn't provide basic shapes for currently existing shapes to blend them into? $499 US is certainly not a basic price. .. Maybe these shapes and others people are looking for don't exist so that I/we can pay another $499 US or $249 US(upgrade) for Visio 200x? Those coy methods of making money for a money hungry world. Knowing all of this, I have Visio 2003 sitting here doing nothing, since it doesn't provide the basic tools for me to do my job. To save time, I am creating my own diagrams by hand using art-based utilities. Very discouraged, Kirk "Al Edlund" wrote: MS decided that the cost of supplying all of those was more than the revenue that came back. John Marshall has a list of third party sites on his page at www.mvps.org/visio You can also check our friends over at Siemons http://www.siemon.com/us/download/visio.asp#visio or Netzoom www.netzoom.com Al "Kirk" wrote in message ... I recently purchased Visio 2003 Professional and am very displeased that it is missing shapes for the various plugs and connectors for everyday typical devices, especially computer devices. I was hoping to find shapes showing the plug end view with the pin outs and maybe side or angled profile views for; USB, Firewire, S-Video, VIVO, Composite, RCA, RJ11, RJ45, Parallel Port, Coaxial, maybe foreign plugs/jacks/wall outlets, etc... I know there are millions of connectors out there and Visio can't include them all, but I feel this is a little hole that shouldn't exist for the common connectors mentioned, especially for computer-based plugs/connectors, being that the product includes shapes already, to tie these connectors directly in to. (Networking Shapes) |
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One thing you may be overlooking is that you can create your own shapes. You
can create them from scratch, use clip art or photos. I have seen some of the shapes you ask for, but they have been part of other stencils and I can not seem to find them. John... Visio MVP Need stencils or ideas? http://www.mvps.org/visio/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://www.mvps.org/visio/VBA.htm Common Visio Questions http://www.mvps.org/visio/common_questions.htm "Kirk" wrote in message ... Thanks Al, Appreciate the pointers. I've unfortunately already browsed to them without finding anything regarding connectors. Even more disappointing while doing that search however, was in finding out that since Visio was absorbed by Microsoft that Visio has actually lost pre-existing shapes and templates. My first thoughts when I hear about "Time invested to create shapes" vs "Returned revenue" vs ..., a . Most important, I have an application in front of me today, Visio 2003, that fails to provide the basic shapes I need, today, to do my job. . What revenue will exist if the product doesn't provide basic shapes for currently existing shapes to blend them into? $499 US is certainly not a basic price. . Maybe these shapes and others people are looking for don't exist so that I/we can pay another $499 US or $249 US(upgrade) for Visio 200x? Those coy methods of making money for a money hungry world. Knowing all of this, I have Visio 2003 sitting here doing nothing, since it doesn't provide the basic tools for me to do my job. To save time, I am creating my own diagrams by hand using art-based utilities. Very discouraged, Kirk "Al Edlund" wrote: MS decided that the cost of supplying all of those was more than the revenue that came back. John Marshall has a list of third party sites on his page at www.mvps.org/visio You can also check our friends over at Siemons http://www.siemon.com/us/download/visio.asp#visio or Netzoom www.netzoom.com Al "Kirk" wrote in message ... I recently purchased Visio 2003 Professional and am very displeased that it is missing shapes for the various plugs and connectors for everyday typical devices, especially computer devices. I was hoping to find shapes showing the plug end view with the pin outs and maybe side or angled profile views for; USB, Firewire, S-Video, VIVO, Composite, RCA, RJ11, RJ45, Parallel Port, Coaxial, maybe foreign plugs/jacks/wall outlets, etc... I know there are millions of connectors out there and Visio can't include them all, but I feel this is a little hole that shouldn't exist for the common connectors mentioned, especially for computer-based plugs/connectors, being that the product includes shapes already, to tie these connectors directly in to. (Networking Shapes) |
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Thanks John,
I did know about Visio's ability to edit existing shapes, create new ones, and include clip art. The process of editing existing shapes, creating new ones or making clip art to blend in with existing visio shapes proved to be a great waste of time or beyond my artistic talents. I had hopes my money would have alleviated my shortcomings as an artist and would provide basic usefulness to accelerate my given talents. I have spent too much time searching for the shapes I was looking for and lost enough revenue to continue searching. I have in addition finished creating my own drawing using 3rd party drawing tools that made life alot easier overall. A big lesson learned and a very unrecommendable product due to its shortcomings. Diagraming shouldn't be this painful. Kirk "John Marshall, MVP" wrote: One thing you may be overlooking is that you can create your own shapes. You can create them from scratch, use clip art or photos. I have seen some of the shapes you ask for, but they have been part of other stencils and I can not seem to find them. John... Visio MVP Need stencils or ideas? http://www.mvps.org/visio/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://www.mvps.org/visio/VBA.htm Common Visio Questions http://www.mvps.org/visio/common_questions.htm "Kirk" wrote in message ... Thanks Al, Appreciate the pointers. I've unfortunately already browsed to them without finding anything regarding connectors. Even more disappointing while doing that search however, was in finding out that since Visio was absorbed by Microsoft that Visio has actually lost pre-existing shapes and templates. My first thoughts when I hear about "Time invested to create shapes" vs "Returned revenue" vs ..., a . Most important, I have an application in front of me today, Visio 2003, that fails to provide the basic shapes I need, today, to do my job. . What revenue will exist if the product doesn't provide basic shapes for currently existing shapes to blend them into? $499 US is certainly not a basic price. . Maybe these shapes and others people are looking for don't exist so that I/we can pay another $499 US or $249 US(upgrade) for Visio 200x? Those coy methods of making money for a money hungry world. Knowing all of this, I have Visio 2003 sitting here doing nothing, since it doesn't provide the basic tools for me to do my job. To save time, I am creating my own diagrams by hand using art-based utilities. Very discouraged, Kirk "Al Edlund" wrote: MS decided that the cost of supplying all of those was more than the revenue that came back. John Marshall has a list of third party sites on his page at www.mvps.org/visio You can also check our friends over at Siemons http://www.siemon.com/us/download/visio.asp#visio or Netzoom www.netzoom.com Al "Kirk" wrote in message ... I recently purchased Visio 2003 Professional and am very displeased that it is missing shapes for the various plugs and connectors for everyday typical devices, especially computer devices. I was hoping to find shapes showing the plug end view with the pin outs and maybe side or angled profile views for; USB, Firewire, S-Video, VIVO, Composite, RCA, RJ11, RJ45, Parallel Port, Coaxial, maybe foreign plugs/jacks/wall outlets, etc... I know there are millions of connectors out there and Visio can't include them all, but I feel this is a little hole that shouldn't exist for the common connectors mentioned, especially for computer-based plugs/connectors, being that the product includes shapes already, to tie these connectors directly in to. (Networking Shapes) |
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Thanks John,
I did know about Visio's ability to edit existing shapes, create new ones, and include clip art. The process of editing existing shapes, creating new ones or making clip art to blend in with existing visio shapes proved to be a great waste of time or beyond my artistic talents. I had hopes my money would have alleviated my shortcomings as an artist and would provide basic usefulness to accelerate my given talents. I have spent too much time searching for the shapes I was looking for and lost enough revenue to continue searching. I have in addition finished creating my own drawing using 3rd party drawing tools that made life alot easier overall. A big lesson learned and a very unrecommendable product due to its shortcomings. Diagraming shouldn't be this painful. Kirk "John Marshall, MVP" wrote: One thing you may be overlooking is that you can create your own shapes. You can create them from scratch, use clip art or photos. I have seen some of the shapes you ask for, but they have been part of other stencils and I can not seem to find them. John... Visio MVP Need stencils or ideas? http://www.mvps.org/visio/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://www.mvps.org/visio/VBA.htm Common Visio Questions http://www.mvps.org/visio/common_questions.htm "Kirk" wrote in message ... Thanks Al, Appreciate the pointers. I've unfortunately already browsed to them without finding anything regarding connectors. Even more disappointing while doing that search however, was in finding out that since Visio was absorbed by Microsoft that Visio has actually lost pre-existing shapes and templates. My first thoughts when I hear about "Time invested to create shapes" vs "Returned revenue" vs ..., a . Most important, I have an application in front of me today, Visio 2003, that fails to provide the basic shapes I need, today, to do my job. . What revenue will exist if the product doesn't provide basic shapes for currently existing shapes to blend them into? $499 US is certainly not a basic price. . Maybe these shapes and others people are looking for don't exist so that I/we can pay another $499 US or $249 US(upgrade) for Visio 200x? Those coy methods of making money for a money hungry world. Knowing all of this, I have Visio 2003 sitting here doing nothing, since it doesn't provide the basic tools for me to do my job. To save time, I am creating my own diagrams by hand using art-based utilities. Very discouraged, Kirk "Al Edlund" wrote: MS decided that the cost of supplying all of those was more than the revenue that came back. John Marshall has a list of third party sites on his page at www.mvps.org/visio You can also check our friends over at Siemons http://www.siemon.com/us/download/visio.asp#visio or Netzoom www.netzoom.com Al "Kirk" wrote in message ... I recently purchased Visio 2003 Professional and am very displeased that it is missing shapes for the various plugs and connectors for everyday typical devices, especially computer devices. I was hoping to find shapes showing the plug end view with the pin outs and maybe side or angled profile views for; USB, Firewire, S-Video, VIVO, Composite, RCA, RJ11, RJ45, Parallel Port, Coaxial, maybe foreign plugs/jacks/wall outlets, etc... I know there are millions of connectors out there and Visio can't include them all, but I feel this is a little hole that shouldn't exist for the common connectors mentioned, especially for computer-based plugs/connectors, being that the product includes shapes already, to tie these connectors directly in to. (Networking Shapes) |
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"Kirk" wrote: Knowing all of this, I have Visio 2003 sitting here doing nothing, since it doesn't provide the basic tools for me to do my job. To save time, I am creating my own diagrams by hand using art-based utilities. I've just come into this thread, so pardon any repetition of previous comments. Kirk, one of the strengths of Visio (all versions) is the ability to create custom shapes with a variety of attributes, behaviours, etc. I teach introduction to CAD using Visio. The specified learning outcomes of the course include strong emphasis on the creation of custom stencils of specified electrical schematic and architectural symbols, and their use in a required series of drawings. Of all the CAD packages around, Visio is, in my opinion, the best all-round, even though Microsoft in their lack of wisdom have, since acquiring Visio, downgraded its intended usage to a rather kiddie-crappy flow-charting trivia reflecting the priorities of bean-counters. Nevertheless, Visio's underlying strengths enable it to be used for a much wider range of applications than envisaged by the twisted, shambling bean-counters in the dungeons of Redmond. Fortunately, Microsoft encourage such excellent gurus as John Marshall and other MVPs. (Musing - I wonder if it has ever occurred to MS and its fiduciary gnomes that its corporate success was initially due to its excellence in meeting needs and BECAUSE - not in spite of - BECAUSE of its ready copyability and - yes - even pirateability. A thousand deadly poxes on the heads of all dungeon-dwelling, reality-challenged bean-counters. May their chooks turn to emus and kick their dunnies down around their pointy ears.) And a sombre note - Australia has allocated $A1.6 billion for direct relief of the Asia tsunami horror, in addition to other millions in direct military and civil assistance and charitable contributions. A small country of just 20 million, we regret its sad necessity but are grateful that we can. A single Salvation Army collection table at our local shopping centre collected over $5000 in just one day. Pemo -- ,-._|\ / Oz \ Melbourne \_,--.x/ Australia v |
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