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January 15th, 2008, 06:20 PM
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How to teach Visio.
Congratulations on the delivery of your new project. As with most new
projects, there is usually a huge requirement for maintanence, but the end results are usually worth it. ;-) John... Visio MVP Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm "John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hello John, Unfortunately not. I've recently taken delivery of a new son and am still trying to work out how this new package operates, as he doesn't come with a manual, online or otherwise  Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "John Marshall, MVP" wrote in message ... Are you coming to the Visio conference? John... Visio MVP Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm "John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hi Al, I haven't read David Edson's book, but DVS is available in hard copy (http://www.amazon.com/Developing-Mic...348312&sr=8-2). I think you're right about online vs hard copy. Paper's still hard to beat for reading cover to cover. Best regards John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk 
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#12
January 15th, 2008, 07:45 PM
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How to teach Visio.
Thank you, you're quite right. The increase in maintenance seems to
corrolate directly with an equal decrease in sleep! Have fun at the conference. Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "John Marshall, MVP" wrote in message ... Congratulations on the delivery of your new project. As with most new projects, there is usually a huge requirement for maintanence, but the end results are usually worth it. ;-) John... Visio MVP Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm "John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hello John, Unfortunately not. I've recently taken delivery of a new son and am still trying to work out how this new package operates, as he doesn't come with a manual, online or otherwise Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "John Marshall, MVP" wrote in message ... Are you coming to the Visio conference? John... Visio MVP Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm "John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hi Al, I haven't read David Edson's book, but DVS is available in hard copy (http://www.amazon.com/Developing-Mic...348312&sr=8-2). I think you're right about online vs hard copy. Paper's still hard to beat for reading cover to cover. Best regards John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk
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January 15th, 2008, 10:38 PM
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How to teach Visio.
I have one John ...
"John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hi Al, I'll have to see if I can track down a copy of David's book then and check it out. Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... John, David's book was my introduction (while Visio still sent DVS as a PDF (gotta luv acronyms)). I still go back to some of his demonstrations to get ideas on how to implement things. Kinda like Graham's stuff. Al "John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hi Al, I haven't read David Edson's book, but DVS is available in hard copy (http://www.amazon.com/Developing-Mic...348312&sr=8-2). I think you're right about online vs hard copy. Paper's still hard to beat for reading cover to cover. Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... AFAIK the DVS text isn't available in hard copy, so as a tutorial it can get to be pretty annoying to read on-line. I would then favor David Edson's book as one of the references for those getting started. Of course the video tutorials on-line on the office site can also show some directions you might take on. al "Philippe C." wrote: Any pedagogic suggestions ? I have allready a list of little caveats a user should be aware of. And things which are easier to see in a course than to follow in a book. Why should everyone have a course in Visio (and also in Sketchup) ? I'll be at the conference. -- David Parker Microsoft MVP (Visio) http://bvisual.spaces.live.com http://www.visualizinginformation.com
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January 16th, 2008, 08:13 AM
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How to teach Visio.
Great. I shall have to distract your attention next time we meet
"David Parker" wrote in message ... I have one John ... "John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hi Al, I'll have to see if I can track down a copy of David's book then and check it out. Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... John, David's book was my introduction (while Visio still sent DVS as a PDF (gotta luv acronyms)). I still go back to some of his demonstrations to get ideas on how to implement things. Kinda like Graham's stuff. Al "John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hi Al, I haven't read David Edson's book, but DVS is available in hard copy (http://www.amazon.com/Developing-Mic...348312&sr=8-2). I think you're right about online vs hard copy. Paper's still hard to beat for reading cover to cover. Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... AFAIK the DVS text isn't available in hard copy, so as a tutorial it can get to be pretty annoying to read on-line. I would then favor David Edson's book as one of the references for those getting started. Of course the video tutorials on-line on the office site can also show some directions you might take on. al "Philippe C." wrote: Any pedagogic suggestions ? I have allready a list of little caveats a user should be aware of. And things which are easier to see in a course than to follow in a book. Why should everyone have a course in Visio (and also in Sketchup) ? I'll be at the conference. -- David Parker Microsoft MVP (Visio) http://bvisual.spaces.live.com http://www.visualizinginformation.com
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#15
January 17th, 2008, 12:48 PM
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How to teach Visio.
It goes beyond books (system dumps and traces while on the train commuting).
al "John Marshall, MVP" wrote in message ... Originally DVS was available as a book that came with the software (remember those days?). At that time, DVS stood for Developing Visio Shapes. There was also a book called Programming Visio which was eventually combined with DVS. After that it came as an Acrobat file called, DVS.PDF. So if you still have an older copy of Visio, you should be able to find a copy of DVS.PDF. So Al, you prefer hard copy to online? You must have been well trained at IBM to lug around their manuals. I've installed many TNLs in my life time and if I can get a soft copy, I'll get it. I keep kidding Graham that since his books continue on from DVS, that DVS really stands for "Da Very Start". John... Visio MVP Three weeks till the Visio Conference!!!! ;-) Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... AFAIK the DVS text isn't available in hard copy, so as a tutorial it can get to be pretty annoying to read on-line. I would then favor David Edson's book as one of the references for those getting started. Of course the video tutorials on-line on the office site can also show some directions you might take on. al "Philippe C." wrote: Any pedagogic suggestions ? I have allready a list of little caveats a user should be aware of. And things which are easier to see in a course than to follow in a book. Why should everyone have a course in Visio (and also in Sketchup) ? I'll be at the conference.
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