A challenging question on text boxes-word 2000

Dear all
I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between them I'd like
to put a page full with several pictures . I would like this text box to be
as big as the area between my margins so that no text from the 2 mentioned
pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text box to stay in place,
actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text to be placed
in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float nicely between page 1 and 3
without any break of any kind.
results: Due to the size, the text box moves although I said it shouldn't
(do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at the right
place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages typically hides behind my text
box although i did not allow overlap.
Do you have a solution to this?
by advance, Thanks.

A text box is a drawing object. Objects in the drawing layer must be
anchored to text in the text layer. You cannot have a text box on a page
with no text. Period.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"fw76" wrote in message
...
Dear all
I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between them I'd
like
to put a page full with several pictures . I would like this text box to
be
as big as the area between my margins so that no text from the 2 mentioned
pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text box to stay in place,
actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text to be
placed
in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float nicely between page 1 and
3
without any break of any kind.
results: Due to the size, the text box moves although I said it shouldn't
(do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at the
right
place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages typically hides behind my
text
box although i did not allow overlap.
Do you have a solution to this?
by advance, Thanks.

I did not know this, thank you. Would you have any suggestion on how to
achieve what I wish to do? This should possible with Word.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

A text box is a drawing object. Objects in the drawing layer must be
anchored to text in the text layer. You cannot have a text box on a page
with no text. Period.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"fw76" wrote in message
...
Dear all
I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between them I'd
like
to put a page full with several pictures . I would like this text box to
be
as big as the area between my margins so that no text from the 2 mentioned
pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text box to stay in place,
actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text to be
placed
in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float nicely between page 1 and
3
without any break of any kind.
results: Due to the size, the text box moves although I said it shouldn't
(do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at the
right
place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages typically hides behind my
text
box although i did not allow overlap.
Do you have a solution to this?
by advance, Thanks.

This is crude, but perhaps you could put a 1 point period
on each page, anchor 3 full page textboxes (one to each
period), create a link from textbox 1 to text box 3,
format textbox 1 and 3 with no fill or border.


-----Original Message-----
I did not know this, thank you. Would you have any
suggestion on how to
achieve what I wish to do? This should possible with Word.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

A text box is a drawing object. Objects in the drawing
layer must be
anchored to text in the text layer. You cannot have a
text box on a page
with no text. Period.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-
ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"fw76" wrote in message
news:6C94BC78-8A0E-4882-A6EA-
...
Dear all
I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of
text.between them I'd
like
to put a page full with several pictures . I would
like this text box to
be
as big as the area between my margins so that no text
from the 2 mentioned
pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text
box to stay in place,
actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages
full of text to be
placed
in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float
nicely between page 1 and
3
without any break of any kind.
results: Due to the size, the text box moves although
I said it shouldn't
(do not move with text). If I manage to make the text
box stay at the
right
place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages
typically hides behind my
text
box although i did not allow overlap.
Do you have a solution to this?
by advance, Thanks.


.

This doesn't help, Greg. You can anchor a text box just as well to an empty
paragraph, but the problem is that this paragraph will interrupt the text
flow. There is no way to have a full-page wrapped graphic--that is, one that
text on the previous and next pages can flow back and forth around.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg" wrote in message
...
This is crude, but perhaps you could put a 1 point period
on each page, anchor 3 full page textboxes (one to each
period), create a link from textbox 1 to text box 3,
format textbox 1 and 3 with no fill or border.


-----Original Message-----
I did not know this, thank you. Would you have any
suggestion on how to
achieve what I wish to do? This should possible with Word.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

A text box is a drawing object. Objects in the drawing
layer must be
anchored to text in the text layer. You cannot have a
text box on a page
with no text. Period.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-
ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"fw76" wrote in message
news:6C94BC78-8A0E-4882-A6EA-
...
Dear all
I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of
text.between them I'd
like
to put a page full with several pictures . I would
like this text box to
be
as big as the area between my margins so that no text
from the 2 mentioned
pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text
box to stay in place,
actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages
full of text to be
placed
in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float
nicely between page 1 and
3
without any break of any kind.
results: Due to the size, the text box moves although
I said it shouldn't
(do not move with text). If I manage to make the text
box stay at the
right
place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages
typically hides behind my
text
box although i did not allow overlap.
Do you have a solution to this?
by advance, Thanks.


.

Word is not page layout software; it's designed to allow text to flow
freely, not to be built up in static pages. The way I approach a problem of
this sort is as follows:

1. I don't even try to introduce any full-page graphics until editing is
complete. I may insert a marker such as "[Figure 2 goes here]."

2. When editing is complete, so that I'm sure the page makeup will not
change, I insert a manual page break at the end of the page before the
full-page graphic (more on this later).

3. Since a wrapped graphic has to be anchored to a text paragraph, you might
as well make it inline instead. You can insert graphic and caption together
in two text paragraphs or in two single-column rows of a borderless
table--whatever works for you.

4. Let's say the graphic is on page 2, with text on pages 1 and 3. If page 1
ends in the middle of a paragraph, you will have some additional work to do
if the paragraph (a) is justified, (b) has a first-line indent, or (c) has
Space Before. For (c), it's easier just to format body text with Space After
instead. For (b), you will need to either manually remove the first-line
indent from the first paragraph on page 3 or (better) apply an unindented
style. I have Body Text and Body Text First Indent styles for this purpose
(and others). For (b), you will need to insert a line break (to justify the
last line), and then format the paragraph mark (on the next line) as 1 pt to
keep it from breaking to the next page.

FWIW, if you can rethink your design so that each "full-page" graphic can
coexist with a couple of lines of body text on the page, your task will be
much easier. You can anchor the graphic to the paragraph in which it is
referenced and set its position to Top or Bottom Relative to Margin, which
will assure that it stays in the same place, regardless of what page it is
on (but it will always be on the same page with the paragraph to which it is
anchored).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"fw76" wrote in message
...
I did not know this, thank you. Would you have any suggestion on how to
achieve what I wish to do? This should possible with Word.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

A text box is a drawing object. Objects in the drawing layer must be
anchored to text in the text layer. You cannot have a text box on a page
with no text. Period.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"fw76" wrote in message
...
Dear all
I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between them I'd
like
to put a page full with several pictures . I would like this text box
to
be
as big as the area between my margins so that no text from the 2
mentioned
pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text box to stay in
place,
actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text to be
placed
in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float nicely between page 1
and
3
without any break of any kind.
results: Due to the size, the text box moves although I said it
shouldn't
(do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at the
right
place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages typically hides behind
my
text
box although i did not allow overlap.
Do you have a solution to this?
by advance, Thanks.

Suzanne,

I will have to try this again when I have time. I used three margin sized
text boxes in three sections anchored to a 1pt empty space, I linked the
first to the third and formatted them with no fill or borders (they looked
like a blank page), the second I left with fill and borders. I am pretty
sure that as I typed in the first TB it spilled over and filled the third
leaving the second on page 2 unaffected. I could be wrong.

--
Greg Maxey
A peer in "peer to peer" support
Rockledge, FL
To e-mail, edit out the "w...spam" in

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
This doesn't help, Greg. You can anchor a text box just as well to an
empty paragraph, but the problem is that this paragraph will
interrupt the text flow. There is no way to have a full-page wrapped
graphic--that is, one that text on the previous and next pages can
flow back and forth around.


"Greg" wrote in message
...
This is crude, but perhaps you could put a 1 point period
on each page, anchor 3 full page textboxes (one to each
period), create a link from textbox 1 to text box 3,
format textbox 1 and 3 with no fill or border.


-----Original Message-----
I did not know this, thank you. Would you have any
suggestion on how to
achieve what I wish to do? This should possible with Word.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

A text box is a drawing object. Objects in the drawing
layer must be
anchored to text in the text layer. You cannot have a
text box on a page
with no text. Period.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-
ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"fw76" wrote in message
news:6C94BC78-8A0E-4882-A6EA-
...
Dear all
I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between
them I'd like to put a page full with several pictures . I would
like this text box to be as big as the area between my margins so
that no text
from the 2 mentioned
pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text
box to stay in place,
actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text
to be placed in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float
nicely between page 1 and 3 without any break of any kind.
results: Due to the size, the text box moves although
I said it shouldn't
(do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at
the right place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages
typically hides behind my text box although i did not allow
overlap.
Do you have a solution to this?
by advance, Thanks.


.

Well, yes, you could do this using text boxes on all three pages, but if you
consider that "page 1" and "page 3" are really just shorthand for "page
before the full-page graphic" and "page after the full-page graphic" and
that the text in question might actually be hundreds of pages long, with
numerous full-page graphics (whereas Word limits the number of linked text
boxes to 32 *and* severely limits formatting inside text boxes), I think
you'll see this is not really a viable solution.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

I will have to try this again when I have time. I used three margin sized
text boxes in three sections anchored to a 1pt empty space, I linked the
first to the third and formatted them with no fill or borders (they looked
like a blank page), the second I left with fill and borders. I am pretty
sure that as I typed in the first TB it spilled over and filled the third
leaving the second on page 2 unaffected. I could be wrong.

--
Greg Maxey
A peer in "peer to peer" support
Rockledge, FL
To e-mail, edit out the "w...spam" in

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
This doesn't help, Greg. You can anchor a text box just as well to an
empty paragraph, but the problem is that this paragraph will
interrupt the text flow. There is no way to have a full-page wrapped
graphic--that is, one that text on the previous and next pages can
flow back and forth around.


"Greg" wrote in message
...
This is crude, but perhaps you could put a 1 point period
on each page, anchor 3 full page textboxes (one to each
period), create a link from textbox 1 to text box 3,
format textbox 1 and 3 with no fill or border.


-----Original Message-----
I did not know this, thank you. Would you have any
suggestion on how to
achieve what I wish to do? This should possible with Word.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

A text box is a drawing object. Objects in the drawing
layer must be
anchored to text in the text layer. You cannot have a
text box on a page
with no text. Period.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-
ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"fw76" wrote in message
news:6C94BC78-8A0E-4882-A6EA-
...
Dear all
I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between
them I'd like to put a page full with several pictures . I would
like this text box to be as big as the area between my margins so
that no text
from the 2 mentioned
pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text
box to stay in place,
actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text
to be placed in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float
nicely between page 1 and 3 without any break of any kind.
results: Due to the size, the text box moves although
I said it shouldn't
(do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at
the right place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages
typically hides behind my text box although i did not allow
overlap.
Do you have a solution to this?
by advance, Thanks.


.

Suzanne,

I disagree. While it is clearly not a viable solution for the larger
problem you identified, it is a crude solution for the problem at hand
(i.e., the OP wants text to flow from something (humor me and call it a
page), to something else (call it a page too) on the other side of a full
page graphic without messing with the graphic. Adapt, improvise, and
overcome. :-)



--
Greg Maxey
A peer in "peer to peer" support
Rockledge, FL
To e-mail, edit out the "w...spam" in

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Well, yes, you could do this using text boxes on all three pages, but
if you consider that "page 1" and "page 3" are really just shorthand
for "page before the full-page graphic" and "page after the full-page
graphic" and that the text in question might actually be hundreds of
pages long, with numerous full-page graphics (whereas Word limits the
number of linked text boxes to 32 *and* severely limits formatting
inside text boxes), I think you'll see this is not really a viable
solution.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

I will have to try this again when I have time. I used three margin
sized text boxes in three sections anchored to a 1pt empty space, I
linked the first to the third and formatted them with no fill or
borders (they looked like a blank page), the second I left with fill
and borders. I am pretty sure that as I typed in the first TB it
spilled over and filled the third leaving the second on page 2
unaffected. I could be wrong.

--
Greg Maxey
A peer in "peer to peer" support
Rockledge, FL
To e-mail, edit out the "w...spam" in

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
This doesn't help, Greg. You can anchor a text box just as well to
an empty paragraph, but the problem is that this paragraph will
interrupt the text flow. There is no way to have a full-page wrapped
graphic--that is, one that text on the previous and next pages can
flow back and forth around.


"Greg" wrote in message
...
This is crude, but perhaps you could put a 1 point period
on each page, anchor 3 full page textboxes (one to each
period), create a link from textbox 1 to text box 3,
format textbox 1 and 3 with no fill or border.


-----Original Message-----
I did not know this, thank you. Would you have any
suggestion on how to
achieve what I wish to do? This should possible with Word.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

A text box is a drawing object. Objects in the drawing
layer must be
anchored to text in the text layer. You cannot have a
text box on a page
with no text. Period.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-
ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"fw76" wrote in message
news:6C94BC78-8A0E-4882-A6EA-
...
Dear all
I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between
them I'd like to put a page full with several pictures . I would
like this text box to be as big as the area between my margins
so that no text
from the 2 mentioned
pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text
box to stay in place,
actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text
to be placed in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float
nicely between page 1 and 3 without any break of any kind.
results: Due to the size, the text box moves although
I said it shouldn't
(do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay
at the right place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages
typically hides behind my text box although i did not allow
overlap.
Do you have a solution to this?
by advance, Thanks.


.

The OP is the final arbiter, but I would be very surprised if his document
is only three pages long.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

I disagree. While it is clearly not a viable solution for the larger
problem you identified, it is a crude solution for the problem at hand
(i.e., the OP wants text to flow from something (humor me and call it a
page), to something else (call it a page too) on the other side of a full
page graphic without messing with the graphic. Adapt, improvise, and
overcome. :-)



--
Greg Maxey
A peer in "peer to peer" support
Rockledge, FL
To e-mail, edit out the "w...spam" in

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Well, yes, you could do this using text boxes on all three pages, but
if you consider that "page 1" and "page 3" are really just shorthand
for "page before the full-page graphic" and "page after the full-page
graphic" and that the text in question might actually be hundreds of
pages long, with numerous full-page graphics (whereas Word limits the
number of linked text boxes to 32 *and* severely limits formatting
inside text boxes), I think you'll see this is not really a viable
solution.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

I will have to try this again when I have time. I used three margin
sized text boxes in three sections anchored to a 1pt empty space, I
linked the first to the third and formatted them with no fill or
borders (they looked like a blank page), the second I left with fill
and borders. I am pretty sure that as I typed in the first TB it
spilled over and filled the third leaving the second on page 2
unaffected. I could be wrong.

--
Greg Maxey
A peer in "peer to peer" support
Rockledge, FL
To e-mail, edit out the "w...spam" in

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
This doesn't help, Greg. You can anchor a text box just as well to
an empty paragraph, but the problem is that this paragraph will
interrupt the text flow. There is no way to have a full-page wrapped
graphic--that is, one that text on the previous and next pages can
flow back and forth around.


"Greg" wrote in message
...
This is crude, but perhaps you could put a 1 point period
on each page, anchor 3 full page textboxes (one to each
period), create a link from textbox 1 to text box 3,
format textbox 1 and 3 with no fill or border.


-----Original Message-----
I did not know this, thank you. Would you have any
suggestion on how to
achieve what I wish to do? This should possible with Word.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

A text box is a drawing object. Objects in the drawing
layer must be
anchored to text in the text layer. You cannot have a
text box on a page
with no text. Period.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-
ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"fw76" wrote in message
news:6C94BC78-8A0E-4882-A6EA-
...
Dear all
I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between
them I'd like to put a page full with several pictures . I would
like this text box to be as big as the area between my margins
so that no text
from the 2 mentioned
pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text
box to stay in place,
actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text
to be placed in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float
nicely between page 1 and 3 without any break of any kind.
results: Due to the size, the text box moves although
I said it shouldn't
(do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay
at the right place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages
typically hides behind my text box although i did not allow
overlap.
Do you have a solution to this?
by advance, Thanks.


.