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Template Displayed on Screen Differs From what Prints on Paper
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Vista Home Premium x64 64 bit Word Template has teh following characteristics It is letterhead created a logo in a text box to control positioning precisely created a section break continuous and typed in text of address in next section added standard body elements. Looks perfect on screen. When printing the first character of the logo in the text box is cut off. I have tried every layout manipulation I can think of but it still is not giving me WYSIWYG printing. I previously did this exact operation successfully in Word XP. I thought it might be a conversion issue, so I recreated a new template in Word 2007 from scratch, and the problem remains the same. Any insights would be much appreciated. Nash |
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Well, first of all, you don't need the section break; see
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm for the correct procedure. And in the second place, you don't need the text box; if you apply the appropriate wrapping to your logo, you have exactly the same placement options as a text box. But the reason it isn't printing as you want probably has to do with the printer's unprintable area. Are you seeing it cut off in Print Preview? If so, then that's the issue. Most printers have a finite, irreducible unprintable area required for the mechanics of paper handling. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Nash_deVille" wrote in message ... Word 2007 Vista Home Premium x64 64 bit Word Template has teh following characteristics It is letterhead created a logo in a text box to control positioning precisely created a section break continuous and typed in text of address in next section added standard body elements. Looks perfect on screen. When printing the first character of the logo in the text box is cut off. I have tried every layout manipulation I can think of but it still is not giving me WYSIWYG printing. I previously did this exact operation successfully in Word XP. I thought it might be a conversion issue, so I recreated a new template in Word 2007 from scratch, and the problem remains the same. Any insights would be much appreciated. Nash |
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Thank you for your reply. I will review the material at the link.
A workaround that I have been using is to save the document as a PDF, then print the PDF. That works. Therefore, the failure of WYSIWYG in Word 2007 is not related to the printable area available to the printer hardware. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Well, first of all, you don't need the section break; see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm for the correct procedure. And in the second place, you don't need the text box; if you apply the appropriate wrapping to your logo, you have exactly the same placement options as a text box. But the reason it isn't printing as you want probably has to do with the printer's unprintable area. Are you seeing it cut off in Print Preview? If so, then that's the issue. Most printers have a finite, irreducible unprintable area required for the mechanics of paper handling. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Nash_deVille" wrote in message ... Word 2007 Vista Home Premium x64 64 bit Word Template has teh following characteristics It is letterhead created a logo in a text box to control positioning precisely created a section break continuous and typed in text of address in next section added standard body elements. Looks perfect on screen. When printing the first character of the logo in the text box is cut off. I have tried every layout manipulation I can think of but it still is not giving me WYSIWYG printing. I previously did this exact operation successfully in Word XP. I thought it might be a conversion issue, so I recreated a new template in Word 2007 from scratch, and the problem remains the same. Any insights would be much appreciated. Nash |
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Nash_deVille wrote:
A workaround that I have been using is to save the document as a PDF, then print the PDF. That works. Therefore, the failure of WYSIWYG in Word 2007 is not related to the printable area available to the printer hardware. Not necessarily. The printer driver is an essential formatting component of Word documents and Word will only do what the driver will allow. Other applications often address the printer directly. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org |
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Hi Suzanne,
Thanks for your help with my questions - I really appreciate it a lot. I tested the print preview as you suggested, and the document print previews perfectly, but the problem of the text in the text box cutting off about half of the first letter remains. I tried moving the text box to the center of the page, where the body of the letter would usually go, and it does not cut off there. It prints the way it looks on the screen. I hope to have a few minutes to try some of the different techniques you describe for setting up a letterhead template so I can reach a real resolution instead of relying on my workaround of save as PDF, print PDF. Any other thoughts on how to solve this problem would be welcomed. Thanks, Nash_deVille "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Well, first of all, you don't need the section break; see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm for the correct procedure. And in the second place, you don't need the text box; if you apply the appropriate wrapping to your logo, you have exactly the same placement options as a text box. But the reason it isn't printing as you want probably has to do with the printer's unprintable area. Are you seeing it cut off in Print Preview? If so, then that's the issue. Most printers have a finite, irreducible unprintable area required for the mechanics of paper handling. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Nash_deVille" wrote in message ... Word 2007 Vista Home Premium x64 64 bit Word Template has teh following characteristics It is letterhead created a logo in a text box to control positioning precisely created a section break continuous and typed in text of address in next section added standard body elements. Looks perfect on screen. When printing the first character of the logo in the text box is cut off. I have tried every layout manipulation I can think of but it still is not giving me WYSIWYG printing. I previously did this exact operation successfully in Word XP. I thought it might be a conversion issue, so I recreated a new template in Word 2007 from scratch, and the problem remains the same. Any insights would be much appreciated. Nash |
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I really do think what you're running into is the printer's unprintable
area. If you are going to print to a desktop printer, this is just something you will have to work around. You can print to a PDF and get the whole thing, but when you print the PDF, Acrobat is just going to scale it to get it all on the page within the printer's capabilities. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Nash_deVille" wrote in message ... Hi Suzanne, Thanks for your help with my questions - I really appreciate it a lot. I tested the print preview as you suggested, and the document print previews perfectly, but the problem of the text in the text box cutting off about half of the first letter remains. I tried moving the text box to the center of the page, where the body of the letter would usually go, and it does not cut off there. It prints the way it looks on the screen. I hope to have a few minutes to try some of the different techniques you describe for setting up a letterhead template so I can reach a real resolution instead of relying on my workaround of save as PDF, print PDF. Any other thoughts on how to solve this problem would be welcomed. Thanks, Nash_deVille "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Well, first of all, you don't need the section break; see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm for the correct procedure. And in the second place, you don't need the text box; if you apply the appropriate wrapping to your logo, you have exactly the same placement options as a text box. But the reason it isn't printing as you want probably has to do with the printer's unprintable area. Are you seeing it cut off in Print Preview? If so, then that's the issue. Most printers have a finite, irreducible unprintable area required for the mechanics of paper handling. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Nash_deVille" wrote in message ... Word 2007 Vista Home Premium x64 64 bit Word Template has teh following characteristics It is letterhead created a logo in a text box to control positioning precisely created a section break continuous and typed in text of address in next section added standard body elements. Looks perfect on screen. When printing the first character of the logo in the text box is cut off. I have tried every layout manipulation I can think of but it still is not giving me WYSIWYG printing. I previously did this exact operation successfully in Word XP. I thought it might be a conversion issue, so I recreated a new template in Word 2007 from scratch, and the problem remains the same. Any insights would be much appreciated. Nash |
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I understand the concept of grip space, and usable area on a page of paper in
the printer. For the following reasons, I think it is rational to rule that out as the culprit. The part that's cutting off is in the center of the page about 3/4" to 1" down from the top edge of the paper. There is other printing that is working properly immediately adjacent to the problem spot, 1/2" from the top edge of the paper, and across to 1/4" from the right edge which is all printing fine, just as expected. The PDF printing settings are set to "do not reduce" "do not scale to fit" and prints correctly. When the correctly printed PDF and the badly printed word document are stacked and held to the light, the position is identical except for the unprinted text on the word document. So far, it's a real puzzler. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I really do think what you're running into is the printer's unprintable area. If you are going to print to a desktop printer, this is just something you will have to work around. You can print to a PDF and get the whole thing, but when you print the PDF, Acrobat is just going to scale it to get it all on the page within the printer's capabilities. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Nash_deVille" wrote in message ... Hi Suzanne, Thanks for your help with my questions - I really appreciate it a lot. I tested the print preview as you suggested, and the document print previews perfectly, but the problem of the text in the text box cutting off about half of the first letter remains. I tried moving the text box to the center of the page, where the body of the letter would usually go, and it does not cut off there. It prints the way it looks on the screen. I hope to have a few minutes to try some of the different techniques you describe for setting up a letterhead template so I can reach a real resolution instead of relying on my workaround of save as PDF, print PDF. Any other thoughts on how to solve this problem would be welcomed. Thanks, Nash_deVille "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Well, first of all, you don't need the section break; see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm for the correct procedure. And in the second place, you don't need the text box; if you apply the appropriate wrapping to your logo, you have exactly the same placement options as a text box. But the reason it isn't printing as you want probably has to do with the printer's unprintable area. Are you seeing it cut off in Print Preview? If so, then that's the issue. Most printers have a finite, irreducible unprintable area required for the mechanics of paper handling. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Nash_deVille" wrote in message ... Word 2007 Vista Home Premium x64 64 bit Word Template has teh following characteristics It is letterhead created a logo in a text box to control positioning precisely created a section break continuous and typed in text of address in next section added standard body elements. Looks perfect on screen. When printing the first character of the logo in the text box is cut off. I have tried every layout manipulation I can think of but it still is not giving me WYSIWYG printing. I previously did this exact operation successfully in Word XP. I thought it might be a conversion issue, so I recreated a new template in Word 2007 from scratch, and the problem remains the same. Any insights would be much appreciated. Nash |
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P.S.
I've been using the same computer, the same network gear, and the same printer, and the same templates, all on Windows XP, Windows Vista 32, Windows Vista 64, with older print drivers, then the drivers that are installed now, all in various combinations that have worked fine to print this exact document. The sole change that took place from the time the document template last printed correctly to the time that this problem occurred was an upgrade from Office XP Pro to Office 2007 Pro. I have NOT tested a rollback to the old app. I thought maybe it was a compatibility problem from the old template to the new version of Word 2007, but the problem repeats even when starting with a new document in Word 2007 and hand typing all the elements from scratch. Thanks again for sticking with this puzzle. I am continually amazed by the generosity of the MVP community. Your hard work is deeply appreciated by this forum member. Sincerely, Nash_deVille "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I really do think what you're running into is the printer's unprintable area. If you are going to print to a desktop printer, this is just something you will have to work around. You can print to a PDF and get the whole thing, but when you print the PDF, Acrobat is just going to scale it to get it all on the page within the printer's capabilities. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Nash_deVille" wrote in message ... Hi Suzanne, Thanks for your help with my questions - I really appreciate it a lot. I tested the print preview as you suggested, and the document print previews perfectly, but the problem of the text in the text box cutting off about half of the first letter remains. I tried moving the text box to the center of the page, where the body of the letter would usually go, and it does not cut off there. It prints the way it looks on the screen. I hope to have a few minutes to try some of the different techniques you describe for setting up a letterhead template so I can reach a real resolution instead of relying on my workaround of save as PDF, print PDF. Any other thoughts on how to solve this problem would be welcomed. Thanks, Nash_deVille "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Well, first of all, you don't need the section break; see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm for the correct procedure. And in the second place, you don't need the text box; if you apply the appropriate wrapping to your logo, you have exactly the same placement options as a text box. But the reason it isn't printing as you want probably has to do with the printer's unprintable area. Are you seeing it cut off in Print Preview? If so, then that's the issue. Most printers have a finite, irreducible unprintable area required for the mechanics of paper handling. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Nash_deVille" wrote in message ... Word 2007 Vista Home Premium x64 64 bit Word Template has teh following characteristics It is letterhead created a logo in a text box to control positioning precisely created a section break continuous and typed in text of address in next section added standard body elements. Looks perfect on screen. When printing the first character of the logo in the text box is cut off. I have tried every layout manipulation I can think of but it still is not giving me WYSIWYG printing. I previously did this exact operation successfully in Word XP. I thought it might be a conversion issue, so I recreated a new template in Word 2007 from scratch, and the problem remains the same. Any insights would be much appreciated. Nash |
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I'd be interested to see the document in question if you want to send it to
my email. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Nash_deVille" wrote in message ... I understand the concept of grip space, and usable area on a page of paper in the printer. For the following reasons, I think it is rational to rule that out as the culprit. The part that's cutting off is in the center of the page about 3/4" to 1" down from the top edge of the paper. There is other printing that is working properly immediately adjacent to the problem spot, 1/2" from the top edge of the paper, and across to 1/4" from the right edge which is all printing fine, just as expected. The PDF printing settings are set to "do not reduce" "do not scale to fit" and prints correctly. When the correctly printed PDF and the badly printed word document are stacked and held to the light, the position is identical except for the unprinted text on the word document. So far, it's a real puzzler. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I really do think what you're running into is the printer's unprintable area. If you are going to print to a desktop printer, this is just something you will have to work around. You can print to a PDF and get the whole thing, but when you print the PDF, Acrobat is just going to scale it to get it all on the page within the printer's capabilities. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Nash_deVille" wrote in message ... Hi Suzanne, Thanks for your help with my questions - I really appreciate it a lot. I tested the print preview as you suggested, and the document print previews perfectly, but the problem of the text in the text box cutting off about half of the first letter remains. I tried moving the text box to the center of the page, where the body of the letter would usually go, and it does not cut off there. It prints the way it looks on the screen. I hope to have a few minutes to try some of the different techniques you describe for setting up a letterhead template so I can reach a real resolution instead of relying on my workaround of save as PDF, print PDF. Any other thoughts on how to solve this problem would be welcomed. Thanks, Nash_deVille "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Well, first of all, you don't need the section break; see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm for the correct procedure. And in the second place, you don't need the text box; if you apply the appropriate wrapping to your logo, you have exactly the same placement options as a text box. But the reason it isn't printing as you want probably has to do with the printer's unprintable area. Are you seeing it cut off in Print Preview? If so, then that's the issue. Most printers have a finite, irreducible unprintable area required for the mechanics of paper handling. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Nash_deVille" wrote in message ... Word 2007 Vista Home Premium x64 64 bit Word Template has teh following characteristics It is letterhead created a logo in a text box to control positioning precisely created a section break continuous and typed in text of address in next section added standard body elements. Looks perfect on screen. When printing the first character of the logo in the text box is cut off. I have tried every layout manipulation I can think of but it still is not giving me WYSIWYG printing. I previously did this exact operation successfully in Word XP. I thought it might be a conversion issue, so I recreated a new template in Word 2007 from scratch, and the problem remains the same. Any insights would be much appreciated. Nash |
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I have emailed it to the email address through the Contact Us page of your
website in your signature block. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I'd be interested to see the document in question if you want to send it to my email. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Nash_deVille" wrote in message ... I understand the concept of grip space, and usable area on a page of paper in the printer. For the following reasons, I think it is rational to rule that out as the culprit. The part that's cutting off is in the center of the page about 3/4" to 1" down from the top edge of the paper. There is other printing that is working properly immediately adjacent to the problem spot, 1/2" from the top edge of the paper, and across to 1/4" from the right edge which is all printing fine, just as expected. The PDF printing settings are set to "do not reduce" "do not scale to fit" and prints correctly. When the correctly printed PDF and the badly printed word document are stacked and held to the light, the position is identical except for the unprinted text on the word document. So far, it's a real puzzler. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I really do think what you're running into is the printer's unprintable area. If you are going to print to a desktop printer, this is just something you will have to work around. You can print to a PDF and get the whole thing, but when you print the PDF, Acrobat is just going to scale it to get it all on the page within the printer's capabilities. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Nash_deVille" wrote in message ... Hi Suzanne, Thanks for your help with my questions - I really appreciate it a lot. I tested the print preview as you suggested, and the document print previews perfectly, but the problem of the text in the text box cutting off about half of the first letter remains. I tried moving the text box to the center of the page, where the body of the letter would usually go, and it does not cut off there. It prints the way it looks on the screen. I hope to have a few minutes to try some of the different techniques you describe for setting up a letterhead template so I can reach a real resolution instead of relying on my workaround of save as PDF, print PDF. Any other thoughts on how to solve this problem would be welcomed. Thanks, Nash_deVille "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Well, first of all, you don't need the section break; see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm for the correct procedure. And in the second place, you don't need the text box; if you apply the appropriate wrapping to your logo, you have exactly the same placement options as a text box. But the reason it isn't printing as you want probably has to do with the printer's unprintable area. Are you seeing it cut off in Print Preview? If so, then that's the issue. Most printers have a finite, irreducible unprintable area required for the mechanics of paper handling. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Nash_deVille" wrote in message ... Word 2007 Vista Home Premium x64 64 bit Word Template has teh following characteristics It is letterhead created a logo in a text box to control positioning precisely created a section break continuous and typed in text of address in next section added standard body elements. Looks perfect on screen. When printing the first character of the logo in the text box is cut off. I have tried every layout manipulation I can think of but it still is not giving me WYSIWYG printing. I previously did this exact operation successfully in Word XP. I thought it might be a conversion issue, so I recreated a new template in Word 2007 from scratch, and the problem remains the same. Any insights would be much appreciated. Nash |
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