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Put table at top of second newspaper column after column break
Hi Suzanne,
But, it does not hide hidden text if it is set to be displayed under Pizza ButtonWord OptionsDisplay. Of course that dialog does say "Always show these formatting marks on the screen" and if the ¶ is checked there, the ¶ in the Paragraph chunk of the Home tab of the Ribbon does not toggle the end of paragraph marks on and off. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... The Show/Hide ¶ button does hide Hidden text unless "Hidden text" is explicitly checked in the View Options. But Stefan was referring to the separate setting under Print Options, which is less likely to be checked (and of course would affect only printing, not display). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Right you are. I could have sworn that in earlier versions the ¶ button hid the display of hidden text as well. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... It certainly works here. Perhaps you forgot to clear the option to print hidden text? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Hi Tony, That does not seem to achieve the desired result in Word 2007 at least. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Tony Jollans" My forename at my surname dot com wrote in message ... You could also format the paragraph mark at the top of the second column as hidden text. -- Enjoy, Tony "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... I think that the best that you can do is to select the paragraph mark (¶) that is at the top of the column and then use format paragraph to remove any space before or after the paragraph and set the line spacing to Exactly 1pt (the minimum). You probably won't be able to tell that the table is 1pt lower. Another way however would be to press enter at the top of the first column to push the text in that column down. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Chris" wrote in message ... I'm putting tables inside of newspaper columns. My first table doesn't necessarily fill the first column, but I want the second table to be at the top of the second column. When I use a column break after the first table, I cannot find any way to get the second table to line up at the top of the second column. There is always a line above the table, and any attempt to delete that line simply deletes the column break. How can I put a table at the top of the second column? |
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That is exactly what I said:
The Show/Hide ¶ button does hide Hidden text unless "Hidden text" is explicitly checked in the View Options. The Options setting you describe in Word 2007 is equivalent to the one in Tools | Options | View in previous versions. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Hi Suzanne, But, it does not hide hidden text if it is set to be displayed under Pizza ButtonWord OptionsDisplay. Of course that dialog does say "Always show these formatting marks on the screen" and if the ¶ is checked there, the ¶ in the Paragraph chunk of the Home tab of the Ribbon does not toggle the end of paragraph marks on and off. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... The Show/Hide ¶ button does hide Hidden text unless "Hidden text" is explicitly checked in the View Options. But Stefan was referring to the separate setting under Print Options, which is less likely to be checked (and of course would affect only printing, not display). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Right you are. I could have sworn that in earlier versions the ¶ button hid the display of hidden text as well. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... It certainly works here. Perhaps you forgot to clear the option to print hidden text? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Hi Tony, That does not seem to achieve the desired result in Word 2007 at least. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Tony Jollans" My forename at my surname dot com wrote in message ... You could also format the paragraph mark at the top of the second column as hidden text. -- Enjoy, Tony "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... I think that the best that you can do is to select the paragraph mark (¶) that is at the top of the column and then use format paragraph to remove any space before or after the paragraph and set the line spacing to Exactly 1pt (the minimum). You probably won't be able to tell that the table is 1pt lower. Another way however would be to press enter at the top of the first column to push the text in that column down. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Chris" wrote in message ... I'm putting tables inside of newspaper columns. My first table doesn't necessarily fill the first column, but I want the second table to be at the top of the second column. When I use a column break after the first table, I cannot find any way to get the second table to line up at the top of the second column. There is always a line above the table, and any attempt to delete that line simply deletes the column break. How can I put a table at the top of the second column? |
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Put table at top of second newspaper column after column break
I know that is what you said. The point of my message was that the ¶ button
has become a bit redundant as it has no effect if the display of the ¶ is turned on in Word Options. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... That is exactly what I said: The Show/Hide ¶ button does hide Hidden text unless "Hidden text" is explicitly checked in the View Options. The Options setting you describe in Word 2007 is equivalent to the one in Tools | Options | View in previous versions. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Hi Suzanne, But, it does not hide hidden text if it is set to be displayed under Pizza ButtonWord OptionsDisplay. Of course that dialog does say "Always show these formatting marks on the screen" and if the ¶ is checked there, the ¶ in the Paragraph chunk of the Home tab of the Ribbon does not toggle the end of paragraph marks on and off. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... The Show/Hide ¶ button does hide Hidden text unless "Hidden text" is explicitly checked in the View Options. But Stefan was referring to the separate setting under Print Options, which is less likely to be checked (and of course would affect only printing, not display). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Right you are. I could have sworn that in earlier versions the ¶ button hid the display of hidden text as well. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... It certainly works here. Perhaps you forgot to clear the option to print hidden text? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Hi Tony, That does not seem to achieve the desired result in Word 2007 at least. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Tony Jollans" My forename at my surname dot com wrote in message ... You could also format the paragraph mark at the top of the second column as hidden text. -- Enjoy, Tony "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... I think that the best that you can do is to select the paragraph mark (¶) that is at the top of the column and then use format paragraph to remove any space before or after the paragraph and set the line spacing to Exactly 1pt (the minimum). You probably won't be able to tell that the table is 1pt lower. Another way however would be to press enter at the top of the first column to push the text in that column down. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Chris" wrote in message ... I'm putting tables inside of newspaper columns. My first table doesn't necessarily fill the first column, but I want the second table to be at the top of the second column. When I use a column break after the first table, I cannot find any way to get the second table to line up at the top of the second column. There is always a line above the table, and any attempt to delete that line simply deletes the column break. How can I put a table at the top of the second column? |
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But that has always been true, just not well understood.
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... I know that is what you said. The point of my message was that the ¶ button has become a bit redundant as it has no effect if the display of the ¶ is turned on in Word Options. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... That is exactly what I said: The Show/Hide ¶ button does hide Hidden text unless "Hidden text" is explicitly checked in the View Options. The Options setting you describe in Word 2007 is equivalent to the one in Tools | Options | View in previous versions. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Hi Suzanne, But, it does not hide hidden text if it is set to be displayed under Pizza ButtonWord OptionsDisplay. Of course that dialog does say "Always show these formatting marks on the screen" and if the ¶ is checked there, the ¶ in the Paragraph chunk of the Home tab of the Ribbon does not toggle the end of paragraph marks on and off. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... The Show/Hide ¶ button does hide Hidden text unless "Hidden text" is explicitly checked in the View Options. But Stefan was referring to the separate setting under Print Options, which is less likely to be checked (and of course would affect only printing, not display). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Right you are. I could have sworn that in earlier versions the ¶ button hid the display of hidden text as well. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... It certainly works here. Perhaps you forgot to clear the option to print hidden text? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Hi Tony, That does not seem to achieve the desired result in Word 2007 at least. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Tony Jollans" My forename at my surname dot com wrote in message ... You could also format the paragraph mark at the top of the second column as hidden text. -- Enjoy, Tony "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... I think that the best that you can do is to select the paragraph mark (¶) that is at the top of the column and then use format paragraph to remove any space before or after the paragraph and set the line spacing to Exactly 1pt (the minimum). You probably won't be able to tell that the table is 1pt lower. Another way however would be to press enter at the top of the first column to push the text in that column down. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Chris" wrote in message ... I'm putting tables inside of newspaper columns. My first table doesn't necessarily fill the first column, but I want the second table to be at the top of the second column. When I use a column break after the first table, I cannot find any way to get the second table to line up at the top of the second column. There is always a line above the table, and any attempt to delete that line simply deletes the column break. How can I put a table at the top of the second column? |
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Indeed, the ¶ button (or the Ctrl+Shift+8 shortcut) toggles the display only
of the items not explicitly checked in the options dialog box. I wonder if Word 2007 actually adds to the confusion, since the Options dialog box no longer separates print and display options (for example, the options to print and display hidden text are both in the Popular category of the dialog)... -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... But that has always been true, just not well understood. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... I know that is what you said. The point of my message was that the ¶ button has become a bit redundant as it has no effect if the display of the ¶ is turned on in Word Options. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... That is exactly what I said: The Show/Hide ¶ button does hide Hidden text unless "Hidden text" is explicitly checked in the View Options. The Options setting you describe in Word 2007 is equivalent to the one in Tools | Options | View in previous versions. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Hi Suzanne, But, it does not hide hidden text if it is set to be displayed under Pizza ButtonWord OptionsDisplay. Of course that dialog does say "Always show these formatting marks on the screen" and if the ¶ is checked there, the ¶ in the Paragraph chunk of the Home tab of the Ribbon does not toggle the end of paragraph marks on and off. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... The Show/Hide ¶ button does hide Hidden text unless "Hidden text" is explicitly checked in the View Options. But Stefan was referring to the separate setting under Print Options, which is less likely to be checked (and of course would affect only printing, not display). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Right you are. I could have sworn that in earlier versions the ¶ button hid the display of hidden text as well. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... It certainly works here. Perhaps you forgot to clear the option to print hidden text? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Hi Tony, That does not seem to achieve the desired result in Word 2007 at least. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Tony Jollans" My forename at my surname dot com wrote in message ... You could also format the paragraph mark at the top of the second column as hidden text. -- Enjoy, Tony "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... I think that the best that you can do is to select the paragraph mark (¶) that is at the top of the column and then use format paragraph to remove any space before or after the paragraph and set the line spacing to Exactly 1pt (the minimum). You probably won't be able to tell that the table is 1pt lower. Another way however would be to press enter at the top of the first column to push the text in that column down. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Chris" wrote in message ... I'm putting tables inside of newspaper columns. My first table doesn't necessarily fill the first column, but I want the second table to be at the top of the second column. When I use a column break after the first table, I cannot find any way to get the second table to line up at the top of the second column. There is always a line above the table, and any attempt to delete that line simply deletes the column break. How can I put a table at the top of the second column? |
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If people pay any attention to the headings, then the "Printing options" are
pretty clearly separated from "Always show these formatting marks on screen" (and they're in Display rather than Popular, though "Display" might be misleading). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Indeed, the ¶ button (or the Ctrl+Shift+8 shortcut) toggles the display only of the items not explicitly checked in the options dialog box. I wonder if Word 2007 actually adds to the confusion, since the Options dialog box no longer separates print and display options (for example, the options to print and display hidden text are both in the Popular category of the dialog)... -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... But that has always been true, just not well understood. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... I know that is what you said. The point of my message was that the ¶ button has become a bit redundant as it has no effect if the display of the ¶ is turned on in Word Options. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... That is exactly what I said: The Show/Hide ¶ button does hide Hidden text unless "Hidden text" is explicitly checked in the View Options. The Options setting you describe in Word 2007 is equivalent to the one in Tools | Options | View in previous versions. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Hi Suzanne, But, it does not hide hidden text if it is set to be displayed under Pizza ButtonWord OptionsDisplay. Of course that dialog does say "Always show these formatting marks on the screen" and if the ¶ is checked there, the ¶ in the Paragraph chunk of the Home tab of the Ribbon does not toggle the end of paragraph marks on and off. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... The Show/Hide ¶ button does hide Hidden text unless "Hidden text" is explicitly checked in the View Options. But Stefan was referring to the separate setting under Print Options, which is less likely to be checked (and of course would affect only printing, not display). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Right you are. I could have sworn that in earlier versions the ¶ button hid the display of hidden text as well. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... It certainly works here. Perhaps you forgot to clear the option to print hidden text? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Hi Tony, That does not seem to achieve the desired result in Word 2007 at least. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Tony Jollans" My forename at my surname dot com wrote in message ... You could also format the paragraph mark at the top of the second column as hidden text. -- Enjoy, Tony "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... I think that the best that you can do is to select the paragraph mark (¶) that is at the top of the column and then use format paragraph to remove any space before or after the paragraph and set the line spacing to Exactly 1pt (the minimum). You probably won't be able to tell that the table is 1pt lower. Another way however would be to press enter at the top of the first column to push the text in that column down. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Chris" wrote in message ... I'm putting tables inside of newspaper columns. My first table doesn't necessarily fill the first column, but I want the second table to be at the top of the second column. When I use a column break after the first table, I cannot find any way to get the second table to line up at the top of the second column. There is always a line above the table, and any attempt to delete that line simply deletes the column break. How can I put a table at the top of the second column? |
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Clearly, I contributed to any confusion, by writing the wrong name for the
category. :-( But my point was that the name of the category is not very helpful (in this particular case, at least). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... If people pay any attention to the headings, then the "Printing options" are pretty clearly separated from "Always show these formatting marks on screen" (and they're in Display rather than Popular, though "Display" might be misleading). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Indeed, the ¶ button (or the Ctrl+Shift+8 shortcut) toggles the display only of the items not explicitly checked in the options dialog box. I wonder if Word 2007 actually adds to the confusion, since the Options dialog box no longer separates print and display options (for example, the options to print and display hidden text are both in the Popular category of the dialog)... -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... But that has always been true, just not well understood. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... I know that is what you said. The point of my message was that the ¶ button has become a bit redundant as it has no effect if the display of the ¶ is turned on in Word Options. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... That is exactly what I said: The Show/Hide ¶ button does hide Hidden text unless "Hidden text" is explicitly checked in the View Options. The Options setting you describe in Word 2007 is equivalent to the one in Tools | Options | View in previous versions. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Hi Suzanne, But, it does not hide hidden text if it is set to be displayed under Pizza ButtonWord OptionsDisplay. Of course that dialog does say "Always show these formatting marks on the screen" and if the ¶ is checked there, the ¶ in the Paragraph chunk of the Home tab of the Ribbon does not toggle the end of paragraph marks on and off. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... The Show/Hide ¶ button does hide Hidden text unless "Hidden text" is explicitly checked in the View Options. But Stefan was referring to the separate setting under Print Options, which is less likely to be checked (and of course would affect only printing, not display). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Right you are. I could have sworn that in earlier versions the ¶ button hid the display of hidden text as well. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... It certainly works here. Perhaps you forgot to clear the option to print hidden text? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Hi Tony, That does not seem to achieve the desired result in Word 2007 at least. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Tony Jollans" My forename at my surname dot com wrote in message ... You could also format the paragraph mark at the top of the second column as hidden text. -- Enjoy, Tony "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... I think that the best that you can do is to select the paragraph mark (¶) that is at the top of the column and then use format paragraph to remove any space before or after the paragraph and set the line spacing to Exactly 1pt (the minimum). You probably won't be able to tell that the table is 1pt lower. Another way however would be to press enter at the top of the first column to push the text in that column down. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Chris" wrote in message ... I'm putting tables inside of newspaper columns. My first table doesn't necessarily fill the first column, but I want the second table to be at the top of the second column. When I use a column break after the first table, I cannot find any way to get the second table to line up at the top of the second column. There is always a line above the table, and any attempt to delete that line simply deletes the column break. How can I put a table at the top of the second column? |
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I agree about that. They could at least have called it Display/Print, but
there are so few Print Options there that I assume the rest are somewhere else (haven't explored it thoroughly, as so far I'm just looking for the things I need immediately). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Clearly, I contributed to any confusion, by writing the wrong name for the category. :-( But my point was that the name of the category is not very helpful (in this particular case, at least). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... If people pay any attention to the headings, then the "Printing options" are pretty clearly separated from "Always show these formatting marks on screen" (and they're in Display rather than Popular, though "Display" might be misleading). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Indeed, the ¶ button (or the Ctrl+Shift+8 shortcut) toggles the display only of the items not explicitly checked in the options dialog box. I wonder if Word 2007 actually adds to the confusion, since the Options dialog box no longer separates print and display options (for example, the options to print and display hidden text are both in the Popular category of the dialog)... -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... But that has always been true, just not well understood. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... I know that is what you said. The point of my message was that the ¶ button has become a bit redundant as it has no effect if the display of the ¶ is turned on in Word Options. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... That is exactly what I said: The Show/Hide ¶ button does hide Hidden text unless "Hidden text" is explicitly checked in the View Options. The Options setting you describe in Word 2007 is equivalent to the one in Tools | Options | View in previous versions. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Hi Suzanne, But, it does not hide hidden text if it is set to be displayed under Pizza ButtonWord OptionsDisplay. Of course that dialog does say "Always show these formatting marks on the screen" and if the ¶ is checked there, the ¶ in the Paragraph chunk of the Home tab of the Ribbon does not toggle the end of paragraph marks on and off. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... The Show/Hide ¶ button does hide Hidden text unless "Hidden text" is explicitly checked in the View Options. But Stefan was referring to the separate setting under Print Options, which is less likely to be checked (and of course would affect only printing, not display). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Right you are. I could have sworn that in earlier versions the ¶ button hid the display of hidden text as well. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... It certainly works here. Perhaps you forgot to clear the option to print hidden text? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Hi Tony, That does not seem to achieve the desired result in Word 2007 at least. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Tony Jollans" My forename at my surname dot com wrote in message ... You could also format the paragraph mark at the top of the second column as hidden text. -- Enjoy, Tony "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... I think that the best that you can do is to select the paragraph mark (¶) that is at the top of the column and then use format paragraph to remove any space before or after the paragraph and set the line spacing to Exactly 1pt (the minimum). You probably won't be able to tell that the table is 1pt lower. Another way however would be to press enter at the top of the first column to push the text in that column down. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Chris" wrote in message ... I'm putting tables inside of newspaper columns. My first table doesn't necessarily fill the first column, but I want the second table to be at the top of the second column. When I use a column break after the first table, I cannot find any way to get the second table to line up at the top of the second column. There is always a line above the table, and any attempt to delete that line simply deletes the column break. How can I put a table at the top of the second column? |
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More print options are found in the Advanced category. But, then again,
there are also more display options there... I'd say that the Advanced category contains far too many options, most of which are really no more "advanced" than, say, the options in the Display category. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I agree about that. They could at least have called it Display/Print, but there are so few Print Options there that I assume the rest are somewhere else (haven't explored it thoroughly, as so far I'm just looking for the things I need immediately). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Clearly, I contributed to any confusion, by writing the wrong name for the category. :-( But my point was that the name of the category is not very helpful (in this particular case, at least). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... If people pay any attention to the headings, then the "Printing options" are pretty clearly separated from "Always show these formatting marks on screen" (and they're in Display rather than Popular, though "Display" might be misleading). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Indeed, the ¶ button (or the Ctrl+Shift+8 shortcut) toggles the display only of the items not explicitly checked in the options dialog box. I wonder if Word 2007 actually adds to the confusion, since the Options dialog box no longer separates print and display options (for example, the options to print and display hidden text are both in the Popular category of the dialog)... -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... But that has always been true, just not well understood. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... I know that is what you said. The point of my message was that the ¶ button has become a bit redundant as it has no effect if the display of the ¶ is turned on in Word Options. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... That is exactly what I said: The Show/Hide ¶ button does hide Hidden text unless "Hidden text" is explicitly checked in the View Options. The Options setting you describe in Word 2007 is equivalent to the one in Tools | Options | View in previous versions. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Hi Suzanne, But, it does not hide hidden text if it is set to be displayed under Pizza ButtonWord OptionsDisplay. Of course that dialog does say "Always show these formatting marks on the screen" and if the ¶ is checked there, the ¶ in the Paragraph chunk of the Home tab of the Ribbon does not toggle the end of paragraph marks on and off. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... The Show/Hide ¶ button does hide Hidden text unless "Hidden text" is explicitly checked in the View Options. But Stefan was referring to the separate setting under Print Options, which is less likely to be checked (and of course would affect only printing, not display). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Right you are. I could have sworn that in earlier versions the ¶ button hid the display of hidden text as well. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... It certainly works here. Perhaps you forgot to clear the option to print hidden text? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Hi Tony, That does not seem to achieve the desired result in Word 2007 at least. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Tony Jollans" My forename at my surname dot com wrote in message ... You could also format the paragraph mark at the top of the second column as hidden text. -- Enjoy, Tony "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... I think that the best that you can do is to select the paragraph mark (¶) that is at the top of the column and then use format paragraph to remove any space before or after the paragraph and set the line spacing to Exactly 1pt (the minimum). You probably won't be able to tell that the table is 1pt lower. Another way however would be to press enter at the top of the first column to push the text in that column down. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Chris" wrote in message ... I'm putting tables inside of newspaper columns. My first table doesn't necessarily fill the first column, but I want the second table to be at the top of the second column. When I use a column break after the first table, I cannot find any way to get the second table to line up at the top of the second column. There is always a line above the table, and any attempt to delete that line simply deletes the column break. How can I put a table at the top of the second column? |
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Put table at top of second newspaper column after column break
Somewhere in these NGs, a user yesterday expressed surprise that a given
option would be considered "Advanced." I think most of us feel that way about many of the options we regard as basic. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... More print options are found in the Advanced category. But, then again, there are also more display options there... I'd say that the Advanced category contains far too many options, most of which are really no more "advanced" than, say, the options in the Display category. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I agree about that. They could at least have called it Display/Print, but there are so few Print Options there that I assume the rest are somewhere else (haven't explored it thoroughly, as so far I'm just looking for the things I need immediately). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Clearly, I contributed to any confusion, by writing the wrong name for the category. :-( But my point was that the name of the category is not very helpful (in this particular case, at least). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... If people pay any attention to the headings, then the "Printing options" are pretty clearly separated from "Always show these formatting marks on screen" (and they're in Display rather than Popular, though "Display" might be misleading). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Indeed, the ¶ button (or the Ctrl+Shift+8 shortcut) toggles the display only of the items not explicitly checked in the options dialog box. I wonder if Word 2007 actually adds to the confusion, since the Options dialog box no longer separates print and display options (for example, the options to print and display hidden text are both in the Popular category of the dialog)... -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... But that has always been true, just not well understood. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... I know that is what you said. The point of my message was that the ¶ button has become a bit redundant as it has no effect if the display of the ¶ is turned on in Word Options. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... That is exactly what I said: The Show/Hide ¶ button does hide Hidden text unless "Hidden text" is explicitly checked in the View Options. The Options setting you describe in Word 2007 is equivalent to the one in Tools | Options | View in previous versions. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Hi Suzanne, But, it does not hide hidden text if it is set to be displayed under Pizza ButtonWord OptionsDisplay. Of course that dialog does say "Always show these formatting marks on the screen" and if the ¶ is checked there, the ¶ in the Paragraph chunk of the Home tab of the Ribbon does not toggle the end of paragraph marks on and off. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... The Show/Hide ¶ button does hide Hidden text unless "Hidden text" is explicitly checked in the View Options. But Stefan was referring to the separate setting under Print Options, which is less likely to be checked (and of course would affect only printing, not display). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Right you are. I could have sworn that in earlier versions the ¶ button hid the display of hidden text as well. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... It certainly works here. Perhaps you forgot to clear the option to print hidden text? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Hi Tony, That does not seem to achieve the desired result in Word 2007 at least. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Tony Jollans" My forename at my surname dot com wrote in message ... You could also format the paragraph mark at the top of the second column as hidden text. -- Enjoy, Tony "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... I think that the best that you can do is to select the paragraph mark (¶) that is at the top of the column and then use format paragraph to remove any space before or after the paragraph and set the line spacing to Exactly 1pt (the minimum). You probably won't be able to tell that the table is 1pt lower. Another way however would be to press enter at the top of the first column to push the text in that column down. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Chris" wrote in message ... I'm putting tables inside of newspaper columns. My first table doesn't necessarily fill the first column, but I want the second table to be at the top of the second column. When I use a column break after the first table, I cannot find any way to get the second table to line up at the top of the second column. There is always a line above the table, and any attempt to delete that line simply deletes the column break. How can I put a table at the top of the second column? |
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