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  #11  
Old December 27th, 2007, 04:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Beth Melton
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Default Word 2007 Learning Curve

I felt the same way when I first started using Office 2007. My trusty menus
and toolbars were gone and it seemed like it took more clicks to accomplish
a task than the previous versions. I hated it, I hated every minute I spent
with it. BUT then I started discovering the new features that were
introduced and ever since then I've never looked back. The key is two-fold.

1) If you are trying to use the applications exactly as you did in the past
you may find it more cumbersome. 2) While some tasks take more clicks other
tasks, many tasks that used to involved several changes have been reduced to
a couple clicks. I found the time-saving steps are a bit of a trade-off.
Take the Margin galleries for a quick example. If you need to modify your
margins, several frequently used options are available on the Page Layout
tab in the Margins gallery for Word and Excel. All you have to do is open
the gallery, click your selection, and the margins are changed for you.

I suspect once you learn how to efficiently use the new UI then you'll
discover as I did, and numerous others who hated it initially too, things
you wondered how you ever lived without. :-) Here are a few tips and
resources that may help:
- Learn more about the Quick Access Toolbar (the small toolbar next to the
Microsoft Office Button that has Save and Undo on it by default). It's easy
to customize and add those commands you frequently use. To add a command,
right-click the command, either on the Ribbon or those found under the
Microsoft Office Button, and then click "Add to Quick Access Toolbar". To
add an entire group, such as the Font group on the Home tab, right-click the
group name instead of a command in the group. To remove a command,
right-click it and you'll see the Remove command. To reorganize commands,
right-click the Quick Access Toolbar and then click "Customize the Quick
Access Toolbar". I set mine up in the beginning so it looked exactly like
the first part of the old Standard toolbar and the first part of the
Formatting toolbar. What a difference that made!

- Right-click *everything*. Unlike previous versions, some commands can only
be found by right-clicking a command. This includes the Galleries as well.

- Use Interactive Guides to help you find commands you're unable to locate.
They can be found in Help or by using these links:

Excel : http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/ex...491511033.aspx


PowerPoint: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/po...490761033.aspx


Word: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/wo...744321033.aspx


- Spend a little time on Office Online. It contains a wealth of resources
from tips and tricks to training.

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email cannot be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Coauthor of Word 2007 Inside Out:
http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

"JMB" wrote in message
...
I'll make an honest attempt to give this question/feedback a positive
twist.
I have been using Word/Excel etc. for years now and consider myself
somewhat
of an expert user. Now I have a new computer with Vista and Office 2007.
And
I essentially find myself facing this predicament of going up an
enormously
steep learning curve, i.e. relearning how to wordprocess and spreadsheet
almost from scratch all over again. The new and improved of Office 2007
apps
may look much more "politically correct" than in previous versions, but so
far my experience has been that it can hardly get any less user friendly
and
more convoluted than this. I'm giving it a very serious try here, but I'm
also beginning to think about throwing in the towel. Anybody out there
that
can offer any useful advice as to how I can actually start using the
Office
2007 applications without letting all my previous experience and know-how
completely go to waste?
--
JMB



  #12  
Old December 27th, 2007, 05:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Jay Freedman
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Default Word 2007 Learning Curve

Hi Bob,

Having listened to Jensen Harris in person, reading his blog, and suffering
through the beta, I think I can promise you that they aren't going to "yank the
dialogs out" although they will probably give some of them a facelift the next
time around. I think the tiny size of the launchers was a mistake, probably in
an overzealous attempt to "hide the complexity from new users". Believe me,
they're hearing plenty of feedback about it!

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:53:58 -0500, CyberTaz
wrote:

Hey Terry -

Do ya think that maybe they're trying to discourage people from using them
because they eventually intend to yank the dialogs out?;-)

Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 12/27/07 5:53 AM, in article
, "Terry Farrell"
wrote:

Bob

And how I wish these 'dialog launchers' were activated by clicking anywhere
in the group title bar rather than having to aim for the piddling little
arrow at its end. After all, the bar is functionless other than for display
the group title.

Terry

"CyberTaz" wrote in message
.. .
In addition to the excellent suggestions from others, I've found it quite
helpful to pay particular attention to the "Dialog Launcher" buttons that
appear on the right end of the group name bar of many of the tabs - they
look like a little square with a diagonal arrow within it... In most cases
the dialogs or Task Panes they evoke are virtually identical to what
you're
accustomed to using in previous versions.

HTH |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 12/26/07 10:00 PM, in article
, "JMB"
wrote:

Herb and Susan, thanks for the useful feedback. Like Herb I have no
choice,
with my company about to make a massive migration to Vista and Office
2007.
And I can't afford to loose much time and productivity because of this.
Hence
my present preparatory work at home in my spare time. So I'll have to
bite
the bullet, but this looks like it is going to be a very tough and bitter
one. Quite frankly I fail to understand what Microsoft was/is thinking.
Preparing a new document or spreadsheet seems to be all about coping with
the
user interface and appearances now, and in the meantime many people seem
to
forget what it is really about, i.e. the contents of the message ... The
next
release has been aptly code named MS Office HAB (Hot Air Balloon). On the
other hand I suppose it is also fair to point out that I'm not getting
any
younger and possibly my flexibility to adjust is no longer what it used
to be.



--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ:
http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
  #13  
Old December 27th, 2007, 06:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Terry Farrell[_2_]
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Default Word 2007 Learning Curve

After all the 'waffle' we were given about usability and how the whole area
around the Pizza in Word and Start Menu in Vista are 'sensitive' areas so
the users don't actually have to hit the buttons dead-on, it is a shame that
the team designing the dialog selectors hadn't been party to the same
brainwashing.

Terry

"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
news
Hi Bob,

Having listened to Jensen Harris in person, reading his blog, and
suffering
through the beta, I think I can promise you that they aren't going to
"yank the
dialogs out" although they will probably give some of them a facelift the
next
time around. I think the tiny size of the launchers was a mistake,
probably in
an overzealous attempt to "hide the complexity from new users". Believe
me,
they're hearing plenty of feedback about it!

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:53:58 -0500, CyberTaz

wrote:

Hey Terry -

Do ya think that maybe they're trying to discourage people from using them
because they eventually intend to yank the dialogs out?;-)

Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 12/27/07 5:53 AM, in article
, "Terry Farrell"
wrote:

Bob

And how I wish these 'dialog launchers' were activated by clicking
anywhere
in the group title bar rather than having to aim for the piddling little
arrow at its end. After all, the bar is functionless other than for
display
the group title.

Terry

"CyberTaz" wrote in message
.. .
In addition to the excellent suggestions from others, I've found it
quite
helpful to pay particular attention to the "Dialog Launcher" buttons
that
appear on the right end of the group name bar of many of the tabs -
they
look like a little square with a diagonal arrow within it... In most
cases
the dialogs or Task Panes they evoke are virtually identical to what
you're
accustomed to using in previous versions.

HTH |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 12/26/07 10:00 PM, in article
, "JMB"
wrote:

Herb and Susan, thanks for the useful feedback. Like Herb I have no
choice,
with my company about to make a massive migration to Vista and Office
2007.
And I can't afford to loose much time and productivity because of
this.
Hence
my present preparatory work at home in my spare time. So I'll have to
bite
the bullet, but this looks like it is going to be a very tough and
bitter
one. Quite frankly I fail to understand what Microsoft was/is
thinking.
Preparing a new document or spreadsheet seems to be all about coping
with
the
user interface and appearances now, and in the meantime many people
seem
to
forget what it is really about, i.e. the contents of the message ...
The
next
release has been aptly code named MS Office HAB (Hot Air Balloon). On
the
other hand I suppose it is also fair to point out that I'm not getting
any
younger and possibly my flexibility to adjust is no longer what it
used
to be.



--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ:
http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so all may benefit.


  #14  
Old December 28th, 2007, 04:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
John Hanley
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Posts: 31
Default Word 2007 Learning Curve

Here are a couple of learning tools for Word 2007 that helped me:

http://office.microsoft.com/training...RC100664431033

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...654561033.aspx

http://office.microsoft.com/training...RP100664381033

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/msoffice/?p=146



"JMB" wrote in message
...
I'll make an honest attempt to give this question/feedback a positive
twist.
I have been using Word/Excel etc. for years now and consider myself
somewhat
of an expert user. Now I have a new computer with Vista and Office 2007.
And
I essentially find myself facing this predicament of going up an
enormously
steep learning curve, i.e. relearning how to wordprocess and spreadsheet
almost from scratch all over again. The new and improved of Office 2007
apps
may look much more "politically correct" than in previous versions, but so
far my experience has been that it can hardly get any less user friendly
and
more convoluted than this. I'm giving it a very serious try here, but I'm
also beginning to think about throwing in the towel. Anybody out there
that
can offer any useful advice as to how I can actually start using the
Office
2007 applications without letting all my previous experience and know-how
completely go to waste?
--
JMB


  #15  
Old December 29th, 2007, 10:09 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Paul Gauci
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Posts: 55
Default Word 2007 Learning Curve

Yes Ok I have tried the QAT approach but I disovered that some of the icons
for different commands look exactly alike and there is no fast-and-easy way
to edit the icons as we were able to do with 2003.

I am now trying out the pschmid Ribbon Customiser. However, I still have to
find out how to customise the ribbon.


--
Paul Gauci


"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

Use the QAT as much as possible to collect your most frequently used tools.
One good thing about Office 2007 is that it's really easy to add items to
the QAT. Right-click what you want, and choose Add to Quick Access Toolbar.
The other thing that will make it less of a pain (literally) is to move the
QAT to below the ribbon. That way, it will a shorter mouse journey, and
easier to access. (Right-click the QAT and choose "Show QAT Below the
Ribbon".) The QAT has been my salvation.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com
"JMB" wrote in message
...
Herb and Susan, thanks for the useful feedback. Like Herb I have no
choice,
with my company about to make a massive migration to Vista and Office
2007.
And I can't afford to loose much time and productivity because of this.
Hence
my present preparatory work at home in my spare time. So I'll have to bite
the bullet, but this looks like it is going to be a very tough and bitter
one. Quite frankly I fail to understand what Microsoft was/is thinking.
Preparing a new document or spreadsheet seems to be all about coping with
the
user interface and appearances now, and in the meantime many people seem
to
forget what it is really about, i.e. the contents of the message ... The
next
release has been aptly code named MS Office HAB (Hot Air Balloon). On the
other hand I suppose it is also fair to point out that I'm not getting any
younger and possibly my flexibility to adjust is no longer what it used to
be.

--
JMB


"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

When I agreed to write a book about Word 2007, I faced exactly the same
problem you're facing. But, because Word 2007 was the object rather than
the
means, I had no choice in the matter. At the outset, I was using Word
2003
to write the book, but at some point, critical productivity mass was
achieved, and I found that new Word 2007 features made me more
productive,
and so I wrote the last half of the book using Word 2007.

I don't know if there are "classic" interface tools for Excel, but there
are
several for Word 2007:

http://www.addintools.com/english/menuword/

http://pschmid.net/blog/2007/04/20/111

I believe that the second option is free. So, for Word, at least, you
have
at least three choices:

1. Bite the bullet and learn Word 2007, knowing that Word 14 will surely
build on Word 2007/12 rather than on Word 2003/11; this is the best
option
if you need to keep up with future versions of Word. If it's hard to get
used to the new interface now in Word 12, it will only be more difficult
several years from now with Word 14.

2. Use a classic interface tool, relying on it when you're in a hurry,
but
otherwise dabbling and gradually learning the ribbon approach. This is a
good option if Word 2007 has features that you need, but you don't need
to
learn Word 2007 in a hurry. There are other learning aids you can use, as
well, such as the interactive guide that shows you where to find Word
2007
commands and features:
http://office.microsoft.com/assistan...HA100744321033.

3. Revert to Word 2003. This is a good option if Word 2003 provides
everything you need and if you won't need to work with documents that
rely
upon Word 2007-specific features that aren't preserved when using the
Office
2007 Compatibility Pack.

A 4th option--not incompatible with #1 and #2--is to set up Word 2007's
Quick Access Toolbar so that it contains your most-used tools from Word
2003
(do the same for Excel 2007). This is the approach I use for my everyday
work, and it has alleviated a lot of Word 2007's ergonomic
inefficiencies.
One approach to this is shown he

http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com/2...more-familiar/


--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com
"JMB" wrote in message
...
I'll make an honest attempt to give this question/feedback a positive
twist.
I have been using Word/Excel etc. for years now and consider myself
somewhat
of an expert user. Now I have a new computer with Vista and Office
2007.
And
I essentially find myself facing this predicament of going up an
enormously
steep learning curve, i.e. relearning how to wordprocess and
spreadsheet
almost from scratch all over again. The new and improved of Office 2007
apps
may look much more "politically correct" than in previous versions, but
so
far my experience has been that it can hardly get any less user
friendly
and
more convoluted than this. I'm giving it a very serious try here, but
I'm
also beginning to think about throwing in the towel. Anybody out there
that
can offer any useful advice as to how I can actually start using the
Office
2007 applications without letting all my previous experience and
know-how
completely go to waste?
--
JMB




  #16  
Old December 29th, 2007, 12:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Terry Farrell[_2_]
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Posts: 231
Default Word 2007 Learning Curve

Paul

That is yet another serious shortcoming of the implementation of the new
interface. I am amazed that Microsoft could not foresee that if the Ribbon
is locked for mere mortals (standard Users) to edit and that they are
'supposed' to use the QAT, there needs to be a way to distinguish between
the buttons - just like on the Ribbon!

But the user research team employed at huge expense by Microsoft said that
normal users never change their toolbars and such. Obviously they were not
monitoring real users and took the results at face value.

Terry

"Paul Gauci" wrote in message
...
Yes Ok I have tried the QAT approach but I disovered that some of the
icons
for different commands look exactly alike and there is no fast-and-easy
way
to edit the icons as we were able to do with 2003.

I am now trying out the pschmid Ribbon Customiser. However, I still have
to
find out how to customise the ribbon.


--
Paul Gauci


"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

Use the QAT as much as possible to collect your most frequently used
tools.
One good thing about Office 2007 is that it's really easy to add items to
the QAT. Right-click what you want, and choose Add to Quick Access
Toolbar.
The other thing that will make it less of a pain (literally) is to move
the
QAT to below the ribbon. That way, it will a shorter mouse journey, and
easier to access. (Right-click the QAT and choose "Show QAT Below the
Ribbon".) The QAT has been my salvation.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com
"JMB" wrote in message
...
Herb and Susan, thanks for the useful feedback. Like Herb I have no
choice,
with my company about to make a massive migration to Vista and Office
2007.
And I can't afford to loose much time and productivity because of this.
Hence
my present preparatory work at home in my spare time. So I'll have to
bite
the bullet, but this looks like it is going to be a very tough and
bitter
one. Quite frankly I fail to understand what Microsoft was/is thinking.
Preparing a new document or spreadsheet seems to be all about coping
with
the
user interface and appearances now, and in the meantime many people
seem
to
forget what it is really about, i.e. the contents of the message ...
The
next
release has been aptly code named MS Office HAB (Hot Air Balloon). On
the
other hand I suppose it is also fair to point out that I'm not getting
any
younger and possibly my flexibility to adjust is no longer what it used
to
be.

--
JMB


"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

When I agreed to write a book about Word 2007, I faced exactly the
same
problem you're facing. But, because Word 2007 was the object rather
than
the
means, I had no choice in the matter. At the outset, I was using Word
2003
to write the book, but at some point, critical productivity mass was
achieved, and I found that new Word 2007 features made me more
productive,
and so I wrote the last half of the book using Word 2007.

I don't know if there are "classic" interface tools for Excel, but
there
are
several for Word 2007:

http://www.addintools.com/english/menuword/

http://pschmid.net/blog/2007/04/20/111

I believe that the second option is free. So, for Word, at least, you
have
at least three choices:

1. Bite the bullet and learn Word 2007, knowing that Word 14 will
surely
build on Word 2007/12 rather than on Word 2003/11; this is the best
option
if you need to keep up with future versions of Word. If it's hard to
get
used to the new interface now in Word 12, it will only be more
difficult
several years from now with Word 14.

2. Use a classic interface tool, relying on it when you're in a hurry,
but
otherwise dabbling and gradually learning the ribbon approach. This is
a
good option if Word 2007 has features that you need, but you don't
need
to
learn Word 2007 in a hurry. There are other learning aids you can use,
as
well, such as the interactive guide that shows you where to find Word
2007
commands and features:
http://office.microsoft.com/assistan...HA100744321033.

3. Revert to Word 2003. This is a good option if Word 2003 provides
everything you need and if you won't need to work with documents that
rely
upon Word 2007-specific features that aren't preserved when using the
Office
2007 Compatibility Pack.

A 4th option--not incompatible with #1 and #2--is to set up Word
2007's
Quick Access Toolbar so that it contains your most-used tools from
Word
2003
(do the same for Excel 2007). This is the approach I use for my
everyday
work, and it has alleviated a lot of Word 2007's ergonomic
inefficiencies.
One approach to this is shown he

http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com/2...more-familiar/


--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com
"JMB" wrote in message
...
I'll make an honest attempt to give this question/feedback a
positive
twist.
I have been using Word/Excel etc. for years now and consider myself
somewhat
of an expert user. Now I have a new computer with Vista and Office
2007.
And
I essentially find myself facing this predicament of going up an
enormously
steep learning curve, i.e. relearning how to wordprocess and
spreadsheet
almost from scratch all over again. The new and improved of Office
2007
apps
may look much more "politically correct" than in previous versions,
but
so
far my experience has been that it can hardly get any less user
friendly
and
more convoluted than this. I'm giving it a very serious try here,
but
I'm
also beginning to think about throwing in the towel. Anybody out
there
that
can offer any useful advice as to how I can actually start using the
Office
2007 applications without letting all my previous experience and
know-how
completely go to waste?
--
JMB





  #17  
Old December 29th, 2007, 12:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Gordon
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Posts: 4,772
Default Word 2007 Learning Curve

"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...

But the user research team employed at huge expense by Microsoft said that
normal users never change their toolbars and such. Obviously they were not
monitoring real users and took the results at face value.


I have to say as an Advanced Excel user and a not-so advanced Word user /I/
never bothered with customizing the tool bar in previous versions - just as
I don't bother customizing IE or Firefox.....


  #18  
Old December 29th, 2007, 12:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Graham Mayor
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Posts: 18,297
Default Word 2007 Learning Curve

If you still have access to a PC with Word 2003 - see if
http://www.gmayor.com/Toolbars_in_word_2007.htm helps.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Paul Gauci wrote:
Yes Ok I have tried the QAT approach but I disovered that some of the
icons for different commands look exactly alike and there is no
fast-and-easy way to edit the icons as we were able to do with 2003.

I am now trying out the pschmid Ribbon Customiser. However, I still
have to find out how to customise the ribbon.



Use the QAT as much as possible to collect your most frequently used
tools. One good thing about Office 2007 is that it's really easy to
add items to the QAT. Right-click what you want, and choose Add to
Quick Access Toolbar. The other thing that will make it less of a
pain (literally) is to move the QAT to below the ribbon. That way,
it will a shorter mouse journey, and easier to access. (Right-click
the QAT and choose "Show QAT Below the Ribbon".) The QAT has been my
salvation.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com
"JMB" wrote in message
...
Herb and Susan, thanks for the useful feedback. Like Herb I have no
choice,
with my company about to make a massive migration to Vista and
Office 2007.
And I can't afford to loose much time and productivity because of
this. Hence
my present preparatory work at home in my spare time. So I'll have
to bite the bullet, but this looks like it is going to be a very
tough and bitter one. Quite frankly I fail to understand what
Microsoft was/is thinking. Preparing a new document or spreadsheet
seems to be all about coping with the
user interface and appearances now, and in the meantime many people
seem to
forget what it is really about, i.e. the contents of the message
... The next
release has been aptly code named MS Office HAB (Hot Air Balloon).
On the other hand I suppose it is also fair to point out that I'm
not getting any younger and possibly my flexibility to adjust is no
longer what it used to be.

--
JMB


"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

When I agreed to write a book about Word 2007, I faced exactly the
same problem you're facing. But, because Word 2007 was the object
rather than the
means, I had no choice in the matter. At the outset, I was using
Word 2003
to write the book, but at some point, critical productivity mass
was achieved, and I found that new Word 2007 features made me more
productive,
and so I wrote the last half of the book using Word 2007.

I don't know if there are "classic" interface tools for Excel, but
there are
several for Word 2007:

http://www.addintools.com/english/menuword/

http://pschmid.net/blog/2007/04/20/111

I believe that the second option is free. So, for Word, at least,
you have
at least three choices:

1. Bite the bullet and learn Word 2007, knowing that Word 14 will
surely build on Word 2007/12 rather than on Word 2003/11; this is
the best option
if you need to keep up with future versions of Word. If it's hard
to get used to the new interface now in Word 12, it will only be
more difficult several years from now with Word 14.

2. Use a classic interface tool, relying on it when you're in a
hurry, but
otherwise dabbling and gradually learning the ribbon approach.
This is a good option if Word 2007 has features that you need, but
you don't need to
learn Word 2007 in a hurry. There are other learning aids you can
use, as well, such as the interactive guide that shows you where
to find Word 2007
commands and features:
http://office.microsoft.com/assistan...HA100744321033.

3. Revert to Word 2003. This is a good option if Word 2003 provides
everything you need and if you won't need to work with documents
that rely
upon Word 2007-specific features that aren't preserved when using
the Office
2007 Compatibility Pack.

A 4th option--not incompatible with #1 and #2--is to set up Word
2007's Quick Access Toolbar so that it contains your most-used
tools from Word 2003
(do the same for Excel 2007). This is the approach I use for my
everyday work, and it has alleviated a lot of Word 2007's ergonomic
inefficiencies.
One approach to this is shown he

http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com/2...more-familiar/


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"JMB" wrote in message
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I'll make an honest attempt to give this question/feedback a
positive twist.
I have been using Word/Excel etc. for years now and consider
myself somewhat
of an expert user. Now I have a new computer with Vista and Office
2007.
And
I essentially find myself facing this predicament of going up an
enormously
steep learning curve, i.e. relearning how to wordprocess and
spreadsheet
almost from scratch all over again. The new and improved of
Office 2007 apps
may look much more "politically correct" than in previous
versions, but so
far my experience has been that it can hardly get any less user
friendly
and
more convoluted than this. I'm giving it a very serious try here,
but I'm
also beginning to think about throwing in the towel. Anybody out
there that
can offer any useful advice as to how I can actually start using
the Office
2007 applications without letting all my previous experience and
know-how
completely go to waste?
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Old December 29th, 2007, 12:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Terry Farrell[_2_]
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Default Word 2007 Learning Curve

In previous versions, I always modified the Toolbars. Many of the tools I
never used (such as cut, copy, past, bold, italics underline, etc.) I always
dragged off and added useful tools that were hidden (such as
ParaPageBreakBefore, Doc Properties, File New... and custom macros, etc.).

I always like that there were always so many different ways to work in Word
that allowed users to customize and work in a way that suited themselves and
their principal tasks. To me, much of this choice seems to have been
removed. I was privileged to be shown demos of the proposed Ribbon before it
went beta and was enthusiastic as I could see that so many more commands
could be made available for users, rather than having to dig deep to find
the hidden nest of tools available. But I wasn't aware of how rigid the
Ribbon was to be until beta testing started. I was deeply disappointed and I
still am. And I will remain disappointed until the Ribbon is user
customizable out-of-the-box.

Terry

"Gordon" wrote in message
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"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
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But the user research team employed at huge expense by Microsoft said
that normal users never change their toolbars and such. Obviously they
were not monitoring real users and took the results at face value.


I have to say as an Advanced Excel user and a not-so advanced Word user
/I/ never bothered with customizing the tool bar in previous versions -
just as I don't bother customizing IE or Firefox.....


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Old December 29th, 2007, 01:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Gordon
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"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
In previous versions, I always modified the Toolbars. Many of the tools I
never used (such as cut, copy, past, bold, italics underline, etc.) I
always dragged off and added useful tools that were hidden (such as
ParaPageBreakBefore, Doc Properties, File New... and custom macros, etc.).

I always like that there were always so many different ways to work in
Word that allowed users to customize and work in a way that suited
themselves and their principal tasks. To me, much of this choice seems to
have been removed. I was privileged to be shown demos of the proposed
Ribbon before it went beta and was enthusiastic as I could see that so
many more commands could be made available for users, rather than having
to dig deep to find the hidden nest of tools available. But I wasn't aware
of how rigid the Ribbon was to be until beta testing started. I was deeply
disappointed and I still am. And I will remain disappointed until the
Ribbon is user customizable out-of-the-box.

Terry


I hear what you say, but from a support perspective in a commercial
environment, a User customising ANYTHING on an individual basis turns into a
support/helpdesk nightmare.....


 




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