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  #1  
Old May 1st, 2008, 01:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
BenMcD
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Posts: 14
Default Connecting Shapes Automatically

Hi Everyone,

I'm trying to get Visio to connect shapes automatically. The process should
be that Visio examines the 'Connected to' field of the shape, locates the
shapes in the drawing listed in this field using their Asset Number, then
draws connecting lines between the shape and it's children. So for example,
it would look at a Switch, recognise that 3 servers are connected to it,
locate these servers on the drawing, then add the connectors.

Does anyone have any ideas how this could be done? I'm thinking it's going
to be a bit of VBA, but my knowledge is limited. My eventual plan is to run a
database update, add the new shapes based on the Access records, then
automatically link and layout the shapes to produce a Network Toplogy diagram.

I'm sure it's possible, but I need advice from experts to help me out!

Thanks in advance,
Ben
  #2  
Old May 1st, 2008, 05:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
Al Edlund
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Posts: 581
Default Connecting Shapes Automatically

The easy first step is to get David Parkers book on data visualization. He
has some examples on how to do the visio portion of it. The pre-req in this
case if v2007 Pro for data linking. I usually strongly suggest that the user
consider using o2007 pro as well even though a2007 isn't required. The
skill set would be medium to strong vb(a) skills with some knowledge of
database.
If you need more help come on back,

al

"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone,

I'm trying to get Visio to connect shapes automatically. The process
should
be that Visio examines the 'Connected to' field of the shape, locates the
shapes in the drawing listed in this field using their Asset Number, then
draws connecting lines between the shape and it's children. So for
example,
it would look at a Switch, recognise that 3 servers are connected to it,
locate these servers on the drawing, then add the connectors.

Does anyone have any ideas how this could be done? I'm thinking it's going
to be a bit of VBA, but my knowledge is limited. My eventual plan is to
run a
database update, add the new shapes based on the Access records, then
automatically link and layout the shapes to produce a Network Toplogy
diagram.

I'm sure it's possible, but I need advice from experts to help me out!

Thanks in advance,
Ben


  #3  
Old May 2nd, 2008, 12:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
BenMcD
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Posts: 14
Default Connecting Shapes Automatically

Thanks for that Al, I'll do some googling and try and order a copy of the
book. Can this be done in any version of 2003? My organisation doesn't have
2007 at the moment, but I can get a copy of it if it can't be done in 2003.

"Al Edlund" wrote:

The easy first step is to get David Parkers book on data visualization. He
has some examples on how to do the visio portion of it. The pre-req in this
case if v2007 Pro for data linking. I usually strongly suggest that the user
consider using o2007 pro as well even though a2007 isn't required. The
skill set would be medium to strong vb(a) skills with some knowledge of
database.
If you need more help come on back,

al

"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone,

I'm trying to get Visio to connect shapes automatically. The process
should
be that Visio examines the 'Connected to' field of the shape, locates the
shapes in the drawing listed in this field using their Asset Number, then
draws connecting lines between the shape and it's children. So for
example,
it would look at a Switch, recognise that 3 servers are connected to it,
locate these servers on the drawing, then add the connectors.

Does anyone have any ideas how this could be done? I'm thinking it's going
to be a bit of VBA, but my knowledge is limited. My eventual plan is to
run a
database update, add the new shapes based on the Access records, then
automatically link and layout the shapes to produce a Network Toplogy
diagram.

I'm sure it's possible, but I need advice from experts to help me out!

Thanks in advance,
Ben


  #4  
Old May 2nd, 2008, 01:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
David Parker
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Posts: 467
Default Connecting Shapes Automatically

The book is aimed at Visio 2007, but roughly half is applicable to Visio
2003.
The connections example could be adapted to read any recordset, or the
custom properties (which could be refreshed using the database wizard)


"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Thanks for that Al, I'll do some googling and try and order a copy of the
book. Can this be done in any version of 2003? My organisation doesn't
have
2007 at the moment, but I can get a copy of it if it can't be done in
2003.

"Al Edlund" wrote:

The easy first step is to get David Parkers book on data visualization.
He
has some examples on how to do the visio portion of it. The pre-req in
this
case if v2007 Pro for data linking. I usually strongly suggest that the
user
consider using o2007 pro as well even though a2007 isn't required. The
skill set would be medium to strong vb(a) skills with some knowledge of
database.
If you need more help come on back,

al

"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone,

I'm trying to get Visio to connect shapes automatically. The process
should
be that Visio examines the 'Connected to' field of the shape, locates
the
shapes in the drawing listed in this field using their Asset Number,
then
draws connecting lines between the shape and it's children. So for
example,
it would look at a Switch, recognise that 3 servers are connected to
it,
locate these servers on the drawing, then add the connectors.

Does anyone have any ideas how this could be done? I'm thinking it's
going
to be a bit of VBA, but my knowledge is limited. My eventual plan is to
run a
database update, add the new shapes based on the Access records, then
automatically link and layout the shapes to produce a Network Toplogy
diagram.

I'm sure it's possible, but I need advice from experts to help me out!

Thanks in advance,
Ben



--
David Parker
Microsoft MVP (Visio)
http://bvisual.spaces.live.com
http://www.visualizinginformation.com

  #5  
Old May 6th, 2008, 09:46 AM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
BenMcD
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Posts: 14
Default Connecting Shapes Automatically

Sounds like exactly what I need! Just to make it clear:

Each of the component items within my DB are related to different service
areas within my organisation. I could use the database wizard to monitor the
table and add the shapes automatically, copying the record details into the
relevant custom property fields. Within a new custom property, each item
would have the asset tag of the other equipment it's linked to- could Visio
monitor this field, identify the asset tag of the related items, find the
related items, and draw the links between them?

Hopefully then it would be a case of setting Visio to auto-arrange the
shapes into a tree based layout.

Does this sound 'do-able'?

"David Parker" wrote:

The book is aimed at Visio 2007, but roughly half is applicable to Visio
2003.
The connections example could be adapted to read any recordset, or the
custom properties (which could be refreshed using the database wizard)


"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Thanks for that Al, I'll do some googling and try and order a copy of the
book. Can this be done in any version of 2003? My organisation doesn't
have
2007 at the moment, but I can get a copy of it if it can't be done in
2003.

"Al Edlund" wrote:

The easy first step is to get David Parkers book on data visualization.
He
has some examples on how to do the visio portion of it. The pre-req in
this
case if v2007 Pro for data linking. I usually strongly suggest that the
user
consider using o2007 pro as well even though a2007 isn't required. The
skill set would be medium to strong vb(a) skills with some knowledge of
database.
If you need more help come on back,

al

"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone,

I'm trying to get Visio to connect shapes automatically. The process
should
be that Visio examines the 'Connected to' field of the shape, locates
the
shapes in the drawing listed in this field using their Asset Number,
then
draws connecting lines between the shape and it's children. So for
example,
it would look at a Switch, recognise that 3 servers are connected to
it,
locate these servers on the drawing, then add the connectors.

Does anyone have any ideas how this could be done? I'm thinking it's
going
to be a bit of VBA, but my knowledge is limited. My eventual plan is to
run a
database update, add the new shapes based on the Access records, then
automatically link and layout the shapes to produce a Network Toplogy
diagram.

I'm sure it's possible, but I need advice from experts to help me out!

Thanks in advance,
Ben


--
David Parker
Microsoft MVP (Visio)
http://bvisual.spaces.live.com
http://www.visualizinginformation.com


  #6  
Old May 9th, 2008, 08:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
David Parker
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Posts: 467
Default Connecting Shapes Automatically

Yes, with code, of course

"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Sounds like exactly what I need! Just to make it clear:

Each of the component items within my DB are related to different service
areas within my organisation. I could use the database wizard to monitor
the
table and add the shapes automatically, copying the record details into
the
relevant custom property fields. Within a new custom property, each item
would have the asset tag of the other equipment it's linked to- could
Visio
monitor this field, identify the asset tag of the related items, find the
related items, and draw the links between them?

Hopefully then it would be a case of setting Visio to auto-arrange the
shapes into a tree based layout.

Does this sound 'do-able'?

"David Parker" wrote:

The book is aimed at Visio 2007, but roughly half is applicable to Visio
2003.
The connections example could be adapted to read any recordset, or the
custom properties (which could be refreshed using the database wizard)


"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Thanks for that Al, I'll do some googling and try and order a copy of
the
book. Can this be done in any version of 2003? My organisation doesn't
have
2007 at the moment, but I can get a copy of it if it can't be done in
2003.

"Al Edlund" wrote:

The easy first step is to get David Parkers book on data
visualization.
He
has some examples on how to do the visio portion of it. The pre-req in
this
case if v2007 Pro for data linking. I usually strongly suggest that
the
user
consider using o2007 pro as well even though a2007 isn't required.
The
skill set would be medium to strong vb(a) skills with some knowledge
of
database.
If you need more help come on back,

al

"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone,

I'm trying to get Visio to connect shapes automatically. The process
should
be that Visio examines the 'Connected to' field of the shape,
locates
the
shapes in the drawing listed in this field using their Asset Number,
then
draws connecting lines between the shape and it's children. So for
example,
it would look at a Switch, recognise that 3 servers are connected to
it,
locate these servers on the drawing, then add the connectors.

Does anyone have any ideas how this could be done? I'm thinking it's
going
to be a bit of VBA, but my knowledge is limited. My eventual plan is
to
run a
database update, add the new shapes based on the Access records,
then
automatically link and layout the shapes to produce a Network
Toplogy
diagram.

I'm sure it's possible, but I need advice from experts to help me
out!

Thanks in advance,
Ben


--
David Parker
Microsoft MVP (Visio)
http://bvisual.spaces.live.com
http://www.visualizinginformation.com



--
David Parker
Microsoft MVP (Visio)
http://bvisual.spaces.live.com
http://www.visualizinginformation.com

  #7  
Old May 27th, 2008, 11:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
BenMcD
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Posts: 14
Default Connecting Shapes Automatically

David,

I've bought your book and have been working my way through it. Very good
read, there's so much I didn't realise you could do with Visio!

I've started coding to get the shapes to link automatically, I'm modifying
the 'Connect my Subordinates' section to suit my needs. When I run it in it's
standard form, it displays the following error:

"Compile Error:
Type mismatch: array or user-defined type expected"

The particular line is:
If FindMySubordinates(manager, foundShapes) = True Then

I'm not too sure where to go from here, any suggestions?

Thank you,
Ben

"David Parker" wrote:

Yes, with code, of course

"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Sounds like exactly what I need! Just to make it clear:

Each of the component items within my DB are related to different service
areas within my organisation. I could use the database wizard to monitor
the
table and add the shapes automatically, copying the record details into
the
relevant custom property fields. Within a new custom property, each item
would have the asset tag of the other equipment it's linked to- could
Visio
monitor this field, identify the asset tag of the related items, find the
related items, and draw the links between them?

Hopefully then it would be a case of setting Visio to auto-arrange the
shapes into a tree based layout.

Does this sound 'do-able'?

"David Parker" wrote:

The book is aimed at Visio 2007, but roughly half is applicable to Visio
2003.
The connections example could be adapted to read any recordset, or the
custom properties (which could be refreshed using the database wizard)


"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Thanks for that Al, I'll do some googling and try and order a copy of
the
book. Can this be done in any version of 2003? My organisation doesn't
have
2007 at the moment, but I can get a copy of it if it can't be done in
2003.

"Al Edlund" wrote:

The easy first step is to get David Parkers book on data
visualization.
He
has some examples on how to do the visio portion of it. The pre-req in
this
case if v2007 Pro for data linking. I usually strongly suggest that
the
user
consider using o2007 pro as well even though a2007 isn't required.
The
skill set would be medium to strong vb(a) skills with some knowledge
of
database.
If you need more help come on back,

al

"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone,

I'm trying to get Visio to connect shapes automatically. The process
should
be that Visio examines the 'Connected to' field of the shape,
locates
the
shapes in the drawing listed in this field using their Asset Number,
then
draws connecting lines between the shape and it's children. So for
example,
it would look at a Switch, recognise that 3 servers are connected to
it,
locate these servers on the drawing, then add the connectors.

Does anyone have any ideas how this could be done? I'm thinking it's
going
to be a bit of VBA, but my knowledge is limited. My eventual plan is
to
run a
database update, add the new shapes based on the Access records,
then
automatically link and layout the shapes to produce a Network
Toplogy
diagram.

I'm sure it's possible, but I need advice from experts to help me
out!

Thanks in advance,
Ben


--
David Parker
Microsoft MVP (Visio)
http://bvisual.spaces.live.com
http://www.visualizinginformation.com



--
David Parker
Microsoft MVP (Visio)
http://bvisual.spaces.live.com
http://www.visualizinginformation.com


  #8  
Old May 27th, 2008, 05:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
BenMcD
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Posts: 14
Default Connecting Shapes Automatically

No problems, I've sorted it now.

I've managed to get it linking the shapes, I'm now working on getting it to
link to more than one parent, by examining the list from the field, for
example:

"51425487, 58694875"

Hoping this is possible!

"BenMcD" wrote:

David,

I've bought your book and have been working my way through it. Very good
read, there's so much I didn't realise you could do with Visio!

I've started coding to get the shapes to link automatically, I'm modifying
the 'Connect my Subordinates' section to suit my needs. When I run it in it's
standard form, it displays the following error:

"Compile Error:
Type mismatch: array or user-defined type expected"

The particular line is:
If FindMySubordinates(manager, foundShapes) = True Then

I'm not too sure where to go from here, any suggestions?

Thank you,
Ben

"David Parker" wrote:

Yes, with code, of course

"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Sounds like exactly what I need! Just to make it clear:

Each of the component items within my DB are related to different service
areas within my organisation. I could use the database wizard to monitor
the
table and add the shapes automatically, copying the record details into
the
relevant custom property fields. Within a new custom property, each item
would have the asset tag of the other equipment it's linked to- could
Visio
monitor this field, identify the asset tag of the related items, find the
related items, and draw the links between them?

Hopefully then it would be a case of setting Visio to auto-arrange the
shapes into a tree based layout.

Does this sound 'do-able'?

"David Parker" wrote:

The book is aimed at Visio 2007, but roughly half is applicable to Visio
2003.
The connections example could be adapted to read any recordset, or the
custom properties (which could be refreshed using the database wizard)


"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Thanks for that Al, I'll do some googling and try and order a copy of
the
book. Can this be done in any version of 2003? My organisation doesn't
have
2007 at the moment, but I can get a copy of it if it can't be done in
2003.

"Al Edlund" wrote:

The easy first step is to get David Parkers book on data
visualization.
He
has some examples on how to do the visio portion of it. The pre-req in
this
case if v2007 Pro for data linking. I usually strongly suggest that
the
user
consider using o2007 pro as well even though a2007 isn't required.
The
skill set would be medium to strong vb(a) skills with some knowledge
of
database.
If you need more help come on back,

al

"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone,

I'm trying to get Visio to connect shapes automatically. The process
should
be that Visio examines the 'Connected to' field of the shape,
locates
the
shapes in the drawing listed in this field using their Asset Number,
then
draws connecting lines between the shape and it's children. So for
example,
it would look at a Switch, recognise that 3 servers are connected to
it,
locate these servers on the drawing, then add the connectors.

Does anyone have any ideas how this could be done? I'm thinking it's
going
to be a bit of VBA, but my knowledge is limited. My eventual plan is
to
run a
database update, add the new shapes based on the Access records,
then
automatically link and layout the shapes to produce a Network
Toplogy
diagram.

I'm sure it's possible, but I need advice from experts to help me
out!

Thanks in advance,
Ben


--
David Parker
Microsoft MVP (Visio)
http://bvisual.spaces.live.com
http://www.visualizinginformation.com



--
David Parker
Microsoft MVP (Visio)
http://bvisual.spaces.live.com
http://www.visualizinginformation.com


  #9  
Old May 28th, 2008, 05:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
David Parker
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Posts: 467
Default Connecting Shapes Automatically

Glad you like the book ... shame it couldn't be in color!

"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
David,

I've bought your book and have been working my way through it. Very good
read, there's so much I didn't realise you could do with Visio!

I've started coding to get the shapes to link automatically, I'm modifying
the 'Connect my Subordinates' section to suit my needs. When I run it in
it's
standard form, it displays the following error:

"Compile Error:
Type mismatch: array or user-defined type expected"

The particular line is:
If FindMySubordinates(manager, foundShapes) = True Then

I'm not too sure where to go from here, any suggestions?

Thank you,
Ben

"David Parker" wrote:

Yes, with code, of course

"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Sounds like exactly what I need! Just to make it clear:

Each of the component items within my DB are related to different
service
areas within my organisation. I could use the database wizard to
monitor
the
table and add the shapes automatically, copying the record details into
the
relevant custom property fields. Within a new custom property, each
item
would have the asset tag of the other equipment it's linked to- could
Visio
monitor this field, identify the asset tag of the related items, find
the
related items, and draw the links between them?

Hopefully then it would be a case of setting Visio to auto-arrange the
shapes into a tree based layout.

Does this sound 'do-able'?

"David Parker" wrote:

The book is aimed at Visio 2007, but roughly half is applicable to
Visio
2003.
The connections example could be adapted to read any recordset, or the
custom properties (which could be refreshed using the database wizard)


"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Thanks for that Al, I'll do some googling and try and order a copy
of
the
book. Can this be done in any version of 2003? My organisation
doesn't
have
2007 at the moment, but I can get a copy of it if it can't be done
in
2003.

"Al Edlund" wrote:

The easy first step is to get David Parkers book on data
visualization.
He
has some examples on how to do the visio portion of it. The pre-req
in
this
case if v2007 Pro for data linking. I usually strongly suggest that
the
user
consider using o2007 pro as well even though a2007 isn't required.
The
skill set would be medium to strong vb(a) skills with some
knowledge
of
database.
If you need more help come on back,

al

"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone,

I'm trying to get Visio to connect shapes automatically. The
process
should
be that Visio examines the 'Connected to' field of the shape,
locates
the
shapes in the drawing listed in this field using their Asset
Number,
then
draws connecting lines between the shape and it's children. So
for
example,
it would look at a Switch, recognise that 3 servers are connected
to
it,
locate these servers on the drawing, then add the connectors.

Does anyone have any ideas how this could be done? I'm thinking
it's
going
to be a bit of VBA, but my knowledge is limited. My eventual plan
is
to
run a
database update, add the new shapes based on the Access records,
then
automatically link and layout the shapes to produce a Network
Toplogy
diagram.

I'm sure it's possible, but I need advice from experts to help me
out!

Thanks in advance,
Ben


--
David Parker
Microsoft MVP (Visio)
http://bvisual.spaces.live.com
http://www.visualizinginformation.com



--
David Parker
Microsoft MVP (Visio)
http://bvisual.spaces.live.com
http://www.visualizinginformation.com



--
David Parker
Microsoft MVP (Visio)
http://bvisual.spaces.live.com
http://www.visualizinginformation.com

  #10  
Old July 10th, 2008, 02:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
BenMcD
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Posts: 14
Default Connecting Shapes Automatically

True, but the book is just fine in plain black and white to be honest, simple
and easy to read that way!

Unforunately I'm back to ask your advice again- I've cracked getting Visio
to link shapes. It looks at the particular shape, examines a field called
'Parent', takes the name of the parent, locates it then connects the two
together. I can't seem to work out how to get it to connect a shape to
mutliple parents!

My parent field would be as follows:
Parent - SERVER1, SERVER 2, SERVER3

Each entity is followed by a comma and seperated by a space. How do I go
about modifying the code so that it can connect to multiple parents? I can
send the code if required?

Any advice/help you can provide would be greatly appreciated as I've been
struggling for some time!

Thanks again,
Ben

"David Parker" wrote:

Glad you like the book ... shame it couldn't be in color!

"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
David,

I've bought your book and have been working my way through it. Very good
read, there's so much I didn't realise you could do with Visio!

I've started coding to get the shapes to link automatically, I'm modifying
the 'Connect my Subordinates' section to suit my needs. When I run it in
it's
standard form, it displays the following error:

"Compile Error:
Type mismatch: array or user-defined type expected"

The particular line is:
If FindMySubordinates(manager, foundShapes) = True Then

I'm not too sure where to go from here, any suggestions?

Thank you,
Ben

"David Parker" wrote:

Yes, with code, of course

"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Sounds like exactly what I need! Just to make it clear:

Each of the component items within my DB are related to different
service
areas within my organisation. I could use the database wizard to
monitor
the
table and add the shapes automatically, copying the record details into
the
relevant custom property fields. Within a new custom property, each
item
would have the asset tag of the other equipment it's linked to- could
Visio
monitor this field, identify the asset tag of the related items, find
the
related items, and draw the links between them?

Hopefully then it would be a case of setting Visio to auto-arrange the
shapes into a tree based layout.

Does this sound 'do-able'?

"David Parker" wrote:

The book is aimed at Visio 2007, but roughly half is applicable to
Visio
2003.
The connections example could be adapted to read any recordset, or the
custom properties (which could be refreshed using the database wizard)


"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Thanks for that Al, I'll do some googling and try and order a copy
of
the
book. Can this be done in any version of 2003? My organisation
doesn't
have
2007 at the moment, but I can get a copy of it if it can't be done
in
2003.

"Al Edlund" wrote:

The easy first step is to get David Parkers book on data
visualization.
He
has some examples on how to do the visio portion of it. The pre-req
in
this
case if v2007 Pro for data linking. I usually strongly suggest that
the
user
consider using o2007 pro as well even though a2007 isn't required.
The
skill set would be medium to strong vb(a) skills with some
knowledge
of
database.
If you need more help come on back,

al

"BenMcD" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone,

I'm trying to get Visio to connect shapes automatically. The
process
should
be that Visio examines the 'Connected to' field of the shape,
locates
the
shapes in the drawing listed in this field using their Asset
Number,
then
draws connecting lines between the shape and it's children. So
for
example,
it would look at a Switch, recognise that 3 servers are connected
to
it,
locate these servers on the drawing, then add the connectors.

Does anyone have any ideas how this could be done? I'm thinking
it's
going
to be a bit of VBA, but my knowledge is limited. My eventual plan
is
to
run a
database update, add the new shapes based on the Access records,
then
automatically link and layout the shapes to produce a Network
Toplogy
diagram.

I'm sure it's possible, but I need advice from experts to help me
out!

Thanks in advance,
Ben


--
David Parker
Microsoft MVP (Visio)
http://bvisual.spaces.live.com
http://www.visualizinginformation.com



--
David Parker
Microsoft MVP (Visio)
http://bvisual.spaces.live.com
http://www.visualizinginformation.com



--
David Parker
Microsoft MVP (Visio)
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