Disappeared e-mails in OE6...

Hello again,

Well good thing I do not use McAffee nor have ever used it. And as for
Norton, I got tired of Norton's mandatory fee for updating virus
definitions--it's now uninstalled. I use Avast! 4.1 (but now with all e-mail
scanning off).

Another thing just came to me. I'm not completely sure if I'm interpreting
it the right way but here goes. Ever since the folder's emptying out, it has
stopped accumulating e-mail. I believe I even sent myself a dummy e-mail
just to see if it gets through, but as I can remember--though vaguely--it
never got deposited in the said folder. Of course I cannot run this test
again as I risk losing the e-mails waiting on the server.

And I've read in a few posts about a similar problem and the solution to it.
Something along the lines of "if your messages are downloaded to a folder
but the folder remains empty, download such and such." what's that all
about?

-TA

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
All I can suggest is make sure you read the instructions on using DBXpress
at the site: www.oehelp.com and make sure you print them out for
reference.
Until you run the program, the contents of the DBX files are in question
since no one knows what's in them. I hope you find your missing messages
and the only advice I could give you would be to always backup your
essential files, including your DBX files in your message store folder to
another location (or to removeable media) for safety sake. Good luck and
let us know how things turn out.

One other cause of damage to DBX files is often using an antivirus product
to scan incoming email. Early versions of McAffee were notorious for
destroying stored messages (and without hope of recovery) and there is
some
hope that they've fixed it in their newer versions but I won't allow
McAffee
anywhere near any computer I own or service. Recent versions of Norton
are
almost as bad as getting a virus, but I recognize the need for antivirus
protection and am dismayed that those two products have created so many
problems for their users.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply only to newsgroup.


"Timur Abdullin" wrote in message
...
Hello Jim,

To update you on my situation, I just found out something odd that
somewhat
goes against what you said about corrupted *.dbx files having appended
numbers. (Read up on the INITIAL post of this thread.) I found out that
the
corrupted folder, because of which I had turned to this newsgroup for
answers, had NOT been tagged with a "(*)"-format number! But I know for
a
fact that it contained e-mails!! Where's the number (the indicator of
corruption) and where are my 30-some e-mails? What's going on?

And , FYI, the other folders I talked about in the beginning post, it
seems,
were corrupted much earlier and only later, when one folder (the recent
center of my attention) suddenly emptied out, did I learn of OE's
corrupt-ability. Also, I got DBXpress just today and am waiting for your
reply so I could begin the recovery process.

-TA

You message store is likely corrupt and the best thing you can do is to set
up a new Identity and then import the messages from the older identity.

steve

"Timur Abdullin" wrote in message
...
Hello again,

Well good thing I do not use McAffee nor have ever used it. And as for
Norton, I got tired of Norton's mandatory fee for updating virus
definitions--it's now uninstalled. I use Avast! 4.1 (but now with all
e-mail
scanning off).

Another thing just came to me. I'm not completely sure if I'm interpreting
it the right way but here goes. Ever since the folder's emptying out, it
has
stopped accumulating e-mail. I believe I even sent myself a dummy e-mail
just to see if it gets through, but as I can remember--though vaguely--it
never got deposited in the said folder. Of course I cannot run this test
again as I risk losing the e-mails waiting on the server.

And I've read in a few posts about a similar problem and the solution to
it.
Something along the lines of "if your messages are downloaded to a folder
but the folder remains empty, download such and such." what's that all
about?

-TA

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
All I can suggest is make sure you read the instructions on using
DBXpress
at the site: www.oehelp.com and make sure you print them out for
reference.
Until you run the program, the contents of the DBX files are in question
since no one knows what's in them. I hope you find your missing
messages
and the only advice I could give you would be to always backup your
essential files, including your DBX files in your message store folder
to
another location (or to removeable media) for safety sake. Good luck
and
let us know how things turn out.

One other cause of damage to DBX files is often using an antivirus
product
to scan incoming email. Early versions of McAffee were notorious for
destroying stored messages (and without hope of recovery) and there is
some
hope that they've fixed it in their newer versions but I won't allow
McAffee
anywhere near any computer I own or service. Recent versions of Norton
are
almost as bad as getting a virus, but I recognize the need for antivirus
protection and am dismayed that those two products have created so many
problems for their users.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply only to newsgroup.


"Timur Abdullin" wrote in message
...
Hello Jim,

To update you on my situation, I just found out something odd that
somewhat
goes against what you said about corrupted *.dbx files having appended
numbers. (Read up on the INITIAL post of this thread.) I found out
that
the
corrupted folder, because of which I had turned to this newsgroup for
answers, had NOT been tagged with a "(*)"-format number! But I know
for
a
fact that it contained e-mails!! Where's the number (the indicator of
corruption) and where are my 30-some e-mails? What's going on?

And , FYI, the other folders I talked about in the beginning post, it
seems,
were corrupted much earlier and only later, when one folder (the
recent
center of my attention) suddenly emptied out, did I learn of OE's
corrupt-ability. Also, I got DBXpress just today and am waiting for
your
reply so I could begin the recovery process.

-TA

"Timur Abdullin" wrote in message
...

snipped

Another thing just came to me. I'm not completely sure if I'm interpreting
it the right way but here goes. Ever since the folder's emptying out, it
has
stopped accumulating e-mail. I believe I even sent myself a dummy e-mail
just to see if it gets through, but as I can remember--though vaguely--it
never got deposited in the said folder. Of course I cannot run this test
again as I risk losing the e-mails waiting on the server.


As Steve has mentioned, create a new Identity in OE and use it as a test bed
and more importantly, a new set of dbx files and registry settings.


And I've read in a few posts about a similar problem and the solution to
it.
Something along the lines of "if your messages are downloaded to a folder
but the folder remains empty, download such and such." what's that all
about?

No one can answer that as it's too vague.

Problems with the dbx files has been long known. Files that have a number
appended to it (*) as you have mentioned, can be because the Folders.dbx
file, the main file that contains the structure of the folders could not
read the dbx file in question and created a new one. It can usually be
recovered but in different ways.

Greetings to everyone,

Have all my efforts been for nothing? Have my postings and attempts to
understand the naturally-corruptible OE6 been in vain without much success?
I don't really know as I try to evaluate the results of the extracted items
from supposedly corrupted folders via DBXpress. The situation seems bleak to
me. But I shall present to you the results nonetheless for your own
evaluation.

Today I have successfully used DBXpress and had even some fun at it because
of its clean, easy interface. However to my disappointment, when all the
boxes were checked prior to extraction, the process yielded less than
satisfactory results. I'm not blaming the program here but perhaps myself
for not taking action sooner--for taking too long to stop and think.
Extraction only managed to get less than 10 *.txt files, all of which,
seemed to have been deleted willingly by me some time ago. Subsequent
extraction attempts proved to be just as hopeless.

So what am I to do now? What's the next step that you would recommend I
take--an alternate attempt, a completely different approach, something else
entirely, perhaps? I'm open to suggestions. And if its over for me and the
lost files, what would you say I ought to do at this point as I've read a
few of your earlier recommendations? New OE6 id? Better e-mail
client...would Outlook 2003 be best contender? (Which is the best client for
e-mail storage/retrieval?) If I CANNOT get the files back, should I at least
rename all files whose filenames have a number appended to them (e.g. "My
Folder (1).dbx" -- "My Folder.dbx"? What about backing up OE? Suing the
pants off Microsoft or my anti-virus provider? Like I said, I'm open to your
expert advice.

One more thing I forgot to add that may explain for the initial corruption.
Some of the me-created folders in my OE6 carry names that have spaces and/or
parenthesis and/or periods and/or slashes. Some examples:

"My Work"
"Stuff (online IDs)"
"TVGuide.com"
"News/Entertainment"

Would you say this (non-alpha-numerical characters) has any bearing on my
current situation with OE corruption? I await you answers, gentlemen. I just
hope its not a failed mission for me and that the files are still
recoverable.

Sincerely,

T. Abdullin


"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
All I can suggest is make sure you read the instructions on using DBXpress
at the site: www.oehelp.com and make sure you print them out for
reference.
Until you run the program, the contents of the DBX files are in question
since no one knows what's in them. I hope you find your missing messages
and the only advice I could give you would be to always backup your
essential files, including your DBX files in your message store folder to
another location (or to removeable media) for safety sake. Good luck and
let us know how things turn out.

One other cause of damage to DBX files is often using an antivirus product
to scan incoming email. Early versions of McAffee were notorious for
destroying stored messages (and without hope of recovery) and there is
some
hope that they've fixed it in their newer versions but I won't allow
McAffee
anywhere near any computer I own or service. Recent versions of Norton
are
almost as bad as getting a virus, but I recognize the need for antivirus
protection and am dismayed that those two products have created so many
problems for their users.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply only to newsgroup.


"Timur Abdullin" wrote in message
...
Hello Jim,

To update you on my situation, I just found out something odd that
somewhat
goes against what you said about corrupted *.dbx files having appended
numbers. (Read up on the INITIAL post of this thread.) I found out that
the
corrupted folder, because of which I had turned to this newsgroup for
answers, had NOT been tagged with a "(*)"-format number! But I know for
a
fact that it contained e-mails!! Where's the number (the indicator of
corruption) and where are my 30-some e-mails? What's going on?

And , FYI, the other folders I talked about in the beginning post, it
seems,
were corrupted much earlier and only later, when one folder (the recent
center of my attention) suddenly emptied out, did I learn of OE's
corrupt-ability. Also, I got DBXpress just today and am waiting for your
reply so I could begin the recovery process.

-TA

Try DBXtract again on the folder and this time, do not use Recover mode.

Timur Abdullin wrote:
Greetings to everyone,

Have all my efforts been for nothing? Have my postings and attempts to
understand the naturally-corruptible OE6 been in vain without much success?
I don't really know as I try to evaluate the results of the extracted items
from supposedly corrupted folders via DBXpress. The situation seems bleak to
me. But I shall present to you the results nonetheless for your own
evaluation.

Today I have successfully used DBXpress and had even some fun at it because
of its clean, easy interface. However to my disappointment, when all the
boxes were checked prior to extraction, the process yielded less than
satisfactory results. I'm not blaming the program here but perhaps myself
for not taking action sooner--for taking too long to stop and think.
Extraction only managed to get less than 10 *.txt files, all of which,
seemed to have been deleted willingly by me some time ago. Subsequent
extraction attempts proved to be just as hopeless.

So what am I to do now? What's the next step that you would recommend I
take--an alternate attempt, a completely different approach, something else
entirely, perhaps? I'm open to suggestions. And if its over for me and the
lost files, what would you say I ought to do at this point as I've read a
few of your earlier recommendations? New OE6 id? Better e-mail
client...would Outlook 2003 be best contender? (Which is the best client for
e-mail storage/retrieval?) If I CANNOT get the files back, should I at least
rename all files whose filenames have a number appended to them (e.g. "My
Folder (1).dbx" -- "My Folder.dbx"? What about backing up OE? Suing the
pants off Microsoft or my anti-virus provider? Like I said, I'm open to your
expert advice.

One more thing I forgot to add that may explain for the initial corruption.
Some of the me-created folders in my OE6 carry names that have spaces and/or
parenthesis and/or periods and/or slashes. Some examples:

"My Work"
"Stuff (online IDs)"
"TVGuide.com"
"News/Entertainment"

Would you say this (non-alpha-numerical characters) has any bearing on my
current situation with OE corruption? I await you answers, gentlemen. I just
hope its not a failed mission for me and that the files are still
recoverable.

Sincerely,

T. Abdullin


"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...

All I can suggest is make sure you read the instructions on using DBXpress
at the site: www.oehelp.com and make sure you print them out for

reference.

Until you run the program, the contents of the DBX files are in question
since no one knows what's in them. I hope you find your missing messages
and the only advice I could give you would be to always backup your
essential files, including your DBX files in your message store folder to
another location (or to removeable media) for safety sake. Good luck and
let us know how things turn out.

One other cause of damage to DBX files is often using an antivirus product
to scan incoming email. Early versions of McAffee were notorious for
destroying stored messages (and without hope of recovery) and there is

some

hope that they've fixed it in their newer versions but I won't allow

McAffee

anywhere near any computer I own or service. Recent versions of Norton

are

almost as bad as getting a virus, but I recognize the need for antivirus
protection and am dismayed that those two products have created so many
problems for their users.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply only to newsgroup.


"Timur Abdullin" wrote in message
...

Hello Jim,

To update you on my situation, I just found out something odd that
somewhat
goes against what you said about corrupted *.dbx files having appended
numbers. (Read up on the INITIAL post of this thread.) I found out that
the
corrupted folder, because of which I had turned to this newsgroup for
answers, had NOT been tagged with a "(*)"-format number! But I know for

a

fact that it contained e-mails!! Where's the number (the indicator of
corruption) and where are my 30-some e-mails? What's going on?

And , FYI, the other folders I talked about in the beginning post, it
seems,
were corrupted much earlier and only later, when one folder (the recent
center of my attention) suddenly emptied out, did I learn of OE's
corrupt-ability. Also, I got DBXpress just today and am waiting for your
reply so I could begin the recovery process.

-TA





--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply to newsgroup only.

Yes. Run it but not in Recover mode.

--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply to newsgroup only.

Timur Abdullin wrote:

Sure, but I have DBXpress. Do you mean try DBXpress?

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...

Try DBXtract again on the folder and this time, do not use Recover mode.

Timur Abdullin wrote:

Greetings to everyone,

Have all my efforts been for nothing? Have my postings and attempts to
understand the naturally-corruptible OE6 been in vain without much

success?

I don't really know as I try to evaluate the results of the extracted

items

from supposedly corrupted folders via DBXpress. The situation seems

bleak to

me. But I shall present to you the results nonetheless for your own
evaluation.

Today I have successfully used DBXpress and had even some fun at it

because

of its clean, easy interface. However to my disappointment, when all the
boxes were checked prior to extraction, the process yielded less than
satisfactory results. I'm not blaming the program here but perhaps

myself

for not taking action sooner--for taking too long to stop and think.
Extraction only managed to get less than 10 *.txt files, all of which,
seemed to have been deleted willingly by me some time ago. Subsequent
extraction attempts proved to be just as hopeless.

So what am I to do now? What's the next step that you would recommend I
take--an alternate attempt, a completely different approach, something

else

entirely, perhaps? I'm open to suggestions. And if its over for me and

the

lost files, what would you say I ought to do at this point as I've read

a

few of your earlier recommendations? New OE6 id? Better e-mail
client...would Outlook 2003 be best contender? (Which is the best client

for

e-mail storage/retrieval?) If I CANNOT get the files back, should I at

least

rename all files whose filenames have a number appended to them (e.g.

"My

Folder (1).dbx" -- "My Folder.dbx"? What about backing up OE? Suing the
pants off Microsoft or my anti-virus provider? Like I said, I'm open to

your

expert advice.

One more thing I forgot to add that may explain for the initial

corruption.

Some of the me-created folders in my OE6 carry names that have spaces

and/or

parenthesis and/or periods and/or slashes. Some examples:

"My Work"
"Stuff (online IDs)"
"TVGuide.com"
"News/Entertainment"

Would you say this (non-alpha-numerical characters) has any bearing on

my

current situation with OE corruption? I await you answers, gentlemen. I

just

hope its not a failed mission for me and that the files are still
recoverable.

Sincerely,

T. Abdullin


"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...


All I can suggest is make sure you read the instructions on using

DBXpress

at the site: www.oehelp.com and make sure you print them out for

reference.


Until you run the program, the contents of the DBX files are in question
since no one knows what's in them. I hope you find your missing

messages

and the only advice I could give you would be to always backup your
essential files, including your DBX files in your message store folder

to

another location (or to removeable media) for safety sake. Good luck

and

let us know how things turn out.

One other cause of damage to DBX files is often using an antivirus

product

to scan incoming email. Early versions of McAffee were notorious for
destroying stored messages (and without hope of recovery) and there is

some


hope that they've fixed it in their newer versions but I won't allow

McAffee


anywhere near any computer I own or service. Recent versions of Norton

are


almost as bad as getting a virus, but I recognize the need for antivirus
protection and am dismayed that those two products have created so many
problems for their users.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply only to newsgroup.


"Timur Abdullin" wrote in message
...


Hello Jim,

To update you on my situation, I just found out something odd that
somewhat
goes against what you said about corrupted *.dbx files having appended
numbers. (Read up on the INITIAL post of this thread.) I found out that
the
corrupted folder, because of which I had turned to this newsgroup for
answers, had NOT been tagged with a "(*)"-format number! But I know for

a


fact that it contained e-mails!! Where's the number (the indicator of
corruption) and where are my 30-some e-mails? What's going on?

And , FYI, the other folders I talked about in the beginning post, it
seems,
were corrupted much earlier and only later, when one folder (the recent
center of my attention) suddenly emptied out, did I learn of OE's
corrupt-ability. Also, I got DBXpress just today and am waiting for

your

reply so I could begin the recovery process.

-TA



--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply to newsgroup only.

Sure, but I have DBXpress. Do you mean try DBXpress?

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Try DBXtract again on the folder and this time, do not use Recover mode.

Timur Abdullin wrote:
Greetings to everyone,

Have all my efforts been for nothing? Have my postings and attempts to
understand the naturally-corruptible OE6 been in vain without much
success?
I don't really know as I try to evaluate the results of the extracted
items
from supposedly corrupted folders via DBXpress. The situation seems
bleak to
me. But I shall present to you the results nonetheless for your own
evaluation.

Today I have successfully used DBXpress and had even some fun at it
because
of its clean, easy interface. However to my disappointment, when all the
boxes were checked prior to extraction, the process yielded less than
satisfactory results. I'm not blaming the program here but perhaps
myself
for not taking action sooner--for taking too long to stop and think.
Extraction only managed to get less than 10 *.txt files, all of which,
seemed to have been deleted willingly by me some time ago. Subsequent
extraction attempts proved to be just as hopeless.

So what am I to do now? What's the next step that you would recommend I
take--an alternate attempt, a completely different approach, something
else
entirely, perhaps? I'm open to suggestions. And if its over for me and
the
lost files, what would you say I ought to do at this point as I've read
a
few of your earlier recommendations? New OE6 id? Better e-mail
client...would Outlook 2003 be best contender? (Which is the best client
for
e-mail storage/retrieval?) If I CANNOT get the files back, should I at
least
rename all files whose filenames have a number appended to them (e.g.
"My
Folder (1).dbx" -- "My Folder.dbx"? What about backing up OE? Suing the
pants off Microsoft or my anti-virus provider? Like I said, I'm open to
your
expert advice.

One more thing I forgot to add that may explain for the initial
corruption.
Some of the me-created folders in my OE6 carry names that have spaces
and/or
parenthesis and/or periods and/or slashes. Some examples:

"My Work"
"Stuff (online IDs)"
"TVGuide.com"
"News/Entertainment"

Would you say this (non-alpha-numerical characters) has any bearing on
my
current situation with OE corruption? I await you answers, gentlemen. I
just
hope its not a failed mission for me and that the files are still
recoverable.

Sincerely,

T. Abdullin


"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...

All I can suggest is make sure you read the instructions on using
DBXpress
at the site: www.oehelp.com and make sure you print them out for

reference.

Until you run the program, the contents of the DBX files are in question
since no one knows what's in them. I hope you find your missing
messages
and the only advice I could give you would be to always backup your
essential files, including your DBX files in your message store folder
to
another location (or to removeable media) for safety sake. Good luck
and
let us know how things turn out.

One other cause of damage to DBX files is often using an antivirus
product
to scan incoming email. Early versions of McAffee were notorious for
destroying stored messages (and without hope of recovery) and there is

some

hope that they've fixed it in their newer versions but I won't allow

McAffee

anywhere near any computer I own or service. Recent versions of Norton

are

almost as bad as getting a virus, but I recognize the need for antivirus
protection and am dismayed that those two products have created so many
problems for their users.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply only to newsgroup.


"Timur Abdullin" wrote in message
...

Hello Jim,

To update you on my situation, I just found out something odd that
somewhat
goes against what you said about corrupted *.dbx files having appended
numbers. (Read up on the INITIAL post of this thread.) I found out that
the
corrupted folder, because of which I had turned to this newsgroup for
answers, had NOT been tagged with a "(*)"-format number! But I know for

a

fact that it contained e-mails!! Where's the number (the indicator of
corruption) and where are my 30-some e-mails? What's going on?

And , FYI, the other folders I talked about in the beginning post, it
seems,
were corrupted much earlier and only later, when one folder (the recent
center of my attention) suddenly emptied out, did I learn of OE's
corrupt-ability. Also, I got DBXpress just today and am waiting for
your
reply so I could begin the recovery process.

-TA





--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply to newsgroup only.

I ran DBXpress this time without the RECOVERY option set (all other boxes
were checked) and the results were significantly better. This time I got
*.eml files and a bit of *txt files. But oddly enough--and I think this
complicates things--a folder whose name contains parenthesis (e.g. "Folder
(items).dbx" that I put in its name when I was first naming it all of a
sudden became empty. Here's my analysis of this: since OE6 generates a new
folder upon the removal from its own folder, a new folder DID get generated
but since could not be named with parenthesis (since I already used them for
my own naming convenience), it just overwrote the "Folder (items).dbx" and
therefore replaced its contents with emptiness. What's your look on this?
And what else should I do?

-TA

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Yes. Run it but not in Recover mode.

--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply to newsgroup only.

Timur Abdullin wrote:

Sure, but I have DBXpress. Do you mean try DBXpress?

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...

Try DBXtract again on the folder and this time, do not use Recover mode.

Timur Abdullin wrote:

Greetings to everyone,

Have all my efforts been for nothing? Have my postings and attempts to
understand the naturally-corruptible OE6 been in vain without much

success?

I don't really know as I try to evaluate the results of the extracted

items

from supposedly corrupted folders via DBXpress. The situation seems

bleak to

me. But I shall present to you the results nonetheless for your own
evaluation.

Today I have successfully used DBXpress and had even some fun at it

because

of its clean, easy interface. However to my disappointment, when all
the
boxes were checked prior to extraction, the process yielded less than
satisfactory results. I'm not blaming the program here but perhaps

myself

for not taking action sooner--for taking too long to stop and think.
Extraction only managed to get less than 10 *.txt files, all of which,
seemed to have been deleted willingly by me some time ago. Subsequent
extraction attempts proved to be just as hopeless.

So what am I to do now? What's the next step that you would recommend I
take--an alternate attempt, a completely different approach, something

else

entirely, perhaps? I'm open to suggestions. And if its over for me and

the

lost files, what would you say I ought to do at this point as I've read

a

few of your earlier recommendations? New OE6 id? Better e-mail
client...would Outlook 2003 be best contender? (Which is the best
client

for

e-mail storage/retrieval?) If I CANNOT get the files back, should I at

least

rename all files whose filenames have a number appended to them (e.g.

"My

Folder (1).dbx" -- "My Folder.dbx"? What about backing up OE? Suing
the
pants off Microsoft or my anti-virus provider? Like I said, I'm open to

your

expert advice.

One more thing I forgot to add that may explain for the initial

corruption.

Some of the me-created folders in my OE6 carry names that have spaces

and/or

parenthesis and/or periods and/or slashes. Some examples:

"My Work"
"Stuff (online IDs)"
"TVGuide.com"
"News/Entertainment"

Would you say this (non-alpha-numerical characters) has any bearing on

my

current situation with OE corruption? I await you answers, gentlemen. I

just

hope its not a failed mission for me and that the files are still
recoverable.

Sincerely,

T. Abdullin


"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...


All I can suggest is make sure you read the instructions on using

DBXpress

at the site: www.oehelp.com and make sure you print them out for

reference.


Until you run the program, the contents of the DBX files are in
question
since no one knows what's in them. I hope you find your missing

messages

and the only advice I could give you would be to always backup your
essential files, including your DBX files in your message store folder

to

another location (or to removeable media) for safety sake. Good luck

and

let us know how things turn out.

One other cause of damage to DBX files is often using an antivirus

product

to scan incoming email. Early versions of McAffee were notorious for
destroying stored messages (and without hope of recovery) and there is

some


hope that they've fixed it in their newer versions but I won't allow

McAffee


anywhere near any computer I own or service. Recent versions of
Norton

are


almost as bad as getting a virus, but I recognize the need for
antivirus
protection and am dismayed that those two products have created so
many
problems for their users.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply only to newsgroup.


"Timur Abdullin" wrote in message
...


Hello Jim,

To update you on my situation, I just found out something odd that
somewhat
goes against what you said about corrupted *.dbx files having appende
d
numbers. (Read up on the INITIAL post of this thread.) I found out
that
the
corrupted folder, because of which I had turned to this newsgroup for
answers, had NOT been tagged with a "(*)"-format number! But I know
for

a


fact that it contained e-mails!! Where's the number (the indicator of
corruption) and where are my 30-some e-mails? What's going on?

And , FYI, the other folders I talked about in the beginning post, it
seems,
were corrupted much earlier and only later, when one folder (the
recent
center of my attention) suddenly emptied out, did I learn of OE's
corrupt-ability. Also, I got DBXpress just today and am waiting for

your

reply so I could begin the recovery process.

-TA



--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply to newsgroup only.

You should only run DBXpress on a copy of the DBX files, not on those in
your existing message store. What you are trying to do may well damage
other files and I'd stop it immediately. Make a copy of all DBX files you
want to run DBXpress on and move them to a folder on your Desktop and put
DBXpress in that same folder. Create another folder to contain the
extracted files. I hope you have not destroyed your message store files
already. Please be careful and only work with copies.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply only to newsgroup.


"Timur Abdullin" wrote in message
...
I ran DBXpress this time without the RECOVERY option set (all other boxes
were checked) and the results were significantly better. This time I got
*.eml files and a bit of *txt files. But oddly enough--and I think this
complicates things--a folder whose name contains parenthesis (e.g. "Folder
(items).dbx" that I put in its name when I was first naming it all of a
sudden became empty. Here's my analysis of this: since OE6 generates a new
folder upon the removal from its own folder, a new folder DID get
generated
but since could not be named with parenthesis (since I already used them
for
my own naming convenience), it just overwrote the "Folder (items).dbx" and
therefore replaced its contents with emptiness. What's your look on this?
And what else should I do?

-TA

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Yes. Run it but not in Recover mode.

--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply to newsgroup only.

Timur Abdullin wrote:

Sure, but I have DBXpress. Do you mean try DBXpress?

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...

Try DBXtract again on the folder and this time, do not use Recover
mode.

Timur Abdullin wrote:

Greetings to everyone,

Have all my efforts been for nothing? Have my postings and attempts to
understand the naturally-corruptible OE6 been in vain without much

success?

I don't really know as I try to evaluate the results of the extracted

items

from supposedly corrupted folders via DBXpress. The situation seems

bleak to

me. But I shall present to you the results nonetheless for your own
evaluation.

Today I have successfully used DBXpress and had even some fun at it

because

of its clean, easy interface. However to my disappointment, when all
the
boxes were checked prior to extraction, the process yielded less than
satisfactory results. I'm not blaming the program here but perhaps

myself

for not taking action sooner--for taking too long to stop and think.
Extraction only managed to get less than 10 *.txt files, all of which,
seemed to have been deleted willingly by me some time ago. Subsequent
extraction attempts proved to be just as hopeless.

So what am I to do now? What's the next step that you would recommend
I
take--an alternate attempt, a completely different approach, something

else

entirely, perhaps? I'm open to suggestions. And if its over for me and

the

lost files, what would you say I ought to do at this point as I've
read

a

few of your earlier recommendations? New OE6 id? Better e-mail
client...would Outlook 2003 be best contender? (Which is the best
client

for

e-mail storage/retrieval?) If I CANNOT get the files back, should I at

least

rename all files whose filenames have a number appended to them (e.g.

"My

Folder (1).dbx" -- "My Folder.dbx"? What about backing up OE? Suing
the
pants off Microsoft or my anti-virus provider? Like I said, I'm open
to

your

expert advice.

One more thing I forgot to add that may explain for the initial

corruption.

Some of the me-created folders in my OE6 carry names that have spaces

and/or

parenthesis and/or periods and/or slashes. Some examples:

"My Work"
"Stuff (online IDs)"
"TVGuide.com"
"News/Entertainment"

Would you say this (non-alpha-numerical characters) has any bearing on

my

current situation with OE corruption? I await you answers, gentlemen.
I

just

hope its not a failed mission for me and that the files are still
recoverable.

Sincerely,

T. Abdullin


"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...


All I can suggest is make sure you read the instructions on using

DBXpress

at the site: www.oehelp.com and make sure you print them out for

reference.


Until you run the program, the contents of the DBX files are in
question
since no one knows what's in them. I hope you find your missing

messages

and the only advice I could give you would be to always backup your
essential files, including your DBX files in your message store
folder

to

another location (or to removeable media) for safety sake. Good luck

and

let us know how things turn out.

One other cause of damage to DBX files is often using an antivirus

product

to scan incoming email. Early versions of McAffee were notorious for
destroying stored messages (and without hope of recovery) and there
is

some


hope that they've fixed it in their newer versions but I won't allow

McAffee


anywhere near any computer I own or service. Recent versions of
Norton

are


almost as bad as getting a virus, but I recognize the need for
antivirus
protection and am dismayed that those two products have created so
many
problems for their users.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply only to newsgroup.


"Timur Abdullin" wrote in message
...


Hello Jim,

To update you on my situation, I just found out something odd that
somewhat
goes against what you said about corrupted *.dbx files having
appende
d
numbers. (Read up on the INITIAL post of this thread.) I found out
that
the
corrupted folder, because of which I had turned to this newsgroup
for
answers, had NOT been tagged with a "(*)"-format number! But I know
for

a


fact that it contained e-mails!! Where's the number (the indicator
of
corruption) and where are my 30-some e-mails? What's going on?

And , FYI, the other folders I talked about in the beginning post,
it
seems,
were corrupted much earlier and only later, when one folder (the
recent
center of my attention) suddenly emptied out, did I learn of OE's
corrupt-ability. Also, I got DBXpress just today and am waiting for

your

reply so I could begin the recovery process.

-TA



--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply to newsgroup only.

I read you clearly, Jim. I have followed all directions included with
DBXpress. I have selected as INPUT folder, a folder that I myself created to
store copies of files I derived from OE's original directory. As for OUTPUT,
I made a similar folder and also on the desktop. As for DBXpress, it was
installed on a whole other partition of my hard disk (1 of 2 partitions).
Only then I began to extract.

To prepare the files from which I planned to extract, I located them via
Find Files or Folders...in my Windows 98SE. From there, I individually
dragged out each file (not with cut or copy command) I wanted to extract and
put into my own folder. (OE6 should've responded to this action by replacing
the missing folder I dragged out with an empty, clean folder by the same
name. Right?) OK, I'll halt my extracting for now. Maybe I can learn
something else valuable from you and/or the MVPs.

-TA

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
You should only run DBXpress on a copy of the DBX files, not on those in
your existing message store. What you are trying to do may well damage
other files and I'd stop it immediately. Make a copy of all DBX files you
want to run DBXpress on and move them to a folder on your Desktop and put
DBXpress in that same folder. Create another folder to contain the
extracted files. I hope you have not destroyed your message store files
already. Please be careful and only work with copies.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply only to newsgroup.


"Timur Abdullin" wrote in message
...
I ran DBXpress this time without the RECOVERY option set (all other
boxes
were checked) and the results were significantly better. This time I got
*.eml files and a bit of *txt files. But oddly enough--and I think this
complicates things--a folder whose name contains parenthesis (e.g.
"Folder
(items).dbx" that I put in its name when I was first naming it all of a
sudden became empty. Here's my analysis of this: since OE6 generates a
new
folder upon the removal from its own folder, a new folder DID get
generated
but since could not be named with parenthesis (since I already used them
for
my own naming convenience), it just overwrote the "Folder (items).dbx"
and
therefore replaced its contents with emptiness. What's your look on
this?
And what else should I do?

-TA

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Yes. Run it but not in Recover mode.

--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply to newsgroup only.

Timur Abdullin wrote:

Sure, but I have DBXpress. Do you mean try DBXpress?

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...

Try DBXtract again on the folder and this time, do not use Recover
mode.

Timur Abdullin wrote:

Greetings to everyone,

Have all my efforts been for nothing? Have my postings and attempts
to
understand the naturally-corruptible OE6 been in vain without much

success?

I don't really know as I try to evaluate the results of the
extracted

items

from supposedly corrupted folders via DBXpress. The situation seems

bleak to

me. But I shall present to you the results nonetheless for your own
evaluation.

Today I have successfully used DBXpress and had even some fun at it

because

of its clean, easy interface. However to my disappointment, when all
the
boxes were checked prior to extraction, the process yielded less
than
satisfactory results. I'm not blaming the program here but perhaps

myself

for not taking action sooner--for taking too long to stop and think.
Extraction only managed to get less than 10 *.txt files, all of
which,
seemed to have been deleted willingly by me some time ago.
Subsequent
extraction attempts proved to be just as hopeless.

So what am I to do now? What's the next step that you would
recommend
I
take--an alternate attempt, a completely different approach,
something

else

entirely, perhaps? I'm open to suggestions. And if its over for me
and

the

lost files, what would you say I ought to do at this point as I've
read

a

few of your earlier recommendations? New OE6 id? Better e-mail
client...would Outlook 2003 be best contender? (Which is the best
client

for

e-mail storage/retrieval?) If I CANNOT get the files back, should I
at

least

rename all files whose filenames have a number appended to them
(e.g.

"My

Folder (1).dbx" -- "My Folder.dbx"? What about backing up OE? Suing
the
pants off Microsoft or my anti-virus provider? Like I said, I'm open
to

your

expert advice.

One more thing I forgot to add that may explain for the initial

corruption.

Some of the me-created folders in my OE6 carry names that have
spaces

and/or

parenthesis and/or periods and/or slashes. Some examples:

"My Work"
"Stuff (online IDs)"
"TVGuide.com"
"News/Entertainment"

Would you say this (non-alpha-numerical characters) has any bearing
on

my

current situation with OE corruption? I await you answers,
gentlemen.
I

just

hope its not a failed mission for me and that the files are still
recoverable.

Sincerely,

T. Abdullin


"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...


All I can suggest is make sure you read the instructions on using

DBXpress

at the site: www.oehelp.com and make sure you print them out for

reference.


Until you run the program, the contents of the DBX files are in
question
since no one knows what's in them. I hope you find your missing

messages

and the only advice I could give you would be to always backup your
essential files, including your DBX files in your message store
folder

to

another location (or to removeable media) for safety sake. Good
luck

and

let us know how things turn out.

One other cause of damage to DBX files is often using an antivirus

product

to scan incoming email. Early versions of McAffee were notorious
for
destroying stored messages (and without hope of recovery) and there
is

some


hope that they've fixed it in their newer versions but I won't
allow

McAffee


anywhere near any computer I own or service. Recent versions of
Norton

are


almost as bad as getting a virus, but I recognize the need for
antivirus
protection and am dismayed that those two products have created so
many
problems for their users.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply only to newsgroup.


"Timur Abdullin" wrote in message
...


Hello Jim,

To update you on my situation, I just found out something odd that
somewhat
goes against what you said about corrupted *.dbx files having
appende
d
numbers. (Read up on the INITIAL post of this thread.) I found out
that
the
corrupted folder, because of which I had turned to this newsgroup
for
answers, had NOT been tagged with a "(*)"-format number! But I
know
for

a


fact that it contained e-mails!! Where's the number (the indicator
of
corruption) and where are my 30-some e-mails? What's going on?

And , FYI, the other folders I talked about in the beginning post,
it
seems,
were corrupted much earlier and only later, when one folder (the
recent
center of my attention) suddenly emptied out, did I learn of OE's
corrupt-ability. Also, I got DBXpress just today and am waiting
for

your

reply so I could begin the recovery process.

-TA



--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express
Please reply to newsgroup only.