Cannot open floopy disk in Word

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Why do you think this is a bad idea? The AutoRecovery backups are
saved to
the HD regardless of the location of the file itself, and the more
often
they are made (up to a point), the better.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
...
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
They may already be corrupted, then, by having been saved directly
to
a
floppy, or by previous attempts at opening. You may be able to
extract
the
text contents by using the "Recover Text from Any File" setting in
the
Open
dialog. See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm


Susanne,

A very relevant link, the contents of which I am still studying.
Other
advice is getting me there slowly and is very much appreciated.
Just
one point at the moment: I have 'Save AutoRecover info every 10
minutes' enabled and I am not sure that this is a good idea yet for
the
likes of myself and my wife, who I am helping. What are your
thoughts
on that please?

Thanks,
Emrys Davies.

Suzanne

It was something I read somewhere as to the merits of AutoRecover and I
just needed reassurance, which is what you have given me.

Another point which is fooling me somewhat: I know that I must not save
directly to a floppy from Word or open it directly from Word. I accept
that, but if I attempt to open a floppy indirectly from Windows Explorer
I do not have access to 'Files of type' which is such a useful tool when
trying to ascertain which files are held on a floppy. I note that
WordPad is limited in that respect. Would you advise me on that aspect
please as this is totally new ground for me?

Regards,
Emrys Davies.

The options available in the Files of Type list vary depending on the
capabilities of the program involved. A program like WordPad is quite
limited in what file types it can open so the list is restricted to those
types only. Word, OTOH, is capable of opening a wider range of file types so
the list will be more extensive.

Since Windows Explorer is simply a navigation tool provided by Windows - not
an application program - it doesn't have a list of file types, per se.
Instead, opening a file from an Explorer window causes the appropriate
program to be launched based on the file's association with that program.

HTH |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 10/31/07 9:24 AM, in article ,
"Emrys Davies" wrote:

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Why do you think this is a bad idea? The AutoRecovery backups are
saved to
the HD regardless of the location of the file itself, and the more
often
they are made (up to a point), the better.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
...
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
They may already be corrupted, then, by having been saved directly
to
a
floppy, or by previous attempts at opening. You may be able to
extract
the
text contents by using the "Recover Text from Any File" setting in
the
Open
dialog. See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm


Susanne,

A very relevant link, the contents of which I am still studying.
Other
advice is getting me there slowly and is very much appreciated.
Just
one point at the moment: I have 'Save AutoRecover info every 10
minutes' enabled and I am not sure that this is a good idea yet for
the
likes of myself and my wife, who I am helping. What are your
thoughts
on that please?

Thanks,
Emrys Davies.

Suzanne

It was something I read somewhere as to the merits of AutoRecover and I
just needed reassurance, which is what you have given me.

Another point which is fooling me somewhat: I know that I must not save
directly to a floppy from Word or open it directly from Word. I accept
that, but if I attempt to open a floppy indirectly from Windows Explorer
I do not have access to 'Files of type' which is such a useful tool when
trying to ascertain which files are held on a floppy. I note that
WordPad is limited in that respect. Would you advise me on that aspect
please as this is totally new ground for me?

Regards,
Emrys Davies.

Well that is not quite accurate either Bob.

Windows Explorer has options to arrange the folder contents (in this case
the floppy contents) in several different orders. The useful one in this
instance would be to select the 'group by type' option which means that the
docs will be grouped together.

However, as a final bit of advice, I would quite soon move all your old
files off floppy disks completely. Floppies are ancient technology, prone to
corruption, prone to physical damage and slow. I don't believe that anyone
sells computers fitted with floppy drives as standard any more either. Far
better to burn the archives to CDR or DVDR (using the verification process)
and use the burning utility to create covers that list the contents.

--
Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP

"CyberTaz" wrote in message
.. .
The options available in the Files of Type list vary depending on the
capabilities of the program involved. A program like WordPad is quite
limited in what file types it can open so the list is restricted to those
types only. Word, OTOH, is capable of opening a wider range of file types
so
the list will be more extensive.

Since Windows Explorer is simply a navigation tool provided by Windows -
not
an application program - it doesn't have a list of file types, per se.
Instead, opening a file from an Explorer window causes the appropriate
program to be launched based on the file's association with that program.

HTH |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 10/31/07 9:24 AM, in article ,
"Emrys Davies" wrote:

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Why do you think this is a bad idea? The AutoRecovery backups are
saved to
the HD regardless of the location of the file itself, and the more
often
they are made (up to a point), the better.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
...
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
They may already be corrupted, then, by having been saved directly
to
a
floppy, or by previous attempts at opening. You may be able to
extract
the
text contents by using the "Recover Text from Any File" setting in
the
Open
dialog. See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm


Susanne,

A very relevant link, the contents of which I am still studying.
Other
advice is getting me there slowly and is very much appreciated.
Just
one point at the moment: I have 'Save AutoRecover info every 10
minutes' enabled and I am not sure that this is a good idea yet for
the
likes of myself and my wife, who I am helping. What are your
thoughts
on that please?

Thanks,
Emrys Davies.

Suzanne

It was something I read somewhere as to the merits of AutoRecover and I
just needed reassurance, which is what you have given me.

Another point which is fooling me somewhat: I know that I must not save
directly to a floppy from Word or open it directly from Word. I accept
that, but if I attempt to open a floppy indirectly from Windows Explorer
I do not have access to 'Files of type' which is such a useful tool when
trying to ascertain which files are held on a floppy. I note that
WordPad is limited in that respect. Would you advise me on that aspect
please as this is totally new ground for me?

Regards,
Emrys Davies.

Many thanks everyone. You have been very very helpful and it is much
appreciated.

Regards,
Emrys Davies.

Hi Terry -

Please help me understand where the inaccuracy is. Although your suggestion
is certainly helpful *sorting* the listed files by type isn't the same as
*limiting* the list to display files of only a *certain* type... Which
seemed to be what the OP was looking for and (AFAIK) can't be done in an
Explorer window, whereas when using the Open or Save As dialog windows from
within an application the Files of Type list does enable that constraint.

Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 10/31/07 10:19 AM, in article
, "Terry Farrell"
wrote:

Well that is not quite accurate either Bob.

Windows Explorer has options to arrange the folder contents (in this case
the floppy contents) in several different orders. The useful one in this
instance would be to select the 'group by type' option which means that the
docs will be grouped together.

However, as a final bit of advice, I would quite soon move all your old
files off floppy disks completely. Floppies are ancient technology, prone to
corruption, prone to physical damage and slow. I don't believe that anyone
sells computers fitted with floppy drives as standard any more either. Far
better to burn the archives to CDR or DVDR (using the verification process)
and use the burning utility to create covers that list the contents.

To add to what Bob and Terry have said, you don't want to open the file on
the floppy directly from Windows Explorer, either, as that amounts to the
same thing as opening it from Word (since Word will start and open it).
Instead, you need to use Windows Explorer to copy the file to the HD (to My
Documents or an appropriate subfolder within), then open it from within
Word.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
...
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Why do you think this is a bad idea? The AutoRecovery backups are
saved to
the HD regardless of the location of the file itself, and the more
often
they are made (up to a point), the better.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
...
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
They may already be corrupted, then, by having been saved directly
to
a
floppy, or by previous attempts at opening. You may be able to
extract
the
text contents by using the "Recover Text from Any File" setting in
the
Open
dialog. See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm


Susanne,

A very relevant link, the contents of which I am still studying.
Other
advice is getting me there slowly and is very much appreciated.
Just
one point at the moment: I have 'Save AutoRecover info every 10
minutes' enabled and I am not sure that this is a good idea yet for
the
likes of myself and my wife, who I am helping. What are your
thoughts
on that please?

Thanks,
Emrys Davies.

Suzanne

It was something I read somewhere as to the merits of AutoRecover and I
just needed reassurance, which is what you have given me.

Another point which is fooling me somewhat: I know that I must not save
directly to a floppy from Word or open it directly from Word. I accept
that, but if I attempt to open a floppy indirectly from Windows Explorer
I do not have access to 'Files of type' which is such a useful tool when
trying to ascertain which files are held on a floppy. I note that
WordPad is limited in that respect. Would you advise me on that aspect
please as this is totally new ground for me?

Regards,
Emrys Davies.

Well it doesn't 'limit' to display only a file type, but by grouping it by
type, you can limit yourself to looking at just that one group of docs or
dots - which is virtually the same thing.

Terry

"CyberTaz" wrote in message
.. .
Hi Terry -

Please help me understand where the inaccuracy is. Although your
suggestion
is certainly helpful *sorting* the listed files by type isn't the same as
*limiting* the list to display files of only a *certain* type... Which
seemed to be what the OP was looking for and (AFAIK) can't be done in an
Explorer window, whereas when using the Open or Save As dialog windows
from
within an application the Files of Type list does enable that constraint.

Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 10/31/07 10:19 AM, in article
, "Terry Farrell"
wrote:

Well that is not quite accurate either Bob.

Windows Explorer has options to arrange the folder contents (in this case
the floppy contents) in several different orders. The useful one in this
instance would be to select the 'group by type' option which means that
the
docs will be grouped together.

However, as a final bit of advice, I would quite soon move all your old
files off floppy disks completely. Floppies are ancient technology, prone
to
corruption, prone to physical damage and slow. I don't believe that
anyone
sells computers fitted with floppy drives as standard any more either.
Far
better to burn the archives to CDR or DVDR (using the verification
process)
and use the burning utility to create covers that list the contents.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
To add to what Bob and Terry have said, you don't want to open the
file on
the floppy directly from Windows Explorer, either, as that amounts to
the
same thing as opening it from Word (since Word will start and open
it).
Instead, you need to use Windows Explorer to copy the file to the HD
(to My
Documents or an appropriate subfolder within), then open it from
within
Word.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
...
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Why do you think this is a bad idea? The AutoRecovery backups are
saved to
the HD regardless of the location of the file itself, and the more
often
they are made (up to a point), the better.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
...
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
They may already be corrupted, then, by having been saved
directly
to
a
floppy, or by previous attempts at opening. You may be able to
extract
the
text contents by using the "Recover Text from Any File"
setting in
the
Open
dialog. See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm


Susanne,

A very relevant link, the contents of which I am still studying.
Other
advice is getting me there slowly and is very much appreciated.
Just
one point at the moment: I have 'Save AutoRecover info every 10
minutes' enabled and I am not sure that this is a good idea yet
for
the
likes of myself and my wife, who I am helping. What are your
thoughts
on that please?

Thanks,
Emrys Davies.

Suzanne

It was something I read somewhere as to the merits of AutoRecover
and I
just needed reassurance, which is what you have given me.

Another point which is fooling me somewhat: I know that I must not
save
directly to a floppy from Word or open it directly from Word. I
accept
that, but if I attempt to open a floppy indirectly from Windows
Explorer
I do not have access to 'Files of type' which is such a useful tool
when
trying to ascertain which files are held on a floppy. I note that
WordPad is limited in that respect. Would you advise me on that
aspect
please as this is totally new ground for me?

Regards,
Emrys Davies.

Suzanne,

You have made that so clear. Now, having done exactly what you have
outlined, I take it that from within Word I can now open the file saved
in My Documents and at the same time safely use the 'Files of type'
menu, which prompted me to ask my question.

Thanks,
EmrysDavies.

Exactly.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
...
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
To add to what Bob and Terry have said, you don't want to open the
file on
the floppy directly from Windows Explorer, either, as that amounts to
the
same thing as opening it from Word (since Word will start and open
it).
Instead, you need to use Windows Explorer to copy the file to the HD
(to My
Documents or an appropriate subfolder within), then open it from
within
Word.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
...
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Why do you think this is a bad idea? The AutoRecovery backups are
saved to
the HD regardless of the location of the file itself, and the more
often
they are made (up to a point), the better.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
...
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
They may already be corrupted, then, by having been saved
directly
to
a
floppy, or by previous attempts at opening. You may be able to
extract
the
text contents by using the "Recover Text from Any File"
setting in
the
Open
dialog. See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm


Susanne,

A very relevant link, the contents of which I am still studying.
Other
advice is getting me there slowly and is very much appreciated.
Just
one point at the moment: I have 'Save AutoRecover info every 10
minutes' enabled and I am not sure that this is a good idea yet
for
the
likes of myself and my wife, who I am helping. What are your
thoughts
on that please?

Thanks,
Emrys Davies.

Suzanne

It was something I read somewhere as to the merits of AutoRecover
and I
just needed reassurance, which is what you have given me.

Another point which is fooling me somewhat: I know that I must not
save
directly to a floppy from Word or open it directly from Word. I
accept
that, but if I attempt to open a floppy indirectly from Windows
Explorer
I do not have access to 'Files of type' which is such a useful tool
when
trying to ascertain which files are held on a floppy. I note that
WordPad is limited in that respect. Would you advise me on that
aspect
please as this is totally new ground for me?

Regards,
Emrys Davies.

Suzanne,

You have made that so clear. Now, having done exactly what you have
outlined, I take it that from within Word I can now open the file saved
in My Documents and at the same time safely use the 'Files of type'
menu, which prompted me to ask my question.

Thanks,
EmrysDavies.

My parents are also encountering problems opening Word files on a new Vista
PC. These files were saved on a Windows 98 PC onto floppies using Word.
What is strange though is that even in the Vista Windows Explorer, the files
don't even show up! If they put the floppy in the Win98 PC, the files
they've saved on the Vista PC don't show up, and vice versa.

I have to say that they (and me too) have often saved files to floppy as a
backup (or to take on the road) from inside Word and never had problems with
them. I guess we've been lucky.

But what I'm stumped with is that Vista doesn't seem to even see the files
that were saved on the Win98 PC. Is there something different between the 2
operating systems that is causing this?

Marie