OE Wiped Clean......???

"Heather" wrote in message
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Create a shortcut to something in the Quick Launch folder (note the space
between the words).
The restart the computer. It should be able to appear then.

Didn't work........so I created a new folder and went into Windows
Explorer
and added the Quick Launch one......however, it is over to the right and I
can't yank it back to beside Start......my programs are opening between
Start and Quick Launch now.

Just removed a photo editing update from HP that I put on last night and
did
a System Restore once more.....back another few hours. Probably that
program was at fault. Dunno......

I will have to have a good look at Windows Explorer tomorrow. I put the
Application Data folder in sort of the wrong place.......so have
duplicates
under that. But I will see which Identity is being used for OE and delete
the others. (2 of my new identity.....2 of the old corrupt one). Just
call
me "Murphy"......if anything could go wrong.....etc.



I'd say you've got something messed up with the Application Data folder.
Permissions as well maybe.

"DGuess" wrote in message
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"Heather" wrote in message
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Didn't work........so I created a new folder and went into Windows
Explorer
and added the Quick Launch one......however, it is over to the right and
I
can't yank it back to beside Start......my programs are opening between
Start and Quick Launch now.

Just removed a photo editing update from HP that I put on last night and
did a System Restore once more.....back another few hours. Probably that
program was at fault. Dunno......

I will have to have a good look at Windows Explorer tomorrow. I put the
Application Data folder in sort of the wrong place.......so have
duplicates under that. But I will see which Identity is being used for
OE and delete the others. (2 of my new identity.....2 of the old corrupt
one). Just call me "Murphy"......if anything could go wrong.....etc.



I'd say you've got something messed up with the Application Data folder.
Permissions as well maybe.

The one I found in Applog (just below it I guess) was a hidden
folder.......I dragged it over to the heading "Application Data", but it
settled in as a subfolder to that one.

Not sure where I am going with this, but it is baffling. Must have somehow
put it into the Applog folder, but have no memory of doing that.

Reinstalled Firefox.....it wiped all of the settings and data out of that
too. (not sure what "it" is/was) Uninstalled the Photo Impressions by
HP....found all the bits and pieces for OE.....so everything is working
semi-OK for the moment.

Cheers.....Heather

Thanks, Gene......I did all of that. Btw....I am using WinME, so the XP
folder names are different than mine.

Got the address book back......albeit an older one, so weeded a lot out of
it. Showed up in a few places.......but the one I imported was from Majik's
OE Backup program.

Cheers.....Heather

"Gene K" wrote in message
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Heather,
I am late to this discussion; however, I will offer this as part of
the
address book discussion:
a.Your address book normally should appear at: X:\Documents and
Settings\Xxxx\Application Data\Microsoft\Address Book [replace the first
"X"
with the drive letter on which Windows is installed. Replace "Xxxx" with
the
proper user name].
b.You can find all address books on your computer by using the
Start/Search
function. Open it up: All Files and Folders/type "*.wab" (minus the quote
markers)/look in the Hard Drive on which Windows is installed/More
Advanced
Options, BE CERTAIN that the first three options contain check marks/left
click "Search".
Gene K
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"Heather" wrote in message
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Create a shortcut to something in the Quick Launch folder (note the
space
between the words).
The restart the computer. It should be able to appear then.

Didn't work........so I created a new folder and went into Windows
Explorer
and added the Quick Launch one......however, it is over to the right and
I
can't yank it back to beside Start......my programs are opening between
Start and Quick Launch now.

Just removed a photo editing update from HP that I put on last night and
did
a System Restore once more.....back another few hours. Probably that
program was at fault. Dunno......

I will have to have a good look at Windows Explorer tomorrow. I put the
Application Data folder in sort of the wrong place.......so have
duplicates
under that. But I will see which Identity is being used for OE and
delete
the others. (2 of my new identity.....2 of the old corrupt one). Just
call
me "Murphy"......if anything could go wrong.....etc.

Night Majik.....heading off to bed. You get working on that OE Backup,
OK??
(VBG)

Cheers.....Heather

Figure I will get an 80 gig HD and the tech can put the blasted XP
on....and
dual boot with WinME. $100 for the HD and $60 for the tech. Not
bad.....but having you do it for free would be lovely....chuckle.
Hey,
it's
snowing today....want to come up for a visit??


Dual boot is okay, you can still share OE's files that way.

It was cold enough for snow today here it felt like. Blasted wind.....


I looked at the OEBackup code the other day. First time in a while
and
almost did something in it. I'm just stuck where I can't think and
I
get
frustrated and close it out. There's a lot of stuff in that program
and
some
no one can use because I disabled it. Maybe I'll get back to it
shortly
and
pretty it up some. Keep waking up with some ideas on how to
accomplish
a
couple of other things which would be helpful.

I hope you get back to it....I had a problem using it coz I still
have
that
old Identity on here.....so went to the Quickie one. Think I better
get
rid
of the corrupt identity......and I now have two sets of these folders
and
files. I will ponder on it and remove some of them. But will do
another
quickie backup as a just in case.


Yeah, a corrupt Identity can cause problems and not just with OEB. You
should have to see how many cow paths I have to drive down in code to
make
sure I have all the possibilities there for the program to just begin
to
run.......Regular set up Identity, No Identities subkey at all, an
Identity
started but not finished (no subkeys), Identity partially started,
(some
subkeys), and a host of others.Then onward with the other checks such
as
which OS is running, where are the files located, what are all the
Identities and their paths. Do certain values exist?, etc.......Then
the
program shows up on the screen eventually. I looked one time and there
were
about 500 lines of code to do just the basic start up. I think the
whole
program is over 100,000 lines and about 20 forms. Basically it's just
another way to kick one's self in the rear trying to go thru it.

"Heather" wrote in message
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"Heather" wrote in message
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Didn't work........so I created a new folder and went into Windows
Explorer
and added the Quick Launch one......however, it is over to the right
and
I
can't yank it back to beside Start......my programs are opening between
Start and Quick Launch now.

Just removed a photo editing update from HP that I put on last night
and
did a System Restore once more.....back another few hours. Probably that
program was at fault. Dunno......

I will have to have a good look at Windows Explorer tomorrow. I put
the
Application Data folder in sort of the wrong place.......so have
duplicates under that. But I will see which Identity is being used for
OE and delete the others. (2 of my new identity.....2 of the old corrupt
one). Just call me "Murphy"......if anything could go wrong.....etc.



I'd say you've got something messed up with the Application Data folder.
Permissions as well maybe.

The one I found in Applog (just below it I guess) was a hidden
folder.......I dragged it over to the heading "Application Data", but it
settled in as a subfolder to that one.

Not sure where I am going with this, but it is baffling. Must have
somehow
put it into the Applog folder, but have no memory of doing that.

Reinstalled Firefox.....it wiped all of the settings and data out of that
too. (not sure what "it" is/was) Uninstalled the Photo Impressions by
HP....found all the bits and pieces for OE.....so everything is working
semi-OK for the moment.

Cheers.....Heather





The one thing I'm curious about is this. Why the dragging and dropping of
folders?

Do this, create a new user account in XP. Switch to it. All programs will be
there but you will have to set up OE and import the mail and address book.

When you get it done, switch back to the old account. Create a folder where
you can put all the documents, data, etc into.
Give it a name of C:\Data
Right click on the folder, select Properties
Click on Sharing tab
Select Share this folder.
Click on Permissions button
Change it to Full Control.
Click OK

Now move all the documents and data into this folder.
When done, log out of that account.
Log into new account.
Start fresh.

Sound like worth doing?

See inline.....

"DGuess" wrote in message
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The one thing I'm curious about is this. Why the dragging and dropping of
folders?

Well, I didn't think it belonged in Applog.....and it was a *hidden
folder*.....and OE had absolutely nothing in it but the usual default
folders (Inbox, Sent, etc). I had done a search for *.dbx files and they
were showing up as C:\WINDOWS\APPLOG\Application Data......so that was the
reason for my trying to move it out and over to the Folder named Application
Data.......am I confusing you? (g)

Do this, create a new user account in XP. Switch to it. All programs will
be there but you will have to set up OE and import the mail and address
book.

Did that last night with the contents of the above dragged folder. Had a
problem importing the *.wab file......but finally found an old one in your
program and used that. It just plain would NOT import from the usual
Internet Explorer spot. Besides, it was only 173 kb......so no names in it.

I will print off your instructions and muse on it. I would just like to
sort out what belongs where under Application Data, so figured I would wait
a day or two and watch the date changes (or lack thereof).

I don't have duplicates of everything......but I also have the added
confusion of a lot of XP folders on this HD which I am not entirely sure I
can remove. I know.....a reformat is in order, but you know how Martha
would feel at the word *reformat*.....grin.

Best.....Heather

When you get it done, switch back to the old account. Create a folder
where
you can put all the documents, data, etc into.
Give it a name of C:\Data
Right click on the folder, select Properties
Click on Sharing tab
Select Share this folder.
Click on Permissions button
Change it to Full Control.
Click OK

Now move all the documents and data into this folder.
When done, log out of that account.
Log into new account.
Start fresh.

Sound like worth doing?

On rereading this.......remember, I have WinME.....is this an XP solve??
*Permissions* seems a bit strange, not to mention I can't find that, so I
thought I had better ask.

The Dinosaur.

"DGuess" wrote in message
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Do this, create a new user account in XP. Switch to it. All programs will
be
there but you will have to set up OE and import the mail and address book.

When you get it done, switch back to the old account. Create a folder
where
you can put all the documents, data, etc into.
Give it a name of C:\Data
Right click on the folder, select Properties
Click on Sharing tab
Select Share this folder.
Click on Permissions button
Change it to Full Control.
Click OK

Now move all the documents and data into this folder.
When done, log out of that account.
Log into new account.
Start fresh.

Sound like worth doing?

"Heather" wrote in message
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On rereading this.......remember, I have WinME.....is this an XP solve??
*Permissions* seems a bit strange, not to mention I can't find that, so I
thought I had better ask.

The Dinosaur.



I thought you had upgraded to XP a while back.

So basically we're playing tennis with a basketball. Just ain't working out.

What did Tools | Options | Maintenance tab | Store Folders show for the OE
message stores? If it was the Applog folder, somehow it was moved to it but
then, that's WinMe and could have been there. I don't have that installed on
anything around here.

"Heather" wrote in message
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See inline.....

"DGuess" wrote in message
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The one thing I'm curious about is this. Why the dragging and dropping of
folders?

Well, I didn't think it belonged in Applog.....and it was a *hidden
folder*.....and OE had absolutely nothing in it but the usual default
folders (Inbox, Sent, etc). I had done a search for *.dbx files and they
were showing up as C:\WINDOWS\APPLOG\Application Data......so that was the
reason for my trying to move it out and over to the Folder named
Application
Data.......am I confusing you? (g)

Do this, create a new user account in XP. Switch to it. All programs will
be there but you will have to set up OE and import the mail and address
book.

Did that last night with the contents of the above dragged folder. Had a
problem importing the *.wab file......but finally found an old one in your
program and used that. It just plain would NOT import from the usual
Internet Explorer spot. Besides, it was only 173 kb......so no names in
it.


Yep, that one was empty.


I will print off your instructions and muse on it. I would just like to
sort out what belongs where under Application Data, so figured I would
wait
a day or two and watch the date changes (or lack thereof).


Here's a thought. Go into Tools | Options | Maintenace tab | Store Folders
button. What location dos it show for there? On XP, one of the first things
I do for my own messages is to move it to a folder such as C:\Msgs or
C:\Mail and use it. Sure makes life a lot easier.


I don't have duplicates of everything......but I also have the added
confusion of a lot of XP folders on this HD which I am not entirely sure I
can remove. I know.....a reformat is in order, but you know how Martha
would feel at the word *reformat*.....grin.



Well, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Say, I have an idea. Move on
down here to the Bluegrass and I'll come and pick it up and fix it G

"DGuess" wrote in message
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"Heather" wrote in message
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On rereading this.......remember, I have WinME.....is this an XP solve??
*Permissions* seems a bit strange, not to mention I can't find that, so
I
thought I had better ask.

The Dinosaur.



I thought you had upgraded to XP a while back. So basically we're playing
tennis with a basketball. Just ain't working out.


TOTAL DISASTER!! Spent 24 hours with a constantly crashing XP and I
followed all the directions to the nth degree!! Took 9 tries to get it
installed coz it was almost completely installed when it kept reverting back
to "installing devices" or some such.....and then brief black screens. Had
to go forward....couldn't go back coz ME was not there.

Long story short......uninstalled XP, but it left a ****load of XP folders
and files on the WinME hard drive......been slowly removing them, but this
seems to be another twist in the ME/XP saga......no clue as to how it
happened.


What did Tools | Options | Maintenance tab | Store Folders show for the OE
message stores? If it was the Applog folder, somehow it was moved to it
but
then, that's WinMe and could have been there. I don't have that installed
on anything around here.

Nope....it is now the Casey Identity that I was using before......never
thought to check that when I had nothing on here.

This is getting way too involved and messy. I think my best bet is to get
the local tech to put XP on a new HD and take the data off WinME as I need
it and then eventually reformat it.....if that is possible. Most of it is
backed up except for the odd new thing......will do that backup as well.

Working OK now.....but still no Quick Launch and I have given up on that.
About to defrag and see if that helps. System Restored 3 times.....back to
last Thursday....didn't help.

Blasted computers!! OTOH, I am your best *victim*.....if it is something
weird, it always happens to me, grin!! I invented Murphy's Law!!

Thanks, puss.....Heather

"Heather" wrote in message
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"DGuess" wrote in message
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"Heather" wrote in message
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On rereading this.......remember, I have WinME.....is this an XP
solve??
*Permissions* seems a bit strange, not to mention I can't find that, so
I
thought I had better ask.

The Dinosaur.



I thought you had upgraded to XP a while back. So basically we're
playing
tennis with a basketball. Just ain't working out.


TOTAL DISASTER!! Spent 24 hours with a constantly crashing XP and I
followed all the directions to the nth degree!! Took 9 tries to get it
installed coz it was almost completely installed when it kept reverting
back
to "installing devices" or some such.....and then brief black screens.
Had
to go forward....couldn't go back coz ME was not there.

Long story short......uninstalled XP, but it left a ****load of XP folders
and files on the WinME hard drive......been slowly removing them, but this
seems to be another twist in the ME/XP saga......no clue as to how it
happened.


What did Tools | Options | Maintenance tab | Store Folders show for the
OE
message stores? If it was the Applog folder, somehow it was moved to it
but
then, that's WinMe and could have been there. I don't have that installed
on anything around here.

Nope....it is now the Casey Identity that I was using before......never
thought to check that when I had nothing on here.

This is getting way too involved and messy. I think my best bet is to get
the local tech to put XP on a new HD and take the data off WinME as I need
it and then eventually reformat it.....if that is possible. Most of it
is
backed up except for the odd new thing......will do that backup as well.

Working OK now.....but still no Quick Launch and I have given up on that.
About to defrag and see if that helps. System Restored 3 times.....back
to
last Thursday....didn't help.

Blasted computers!! OTOH, I am your best *victim*.....if it is something
weird, it always happens to me, grin!! I invented Murphy's Law!!

Thanks, puss.....Heather








No wonder things aren't going right. I think you may well want to start it
on a fresh setup. Is there any hardware that didn't pass the XP Compability
test? BIOS update, etc? I just upgraded a computer for a lady that M goes
to church with from WinMe to XP and had no problems. Well, there were some
but I updated things in WinMe first and also removed all the spyware, etc.
After that, the upgrade to XP Home went fine.

Never had a problem installing XP on anything so far and I've done quite a
few upgrades. Any hardware that was suspect, I pulled first then did the
install. Have to use Drivers.com a lot at times.

Now I know why I never cared for WinMe.