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  #1  
Old June 6th, 2004, 07:51 PM
SiennaSys
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Default Newbie: Subheaders and text side-by-side layout

Formally, I had a template so that in a report, I would have a table so that I could have the sub headers on the left side of the page and the text would be parallel to the header on the right side of the page. So it might look like this:


Subheader1 ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj


Subheader2 ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj


footer

foot note



But between the table breaks and the footers and foot notes, it is murder toi keep up. Is there a simpler way to simpler template anyone can recommend
  #2  
Old June 7th, 2004, 02:16 AM
garfield-n-odie
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Default Newbie: Subheaders and text side-by-side layout

Using a table is probably how I would have done this. If you have Word
XP or 2003, there is a way to do this without a table, but it's not any
"better" in terms of footers and footnotes. What issues are you having
with table breaks, footers, and footnotes?


SiennaSys wrote:

Formally, I had a template so that in a report, I would have a table so that I could have the sub headers on the left side of the page and the text would be parallel to the header on the right side of the page. So it might look like this:


Subheader1 ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj


Subheader2 ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj


footer

foot note



But between the table breaks and the footers and foot notes, it is murder toi keep up. Is there a simpler way to simpler template anyone can recommend


  #3  
Old June 9th, 2004, 07:09 AM
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Newbie: Subheaders and text side-by-side layout

Another way to get this particular layout (where the sidehead never exceeds
one line) is to use a hanging indent.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"garfield-n-odie" wrote in message
...
Using a table is probably how I would have done this. If you have Word
XP or 2003, there is a way to do this without a table, but it's not any
"better" in terms of footers and footnotes. What issues are you having
with table breaks, footers, and footnotes?


SiennaSys wrote:

Formally, I had a template so that in a report, I would have a table so

that I could have the sub headers on the left side of the page and the text
would be parallel to the header on the right side of the page. So it might
look like this:


Subheader1 ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj


Subheader2 ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj


footer

foot note



But between the table breaks and the footers and foot notes, it is

murder toi keep up. Is there a simpler way to simpler template anyone can
recommend


  #4  
Old June 9th, 2004, 08:21 AM
garfield-n-odie
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Default Newbie: Subheaders and text side-by-side layout

Hi Suzanne. You're right, a hanging indent would work too, but I didn't
see an advantage to it relative to the OP's comment that using a table
made footnotes and footers "murder to keep up". g-n-o


Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Another way to get this particular layout (where the sidehead never exceeds
one line) is to use a hanging indent.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"garfield-n-odie" wrote in message
...

Using a table is probably how I would have done this. If you have Word
XP or 2003, there is a way to do this without a table, but it's not any
"better" in terms of footers and footnotes. What issues are you having
with table breaks, footers, and footnotes?


SiennaSys wrote:


Formally, I had a template so that in a report, I would have a table so


that I could have the sub headers on the left side of the page and the text
would be parallel to the header on the right side of the page. So it might
look like this:


Subheader1 ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj


Subheader2 ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj


footer

foot note



But between the table breaks and the footers and foot notes, it is


murder toi keep up. Is there a simpler way to simpler template anyone can
recommend



  #5  
Old June 9th, 2004, 03:02 PM
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Newbie: Subheaders and text side-by-side layout

I'm not sure why either footers or footnotes would be a problem in either
case, but perhaps I'm being dense?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"garfield-n-odie" wrote in message
...
Hi Suzanne. You're right, a hanging indent would work too, but I didn't
see an advantage to it relative to the OP's comment that using a table
made footnotes and footers "murder to keep up". g-n-o


Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Another way to get this particular layout (where the sidehead never

exceeds
one line) is to use a hanging indent.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"garfield-n-odie" wrote in message
...

Using a table is probably how I would have done this. If you have Word
XP or 2003, there is a way to do this without a table, but it's not any
"better" in terms of footers and footnotes. What issues are you having
with table breaks, footers, and footnotes?


SiennaSys wrote:


Formally, I had a template so that in a report, I would have a table so


that I could have the sub headers on the left side of the page and the

text
would be parallel to the header on the right side of the page. So it

might
look like this:


Subheader1 ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj


Subheader2 ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj


footer

foot note



But between the table breaks and the footers and foot notes, it is


murder toi keep up. Is there a simpler way to simpler template anyone

can
recommend




  #6  
Old June 9th, 2004, 04:06 PM
garfield-n-odie
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Default Newbie: Subheaders and text side-by-side layout

I agree, footers and footnotes shouldn't be a problem either way, so
maybe I'm the dense one because I don't understand why you suggested
using hanging indents. What's the point in telling the OP to do it
differently when there's no advantage to the alternative method?
Instead, I gave the OP a warm fuzzy by saying that how he/she did it was
how I might have done it too. My humble apologies to you and the
newsgroup if that was the wrong answer.


Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:

I'm not sure why either footers or footnotes would be a problem in either
case, but perhaps I'm being dense?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"garfield-n-odie" wrote in message
...

Hi Suzanne. You're right, a hanging indent would work too, but I didn't
see an advantage to it relative to the OP's comment that using a table
made footnotes and footers "murder to keep up". g-n-o


Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:

Another way to get this particular layout (where the sidehead never


exceeds

one line) is to use a hanging indent.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the


newsgroup so

all may benefit.

"garfield-n-odie" wrote in message
...


Using a table is probably how I would have done this. If you have Word
XP or 2003, there is a way to do this without a table, but it's not any
"better" in terms of footers and footnotes. What issues are you having
with table breaks, footers, and footnotes?


SiennaSys wrote:



Formally, I had a template so that in a report, I would have a table so

that I could have the sub headers on the left side of the page and the


text

would be parallel to the header on the right side of the page. So it


might

look like this:


Subheader1 ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj


Subheader2 ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj


footer

foot note



But between the table breaks and the footers and foot notes, it is

murder toi keep up. Is there a simpler way to simpler template anyone


can

recommend





  #7  
Old June 10th, 2004, 12:22 AM
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Newbie: Subheaders and text side-by-side layout

I didn't suggest that a hanging indent was better than a table (though if
the truth were known, I think it probably is), just that it was another way
to achieve the result. One of Word's strengths is that there are often
several ways to do something, and I like to think that users would like to
be aware of their options. In this case, if all the paragraphs in the
document are set up this way, then in effect the entire document is a table,
which is probably not a good idea. Long tables slow Word down and seem to be
a hotbed of corruption, so avoiding them when possible (though certainly not
going out of one's way to avoid them when they're the only sensible
solution) seems like a good idea to me.

As I say, I don't think I had any motive other than variety in suggesting a
hanging indent (but since I was probably severely jetlagged when I posted
that, I can't be sure), but I was puzzled as to how the issue of footers and
footnotes came into this at all. Having read further into one of the other
NGs I subscribe to and seen another thread that seems to touch on this, I
gather that there's more going on than I realized, so I'll bow out.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"garfield-n-odie" wrote in message
...
I agree, footers and footnotes shouldn't be a problem either way, so
maybe I'm the dense one because I don't understand why you suggested
using hanging indents. What's the point in telling the OP to do it
differently when there's no advantage to the alternative method?
Instead, I gave the OP a warm fuzzy by saying that how he/she did it was
how I might have done it too. My humble apologies to you and the
newsgroup if that was the wrong answer.


Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:

I'm not sure why either footers or footnotes would be a problem in

either
case, but perhaps I'm being dense?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"garfield-n-odie" wrote in message
...

Hi Suzanne. You're right, a hanging indent would work too, but I didn't
see an advantage to it relative to the OP's comment that using a table
made footnotes and footers "murder to keep up". g-n-o


Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:

Another way to get this particular layout (where the sidehead never


exceeds

one line) is to use a hanging indent.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the


newsgroup so

all may benefit.

"garfield-n-odie" wrote in

message
...


Using a table is probably how I would have done this. If you have

Word
XP or 2003, there is a way to do this without a table, but it's not

any
"better" in terms of footers and footnotes. What issues are you

having
with table breaks, footers, and footnotes?


SiennaSys wrote:



Formally, I had a template so that in a report, I would have a table

so

that I could have the sub headers on the left side of the page and the


text

would be parallel to the header on the right side of the page. So it


might

look like this:


Subheader1 ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl

saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl

saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl

saj


Subheader2 ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl

saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl

saj
ajksdklj al `dqlwj dlkasjlkd jaslj dlkas dl

saj


footer

foot note



But between the table breaks and the footers and foot notes, it is

murder toi keep up. Is there a simpler way to simpler template anyone


can

recommend






 




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