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I've seen two-finger "hunt and peck" typists (journalists, especially) who
could type that way faster than I can touch-type, though if you have to look at the keyboard (and most accomplished hunt-and-peckers don't), then you're limited to composing rather than typing from handwritten or printed copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "The DixieFlatline" wrote in message news Eastern? I think not. I'm a tad over 100 miles west of Greenwich, a bit more by road. The Dixie Flattline is a character in Neuromancer by William Gibson. To cut a long story short, he is dead and lives only in a computer. I was house-bound for a fair while and almost lived on the internet, so it seemed an appropriate nickname. Guess you're right about the disadvantages outweighing the advantages the speech mark thing. Yes, I do manage to stumble along with ten fingers (is "stumble the right word, when applied to fingers? hmm...) but as soon as I need to pick up the pace, or get interested in what I'm doing, I forget and regress to the faster two fingers. Ah well, Any Road ... as George Harrison might have said. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Jul 15, 5:09 am, The DixieFlatline wrote: My schooling was many years ago, but I did come away with an o-level in Aha! You're in the Eastern Hemisphere! (Then why call yourself "Dixie"?) English Language. One thing we were taught was that there's times and places when absolutely correct speech is needed, and others when insistance on it was merely pedantry. (Polite cough.) It's odd to have encountered that enlightened attitude "many years ago" -- unless your use of "many" is a lot smaller than mine! There was a huge furore over here when the "descriptivist" Third International Dictionary was publlished by Merriam-Webster in 1961. Yes, I know there's cases where it is/isn't capitalized, but it's _always_ capitalized after a full stop, exclamation- or question-mark, which is why I wondered whether I'd missed something in settings to turn it on; it seemed a small point. It's easier to type a capital than to uncapitalize a wrongly capitalized letter. I've tried to learn the old ten-finger business, but I'm afraid too many years of bad habits have got in the way. My ten finger typing is ever worse, and slower than, my two finger typing lol It just takes a little practice (using basic exercises). "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Curious. When and where was your school? I can certainly come up with examples where the first word inside the quotation marks is capitalized even if the quotation doesn't follow a period (or question mark or exclamation point). It really isn't hard to tearn to type with ten fingers. Any secondhand bookstore will have old typing manuals (you don't need a computer program!), and if you practice the first few lessons for maybe 20 minutes a day, over a week or so, you'll be amazed what you can accomplish. (Don't be frightened by how thick the book is -- mostly they're teaching secretaries how to format business letters and such.) On Jul 14, 10:02 pm, The DixieFlatline wrote: If it follows a full stop, it's a new sentence. I know it's only a slight annoyance, but with my slow two-fingered typing any aid is a comfort. BTW I was taught at school that the terms "speech mark" and "quotation mark" are interchangeable; one is technical usage, the other more informal. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: "It would be impossible," Peter might have written, "for a mere word processing program to determine when and when not to capitalize a letter after a quotation mark." I used the word "impossible" once in that sentence. On Jul 14, 8:01 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote: The auto capitalization (apparently) cannot deal with all possible situations. But, as Peter wrote, since you have to press Shift anyway to insert the quotation mark, manual capitalization will be very easy in this case. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "The DixieFlatline" The wrote in ... I've noticed that in Word, if a sentence starts with a speech mark, ie "How are you?" Word will not capitalize the first letter of the sentence. Is there a way to make it do so?--- |
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Half 'n' half. for most oft the time I don't have to look at the keyboard,
but long-ingrained habit means that I tend to. It does tend to slow me down a bit when copying, but I seem to cope. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've seen two-finger "hunt and peck" typists (journalists, especially) who could type that way faster than I can touch-type, though if you have to look at the keyboard (and most accomplished hunt-and-peckers don't), then you're limited to composing rather than typing from handwritten or printed copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "The DixieFlatline" wrote in message news Eastern? I think not. I'm a tad over 100 miles west of Greenwich, a bit more by road. The Dixie Flattline is a character in Neuromancer by William Gibson. To cut a long story short, he is dead and lives only in a computer. I was house-bound for a fair while and almost lived on the internet, so it seemed an appropriate nickname. Guess you're right about the disadvantages outweighing the advantages the speech mark thing. Yes, I do manage to stumble along with ten fingers (is "stumble the right word, when applied to fingers? hmm...) but as soon as I need to pick up the pace, or get interested in what I'm doing, I forget and regress to the faster two fingers. Ah well, Any Road ... as George Harrison might have said. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Jul 15, 5:09 am, The DixieFlatline wrote: My schooling was many years ago, but I did come away with an o-level in Aha! You're in the Eastern Hemisphere! (Then why call yourself "Dixie"?) English Language. One thing we were taught was that there's times and places when absolutely correct speech is needed, and others when insistance on it was merely pedantry. (Polite cough.) It's odd to have encountered that enlightened attitude "many years ago" -- unless your use of "many" is a lot smaller than mine! There was a huge furore over here when the "descriptivist" Third International Dictionary was publlished by Merriam-Webster in 1961. Yes, I know there's cases where it is/isn't capitalized, but it's _always_ capitalized after a full stop, exclamation- or question-mark, which is why I wondered whether I'd missed something in settings to turn it on; it seemed a small point. It's easier to type a capital than to uncapitalize a wrongly capitalized letter. I've tried to learn the old ten-finger business, but I'm afraid too many years of bad habits have got in the way. My ten finger typing is ever worse, and slower than, my two finger typing lol It just takes a little practice (using basic exercises). "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Curious. When and where was your school? I can certainly come up with examples where the first word inside the quotation marks is capitalized even if the quotation doesn't follow a period (or question mark or exclamation point). It really isn't hard to tearn to type with ten fingers. Any secondhand bookstore will have old typing manuals (you don't need a computer program!), and if you practice the first few lessons for maybe 20 minutes a day, over a week or so, you'll be amazed what you can accomplish. (Don't be frightened by how thick the book is -- mostly they're teaching secretaries how to format business letters and such.) On Jul 14, 10:02 pm, The DixieFlatline wrote: If it follows a full stop, it's a new sentence. I know it's only a slight annoyance, but with my slow two-fingered typing any aid is a comfort. BTW I was taught at school that the terms "speech mark" and "quotation mark" are interchangeable; one is technical usage, the other more informal. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: "It would be impossible," Peter might have written, "for a mere word processing program to determine when and when not to capitalize a letter after a quotation mark." I used the word "impossible" once in that sentence. On Jul 14, 8:01 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote: The auto capitalization (apparently) cannot deal with all possible situations. But, as Peter wrote, since you have to press Shift anyway to insert the quotation mark, manual capitalization will be very easy in this case. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "The DixieFlatline" The wrote in ... I've noticed that in Word, if a sentence starts with a speech mark, ie "How are you?" Word will not capitalize the first letter of the sentence. Is there a way to make it do so?--- |
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I have the same issue with touch-typing. I don't look at the keyboard, but I
do look at the typing I'm producing (on screen now, formerly on paper with a typewriter). Although I can type perfectly well without looking at the screen (while looking at copy), it makes me very nervous for some reason. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "The DixieFlatline" wrote in message ... Half 'n' half. for most oft the time I don't have to look at the keyboard, but long-ingrained habit means that I tend to. It does tend to slow me down a bit when copying, but I seem to cope. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've seen two-finger "hunt and peck" typists (journalists, especially) who could type that way faster than I can touch-type, though if you have to look at the keyboard (and most accomplished hunt-and-peckers don't), then you're limited to composing rather than typing from handwritten or printed copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "The DixieFlatline" wrote in message news Eastern? I think not. I'm a tad over 100 miles west of Greenwich, a bit more by road. The Dixie Flattline is a character in Neuromancer by William Gibson. To cut a long story short, he is dead and lives only in a computer. I was house-bound for a fair while and almost lived on the internet, so it seemed an appropriate nickname. Guess you're right about the disadvantages outweighing the advantages the speech mark thing. Yes, I do manage to stumble along with ten fingers (is "stumble the right word, when applied to fingers? hmm...) but as soon as I need to pick up the pace, or get interested in what I'm doing, I forget and regress to the faster two fingers. Ah well, Any Road ... as George Harrison might have said. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Jul 15, 5:09 am, The DixieFlatline wrote: My schooling was many years ago, but I did come away with an o-level in Aha! You're in the Eastern Hemisphere! (Then why call yourself "Dixie"?) English Language. One thing we were taught was that there's times and places when absolutely correct speech is needed, and others when insistance on it was merely pedantry. (Polite cough.) It's odd to have encountered that enlightened attitude "many years ago" -- unless your use of "many" is a lot smaller than mine! There was a huge furore over here when the "descriptivist" Third International Dictionary was publlished by Merriam-Webster in 1961. Yes, I know there's cases where it is/isn't capitalized, but it's _always_ capitalized after a full stop, exclamation- or question-mark, which is why I wondered whether I'd missed something in settings to turn it on; it seemed a small point. It's easier to type a capital than to uncapitalize a wrongly capitalized letter. I've tried to learn the old ten-finger business, but I'm afraid too many years of bad habits have got in the way. My ten finger typing is ever worse, and slower than, my two finger typing lol It just takes a little practice (using basic exercises). "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Curious. When and where was your school? I can certainly come up with examples where the first word inside the quotation marks is capitalized even if the quotation doesn't follow a period (or question mark or exclamation point). It really isn't hard to tearn to type with ten fingers. Any secondhand bookstore will have old typing manuals (you don't need a computer program!), and if you practice the first few lessons for maybe 20 minutes a day, over a week or so, you'll be amazed what you can accomplish. (Don't be frightened by how thick the book is -- mostly they're teaching secretaries how to format business letters and such.) On Jul 14, 10:02 pm, The DixieFlatline wrote: If it follows a full stop, it's a new sentence. I know it's only a slight annoyance, but with my slow two-fingered typing any aid is a comfort. BTW I was taught at school that the terms "speech mark" and "quotation mark" are interchangeable; one is technical usage, the other more informal. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: "It would be impossible," Peter might have written, "for a mere word processing program to determine when and when not to capitalize a letter after a quotation mark." I used the word "impossible" once in that sentence. On Jul 14, 8:01 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote: The auto capitalization (apparently) cannot deal with all possible situations. But, as Peter wrote, since you have to press Shift anyway to insert the quotation mark, manual capitalization will be very easy in this case. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "The DixieFlatline" The wrote in ... I've noticed that in Word, if a sentence starts with a speech mark, ie "How are you?" Word will not capitalize the first letter of the sentence. Is there a way to make it do so?--- |
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Would "Old World" be better?
I stopped reading SF cold turkey when Heinlein became a hippie (a right-wing hippie, no less) -- I even tried Neuromancer because it was so highly acclaimed but couldn't get even a few pages into it. On Jul 15, 11:20*am, The DixieFlatline wrote: Eastern? I think not. I'm a tad over 100 miles west of Greenwich, a bit more by road. The Dixie Flattline is a character in Neuromancer by William Gibson. To cut a long story short, he is dead and lives only in a computer. I was house-bound for a fair while and almost lived on the internet, so it seemed an appropriate nickname. Guess you're right about the disadvantages outweighing the advantages the speech mark thing. Yes, I do manage to stumble along with ten fingers (is "stumble the right word, when applied to fingers? hmm...) but as soon as I need to pick up the pace, or get interested in what I'm doing, I forget and regress to the faster two fingers. Ah well, Any Road ... as George Harrison might have said. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Jul 15, 5:09 am, The DixieFlatline wrote: My schooling was many years ago, but I did come away with an o-level in Aha! You're in the Eastern Hemisphere! (Then why call yourself "Dixie"?) English Language. One thing we were taught was that there's times and places when absolutely correct speech is needed, and others when insistance on it was merely pedantry. (Polite cough.) It's odd to have encountered that enlightened attitude "many years ago" -- unless your use of "many" is a lot smaller than mine! There was a huge furore over here when the "descriptivist" Third International Dictionary was publlished by Merriam-Webster in 1961. Yes, I know there's cases where it is/isn't capitalized, but it's _always_ capitalized after a full stop, exclamation- or question-mark, which is why I wondered whether I'd missed something in settings to turn it on; it seemed a small point. It's easier to type a capital than to uncapitalize a wrongly capitalized letter. I've tried to learn the old ten-finger business, but I'm afraid too many years of bad habits have got in the way. My ten finger typing is ever worse, and slower than, my two finger typing lol It just takes a little practice (using basic exercises). "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Curious. When and where was your school? I can certainly come up with examples where the first word inside the quotation marks is capitalized even if the quotation doesn't follow a period (or question mark or exclamation point). It really isn't hard to tearn to type with ten fingers. Any secondhand bookstore will have old typing manuals (you don't need a computer program!), and if you practice the first few lessons for maybe 20 minutes a day, over a week or so, you'll be amazed what you can accomplish. (Don't be frightened by how thick the book is -- mostly they're teaching secretaries how to format business letters and such.) On Jul 14, 10:02 pm, The DixieFlatline wrote: If it follows a full stop, it's a new sentence. I know it's only a slight annoyance, but with my slow two-fingered typing any aid is a comfort. BTW I was taught at school that the terms "speech mark" and "quotation mark" are interchangeable; one is technical usage, the other more informal. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: "It would be impossible," Peter might have written, "for a mere word processing program to determine when and when not to capitalize a letter after a quotation mark." I used the word "impossible" once in that sentence. On Jul 14, 8:01 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote: The auto capitalization (apparently) cannot deal with all possible situations. But, as Peter wrote, since you have to press Shift anyway to insert the quotation mark, manual capitalization will be very easy in this case. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "The DixieFlatline" The wrote in ... I've noticed that in Word, if a sentence starts with a speech mark, ie "How are you?" *Word will not capitalize the first letter of the sentence. Is there a way to make it do so?---- |
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I was the same with Neuromancer, but owning an unread book is almost like
tooth-ache with me, I just can't leave it be, and the second time I tried it I loved it, lord knows why; maybe I was just in a more receptive mood. I must have been desperate for something to read, if I picked up a book I'd not liked the firsdt time around. Yes, Heinlein went a bit (or a lot) odd. His early stuff is still some of the best S-F ever written though. I'm so glad you called it S-F not sci-fi ... Old World eh? I take it you're one of those damned colonial revolutionary chappies then? Eh, what? "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Would "Old World" be better? I stopped reading SF cold turkey when Heinlein became a hippie (a right-wing hippie, no less) -- I even tried Neuromancer because it was so highly acclaimed but couldn't get even a few pages into it. On Jul 15, 11:20 am, The DixieFlatline wrote: Eastern? I think not. I'm a tad over 100 miles west of Greenwich, a bit more by road. The Dixie Flattline is a character in Neuromancer by William Gibson. To cut a long story short, he is dead and lives only in a computer. I was house-bound for a fair while and almost lived on the internet, so it seemed an appropriate nickname. Guess you're right about the disadvantages outweighing the advantages the speech mark thing. Yes, I do manage to stumble along with ten fingers (is "stumble the right word, when applied to fingers? hmm...) but as soon as I need to pick up the pace, or get interested in what I'm doing, I forget and regress to the faster two fingers. Ah well, Any Road ... as George Harrison might have said. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Jul 15, 5:09 am, The DixieFlatline wrote: My schooling was many years ago, but I did come away with an o-level in Aha! You're in the Eastern Hemisphere! (Then why call yourself "Dixie"?) English Language. One thing we were taught was that there's times and places when absolutely correct speech is needed, and others when insistance on it was merely pedantry. (Polite cough.) It's odd to have encountered that enlightened attitude "many years ago" -- unless your use of "many" is a lot smaller than mine! There was a huge furore over here when the "descriptivist" Third International Dictionary was publlished by Merriam-Webster in 1961. Yes, I know there's cases where it is/isn't capitalized, but it's _always_ capitalized after a full stop, exclamation- or question-mark, which is why I wondered whether I'd missed something in settings to turn it on; it seemed a small point. It's easier to type a capital than to uncapitalize a wrongly capitalized letter. I've tried to learn the old ten-finger business, but I'm afraid too many years of bad habits have got in the way. My ten finger typing is ever worse, and slower than, my two finger typing lol It just takes a little practice (using basic exercises). "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Curious. When and where was your school? I can certainly come up with examples where the first word inside the quotation marks is capitalized even if the quotation doesn't follow a period (or question mark or exclamation point). It really isn't hard to tearn to type with ten fingers. Any secondhand bookstore will have old typing manuals (you don't need a computer program!), and if you practice the first few lessons for maybe 20 minutes a day, over a week or so, you'll be amazed what you can accomplish. (Don't be frightened by how thick the book is -- mostly they're teaching secretaries how to format business letters and such.) On Jul 14, 10:02 pm, The DixieFlatline wrote: If it follows a full stop, it's a new sentence. I know it's only a slight annoyance, but with my slow two-fingered typing any aid is a comfort. BTW I was taught at school that the terms "speech mark" and "quotation mark" are interchangeable; one is technical usage, the other more informal. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: "It would be impossible," Peter might have written, "for a mere word processing program to determine when and when not to capitalize a letter after a quotation mark." I used the word "impossible" once in that sentence. On Jul 14, 8:01 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote: The auto capitalization (apparently) cannot deal with all possible situations. But, as Peter wrote, since you have to press Shift anyway to insert the quotation mark, manual capitalization will be very easy in this case. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "The DixieFlatline" The wrote in ... I've noticed that in Word, if a sentence starts with a speech mark, ie "How are you?" Word will not capitalize the first letter of the sentence. Is there a way to make it do so?---- |
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You would diss the land that gave you just about every great SF writer
in the canon? I was getting Asimov and Heinlein from the Young Adults section of the library when I was 5. On Jul 16, 5:16*pm, The DixieFlatline wrote: I was the same with Neuromancer, but owning an unread book is almost like tooth-ache with me, I just can't leave it be, and the second time I tried it I loved it, lord knows why; maybe I was just in a more receptive mood. I must have been desperate for something to read, if I picked up a book I'd not liked the firsdt time around. Yes, Heinlein went a bit (or a lot) odd. His early stuff is still some of the best S-F ever written though. I'm so glad you called it S-F not sci-fi ... *Old World eh? I take it you're one of those damned colonial revolutionary chappies then? Eh, what? "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Would "Old World" be better? I stopped reading SF cold turkey when Heinlein became a hippie (a right-wing hippie, no less) -- I even tried Neuromancer because it was so highly acclaimed but couldn't get even a few pages into it. |
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Good point, re the writers. I did go to the same school as a certain Mr
Clarke, though, albeit a few years later and in a different building ... 5? You started early. My first novel was a Biggles, aged about 6 or 7. First SF would have been Andre Norton or Hugh Walters. I definitely remember my first Heinlein though - Starman Jones, probably followed by my Dad's collection of Asimov and Clarke. I also remember the librarian letting me use the adult ibrary two years early, to borrow the Stainless Steel Rat novels and the Lensmen series. Ah, the golden years of youth ... "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: You would diss the land that gave you just about every great SF writer in the canon? I was getting Asimov and Heinlein from the Young Adults section of the library when I was 5. On Jul 16, 5:16 pm, The DixieFlatline wrote: I was the same with Neuromancer, but owning an unread book is almost like tooth-ache with me, I just can't leave it be, and the second time I tried it I loved it, lord knows why; maybe I was just in a more receptive mood. I must have been desperate for something to read, if I picked up a book I'd not liked the firsdt time around. Yes, Heinlein went a bit (or a lot) odd. His early stuff is still some of the best S-F ever written though. I'm so glad you called it S-F not sci-fi ... Old World eh? I take it you're one of those damned colonial revolutionary chappies then? Eh, what? "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Would "Old World" be better? I stopped reading SF cold turkey when Heinlein became a hippie (a right-wing hippie, no less) -- I even tried Neuromancer because it was so highly acclaimed but couldn't get even a few pages into it. |
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I meant to mention ...
If you stopped reading SF when Heinein went odd, you've missed all of Iain M Banks' work. It might tempt you back ... (Incomplete sentences, a habit I picked up from Arthur C Clarke ...) |
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Nothing wrong with incomplete sentences.
I don't know who Biggles, Walters, Stainless Steel Rat, or Banks are. I don't think I read (though I did buy) Asimov's last two or three novels. I had already discovered that he is unrereadable -- he provided story, not style -- and his ego and sexism the several times I met him or saw him on TV were awfully offputting. I did ask him why he had never written anything on linguistics (my field), and he did say he had to know something about a topic before he wrote about it ... and I always regretted that I didn't think of asking how he kept up on current research in his fields (since he was notoriously reclusive). He went to P D Q Bach concerts and G & S Society meetings, and to SF conventions if they didn't require flying. Is Lensmen the Doc Smith series? I did try him once, because Asimov said he was so important, but he was more like Agatha Christie: didn't play fair with the reader. Isn't John Brunner English also? And John Wyndham. On Jul 17, 6:46*am, The DixieFlatline wrote: *I meant to mention ... If you stopped reading SF when Heinein went odd, you've missed all of Iain M Banks' work. It *might tempt you back ... (Incomplete sentences, a habit I picked up from Arthur C Clarke ...) |
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Biggles was a Flying Ace type. Hugh Walters wrote basically the same sort of
thig, but set in space, and to be honest I can't remember a single plot, but I loved 'em at the time. The SSR was a Harry Harrison series of novels, since "sequalled" to death andDoc Smith's lensmen is definitley only readable until about the age of 15, tops, even if they're not actually classed as juveniles. Banks is sort of space-opera for adults, galactic in scope but without all the empire and blue-jawed heroics. He's written some good none-genre novels as well, under the same name but minus the middle initial. I seem to remember reading somewhere that Asimov had a near eidic memory and was a very fast reader. Yep! Both were English, Eric Frank Russel, too; another oft passed-over great. It's odd, I can think of English, Scottish and Irish SF writers, but no Welsh. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Nothing wrong with incomplete sentences. I don't know who Biggles, Walters, Stainless Steel Rat, or Banks are. I don't think I read (though I did buy) Asimov's last two or three novels. I had already discovered that he is unrereadable -- he provided story, not style -- and his ego and sexism the several times I met him or saw him on TV were awfully offputting. I did ask him why he had never written anything on linguistics (my field), and he did say he had to know something about a topic before he wrote about it ... and I always regretted that I didn't think of asking how he kept up on current research in his fields (since he was notoriously reclusive). He went to P D Q Bach concerts and G & S Society meetings, and to SF conventions if they didn't require flying. Is Lensmen the Doc Smith series? I did try him once, because Asimov said he was so important, but he was more like Agatha Christie: didn't play fair with the reader. Isn't John Brunner English also? And John Wyndham. On Jul 17, 6:46 am, The DixieFlatline wrote: I meant to mention ... If you stopped reading SF when Heinein went odd, you've missed all of Iain M Banks' work. It might tempt you back ... (Incomplete sentences, a habit I picked up from Arthur C Clarke ...) |
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