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May 28th, 2008, 07:20 PM
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"Failed to Initialize the Modeling Engine" message
ERROR - "Failed to Initialize the Modeling Engine"
I get this message whenever I open a VSD file that is a database model. I can open flowchart VSD files ok. Does anyone know the reason why? I did look in Help and found no reference to this message. I cannot find Visio on my PC but I was able to create flowcharts and modeling diagrams before by going to a PC that does have Visio, creating the file and then modifying it on my own PC. Thanks. 
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May 28th, 2008, 07:35 PM
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"Failed to Initialize the Modeling Engine" message
the database modeling tool is one of the addins that comes with the
professional/ea versions of visio. It requires code to be installed on the system that is acting upon the model. Being able to do flowcharts doesn't infer being able to do db modeling. al "mscertified" wrote in message ... ERROR - "Failed to Initialize the Modeling Engine" I get this message whenever I open a VSD file that is a database model. I can open flowchart VSD files ok. Does anyone know the reason why? I did look in Help and found no reference to this message. I cannot find Visio on my PC but I was able to create flowcharts and modeling diagrams before by going to a PC that does have Visio, creating the file and then modifying it on my own PC. Thanks.
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May 28th, 2008, 08:53 PM
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"Failed to Initialize the Modeling Engine" message
This is a response from Microsoft to this problem a while ago...
By the way - our testing so far shows that the problem is occurring when installing the MS08-019 update on Visio 2003 SP2. If you then update to SP3, you should be okay. Similarly, if you have SP3 and apply the security update, the problem doesn't occur as well. It seems to only happen with Visio 2003 SP2 and the security update. Barb Way Product Support - Visio Microsoft Corporation [This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no rights.] "mscertified" wrote in message ... ERROR - "Failed to Initialize the Modeling Engine" I get this message whenever I open a VSD file that is a database model. I can open flowchart VSD files ok. Does anyone know the reason why? I did look in Help and found no reference to this message. I cannot find Visio on my PC but I was able to create flowcharts and modeling diagrams before by going to a PC that does have Visio, creating the file and then modifying it on my own PC. Thanks. -- David Parker Microsoft MVP (Visio) http://bvisual.spaces.live.com http://www.visualizinginformation.com
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June 13th, 2008, 09:15 AM
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"Failed to Initialize the Modeling Engine" message
I have Visio for Enterprise Architects SP3 (11.8207.8202).
I am also getting this very problem - failed to initialize the modelling engine whenever I try to create or open a database diagram.
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July 7th, 2008, 12:31 PM
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"Failed to Initialize the Modeling Engine" message
I have Visio 2003 SP3 and the MS08-019 (KB947650) update installed on my PC
and I am getting this error message as well. "David Parker" wrote: This is a response from Microsoft to this problem a while ago... By the way - our testing so far shows that the problem is occurring when installing the MS08-019 update on Visio 2003 SP2. If you then update to SP3, you should be okay. Similarly, if you have SP3 and apply the security update, the problem doesn't occur as well. It seems to only happen with Visio 2003 SP2 and the security update. Barb Way Product Support - Visio Microsoft Corporation [This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no rights.] "mscertified" wrote in message ... ERROR - "Failed to Initialize the Modeling Engine" I get this message whenever I open a VSD file that is a database model. I can open flowchart VSD files ok. Does anyone know the reason why? I did look in Help and found no reference to this message. I cannot find Visio on my PC but I was able to create flowcharts and modeling diagrams before by going to a PC that does have Visio, creating the file and then modifying it on my own PC. Thanks. -- David Parker Microsoft MVP (Visio) http://bvisual.spaces.live.com http://www.visualizinginformation.com
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September 9th, 2008, 03:46 PM
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Visio object model fail
We have Visio SP@ (11.8207.8202) SP3 with the KB947650 and I get the Errpr: Failed to initialise modelling engine when opening both the Database Model Diagram (Metric and US units) and I have opened them from the C drive 1033 folder and get the same issue - any further progress on this? MY whole organisation is getting it.
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October 9th, 2008, 10:47 AM
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"Failed to Initialize the Modeling Engine" message
I installed SP3, all security updates and i'm getting the same error... some
more hints? thank you -- Sandro "David Parker" wrote: This is a response from Microsoft to this problem a while ago... By the way - our testing so far shows that the problem is occurring when installing the MS08-019 update on Visio 2003 SP2. If you then update to SP3, you should be okay. Similarly, if you have SP3 and apply the security update, the problem doesn't occur as well. It seems to only happen with Visio 2003 SP2 and the security update. Barb Way Product Support - Visio Microsoft Corporation [This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no rights.] "mscertified" wrote in message ... ERROR - "Failed to Initialize the Modeling Engine" I get this message whenever I open a VSD file that is a database model. I can open flowchart VSD files ok. Does anyone know the reason why? I did look in Help and found no reference to this message. I cannot find Visio on my PC but I was able to create flowcharts and modeling diagrams before by going to a PC that does have Visio, creating the file and then modifying it on my own PC. Thanks. -- David Parker Microsoft MVP (Visio) http://bvisual.spaces.live.com http://www.visualizinginformation.com
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October 9th, 2008, 11:35 AM
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"Failed to Initialize the Modeling Engine" message
I solved the problem just unistalling security update KB947650....
now it's woking... A suggestion to Microsoft... please next time test your update before publish it... thank you -- Sandro "David Parker" wrote: This is a response from Microsoft to this problem a while ago... By the way - our testing so far shows that the problem is occurring when installing the MS08-019 update on Visio 2003 SP2. If you then update to SP3, you should be okay. Similarly, if you have SP3 and apply the security update, the problem doesn't occur as well. It seems to only happen with Visio 2003 SP2 and the security update. Barb Way Product Support - Visio Microsoft Corporation [This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no rights.] "mscertified" wrote in message ... ERROR - "Failed to Initialize the Modeling Engine" I get this message whenever I open a VSD file that is a database model. I can open flowchart VSD files ok. Does anyone know the reason why? I did look in Help and found no reference to this message. I cannot find Visio on my PC but I was able to create flowcharts and modeling diagrams before by going to a PC that does have Visio, creating the file and then modifying it on my own PC. Thanks. -- David Parker Microsoft MVP (Visio) http://bvisual.spaces.live.com http://www.visualizinginformation.com
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October 15th, 2008, 09:15 PM
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"Failed to Initialize the Modeling Engine" message
For now the only way to use the Database Modeling tools with Visio 2003 SP2
or SP3 is to remove the security update (MS08-019), which be applied to either service pack level. There is development under way to create a fix for this issue, but it is not available yet. I will post an update here when something is available. Barb Way Product Support - Visio Microsoft Corporation [This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no rights.] -------------------- I installed SP3, all security updates and i'm getting the same error... some more hints? thank you -- Sandro "David Parker" wrote: This is a response from Microsoft to this problem a while ago... By the way - our testing so far shows that the problem is occurring when installing the MS08-019 update on Visio 2003 SP2. If you then update to SP3, you should be okay. Similarly, if you have SP3 and apply the security update, the problem doesn't occur as well. It seems to only happen with Visio 2003 SP2 and the security update. Barb Way Product Support - Visio Microsoft Corporation [This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no rights.] "mscertified" wrote in message ... ERROR - "Failed to Initialize the Modeling Engine" I get this message whenever I open a VSD file that is a database model. I can open flowchart VSD files ok. Does anyone know the reason why? I did look in Help and found no reference to this message. I cannot find Visio on my PC but I was able to create flowcharts and modeling diagrams before by going to a PC that does have Visio, creating the file and then modifying it on my own PC. Thanks. -- David Parker Microsoft MVP (Visio) http://bvisual.spaces.live.com http://www.visualizinginformation.com
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November 3rd, 2008, 10:02 PM
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"Failed to Initialize the Modeling Engine" message
Hello All -
A fix has been released which will resolve this issue and allow you to work with the DB Modeling solution after the installation of the security update in MS08-019. The new hotfix ID is 958641, and it is available now, but must be requested through (no-charge) support. You can review the options for making contact with the support organization on the website here : http://support.microsoft.com/contactus/?ws=support The article for the fix is : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/958641 Two items of note: This update is basedline on Visio 2003 SP3, and unless that SP level is installed, the update will not install. The article is being updated, and currently doesn't list the db modeling issue among the issues fixed. Barb Way Product Support - Visio Microsoft Corporation [This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no rights.] -------------------- For now the only way to use the Database Modeling tools with Visio 2003 SP2 or SP3 is to remove the security update (MS08-019), which be applied to either service pack level. There is development under way to create a fix for this issue, but it is not available yet. I will post an update here when something is available. Barb Way Product Support - Visio Microsoft Corporation [This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no rights.] -------------------- I installed SP3, all security updates and i'm getting the same error... some more hints? thank you -- Sandro "David Parker" wrote: This is a response from Microsoft to this problem a while ago... By the way - our testing so far shows that the problem is occurring when installing the MS08-019 update on Visio 2003 SP2. If you then update to SP3, you should be okay. Similarly, if you have SP3 and apply the security update, the problem doesn't occur as well. It seems to only happen with Visio 2003 SP2 and the security update. Barb Way Product Support - Visio Microsoft Corporation [This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no rights.] "mscertified" wrote in message ... ERROR - "Failed to Initialize the Modeling Engine" I get this message whenever I open a VSD file that is a database model. I can open flowchart VSD files ok. Does anyone know the reason why? I did look in Help and found no reference to this message. I cannot find Visio on my PC but I was able to create flowcharts and modeling diagrams before by going to a PC that does have Visio, creating the file and then modifying it on my own PC. Thanks. -- David Parker Microsoft MVP (Visio) http://bvisual.spaces.live.com http://www.visualizinginformation.com
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