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Old July 15th, 2009, 02:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
RichardGarfield via AccessMonster.com
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Default Table design with many similar fields

Hi

I am designing a classical music database and am a bit stuck on how to manage
the movements of a work.

I have a table Work (primary key WorkID and linked to Artist, Composer etc)
which can have numerous individual movements, each of which has a duration. I
want to avoid the Work table having a load of fields like Movemnt1, Movemnt 2
etc, and Duration1, Duration2, etc.

How can I link to a Movement table for instance, where I do not have to
predefine the maximum number of possible movements as fields - a work might
have 20 or more movements?

I would really appreciate some expert advice.

Thanks

Richard

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Old July 15th, 2009, 03:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Allen Browne
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Default Table design with many similar fields

Create a related table for the movements. Fields:
- WorkID relates to your main table
- MovementNum Number
- MovementName Text
Use the combination of WorkID + MovementNum as the primary key.

For each work, this table can have as many records as the work has
movements.

To interface it, use a main form for the work, with a subform (in Continuous
View) for the movements (one per row.)

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Reply to group, rather than allenbrowne at mvps dot org.

"RichardGarfield via AccessMonster.com" u52844@uwe wrote in message
news:991c90b1b7511@uwe...
Hi

I am designing a classical music database and am a bit stuck on how to
manage
the movements of a work.

I have a table Work (primary key WorkID and linked to Artist, Composer
etc)
which can have numerous individual movements, each of which has a
duration. I
want to avoid the Work table having a load of fields like Movemnt1,
Movemnt 2
etc, and Duration1, Duration2, etc.

How can I link to a Movement table for instance, where I do not have to
predefine the maximum number of possible movements as fields - a work
might
have 20 or more movements?

I would really appreciate some expert advice.

Thanks

Richard

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Old July 15th, 2009, 03:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
RichardGarfield via AccessMonster.com
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Default Table design with many similar fields

Many thanks, Allen, that's exactly what I needed. I will just add a
MovementDuration field.

Regards

Richard

Allen Browne wrote:
Create a related table for the movements. Fields:
- WorkID relates to your main table
- MovementNum Number
- MovementName Text
Use the combination of WorkID + MovementNum as the primary key.

For each work, this table can have as many records as the work has
movements.

To interface it, use a main form for the work, with a subform (in Continuous
View) for the movements (one per row.)

Hi

[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]

Richard


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Old July 15th, 2009, 04:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Keith Wilby
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Default Table design with many similar fields

"Steve" garbage_available_at_very_inflated_rates@ignoreme .com wrote in
message ...

I would charhe a modest fee to do this.


That's because you're a slime-ball as can be seen he

http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html

The OP got a freebie from a most reputable source which is exactly what this
group is for.

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Old July 15th, 2009, 04:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Beetle
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Default Table design with many similar fields

Your lack of integrity is astounding.

To the OP:

This purpose of this news group is to provide FREE support, a fact
which Steve is fully aware of but chooses to ignore. If you want
to know more about Steve, see this link;

http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html

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Sean Bailey


"Steve" wrote:

Hi Richard,

If you have the music files for the complete work, I can add to your
database to play the work through Windows Media Player. If you have separate
music files for wach movement, I can add to your database to play a selected
movement through Windows Media Player. I would charhe a modest fee to do
this.

Steve




"RichardGarfield via AccessMonster.com" u52844@uwe wrote in message
news:991c90b1b7511@uwe...
Hi

I am designing a classical music database and am a bit stuck on how to
manage
the movements of a work.

I have a table Work (primary key WorkID and linked to Artist, Composer
etc)
which can have numerous individual movements, each of which has a
duration. I
want to avoid the Work table having a load of fields like Movemnt1,
Movemnt 2
etc, and Duration1, Duration2, etc.

How can I link to a Movement table for instance, where I do not have to
predefine the maximum number of possible movements as fields - a work
might
have 20 or more movements?

I would really appreciate some expert advice.

Thanks

Richard

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Old July 15th, 2009, 04:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
RichardGarfield via AccessMonster.com
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Default Table design with many similar fields

Thanks to all (except Steve) for the advice.

I have had the benefit of Allen's experience before on the MS Community site,
so am well aware of how it works.

As for the other person's chutzpah, it demeans only himself and is better
ignored, although it tends to make these threads longer than really necessary
as each genuine advisor vents their anger.

Regards

Richard

Beetle wrote:
Your lack of integrity is astounding.

To the OP:

This purpose of this news group is to provide FREE support, a fact
which Steve is fully aware of but chooses to ignore. If you want
to know more about Steve, see this link;

http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html

Hi Richard,

[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]

Richard


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Old July 15th, 2009, 05:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
John... Visio MVP
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Default Table design with many similar fields - our favourite troll is at it again

"Steve" help_available_at_very_reasonable_rates@contactme .com wrote in
message ...
Hi Richard,

If you have the music files for the complete work, I can add to your
database to play the work through Windows Media Player. If you have
separate music files for wach movement, I can add to your database to play
a selected movement through Windows Media Player. I would charhe a modest
fee to do this.

Steve




These newsgroups are provided by Microsoft for FREE peer to peer support.
There are many highly qualified individuals who gladly help for free. Stevie
is not one of them, but he is the only one who just does not get the idea of
"FREE" support. He offers questionable results at unreasonable prices. If he
was any good, the "thousands" of people he claims to have helped would be
flooding him with work, but there appears to be a continuous drought and he
needs to constantly grovel for work.

A few gems gleaned from the Word New User newsgroup over the Christmas
holidays to show Stevie's "expertise" in Word.


Dec 17, 2008 7:47 pm

Word 2007 ..........
In older versions of Word you could highlght some text then go to Format -
Change Case and change the case of the hoghloghted text. Is this still
available in Word 2007? Where?
Thanks! Steve


Dec 22, 2008 8:22 pm

I am designing a series of paystubs for a client. I start in landscape and
draw a table then add columns and rows to setup labels and their
corresponding value. This all works fine. After a landscape version is
completed, I next need to design a portrait version. Rather than strating
from scratch, I'd like to be able to cut and paste from the landscape
version and design the portrait version.
Steve


Dec 24, 2008, 1:12 PM

How do you protect the document for filling in forms?
Steve


One of my favourites:
Dec 30, 2008 8:07 PM - a reply to stevie
(The original poster asked how to sort a list and stevie offered to create
the OP an Access database)

Steve wrote:
Yes, you are right but a database is the correct tool to use not a
spreadsheet.



Not at all. If it's just a simple list then a spreadsheet is perfectly
adequate...




John... Visio MVP

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Old July 15th, 2009, 08:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Piet Linden[_2_]
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Default Table design with many similar fields

On Jul 15, 9:49*am, "Steve"
help_available_at_very_reasonable_ra...@contactme .com wrote:
Hi Richard,

If you have the music files for the complete work, I can add to your
database to play the work through Windows Media Player. If you have separate
music files for wach movement, I can add to your database to play a selected
movement through Windows Media Player. I would charhe a modest fee to do
this.

Steve


"RichardGarfield via AccessMonster.com" u52844@uwe wrote in messagenews:991c90b1b7511@uwe...

Hi


I am designing a classical music database and am a bit stuck on how to
manage
the movements of a work.


I have a table Work (primary key WorkID and linked to Artist, Composer
etc)
which can have numerous individual movements, each of which has a
duration. I
want to avoid the Work table having a load of fields like Movemnt1,
Movemnt 2
etc, and Duration1, Duration2, etc.


How can I link to a Movement table for instance, where I do not have to
predefine the maximum number of possible movements as fields - a work
might
have 20 or more movements?


I would really appreciate some expert advice.


Thanks


Richard


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so can pretty much anybody... use some API code... PlaySound from
www.mvps.org
Don't trust this clown. He's just after your money.
 




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