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  #1  
Old April 20th, 2010, 04:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
katko
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Default Wrestling with Page Numbering...

I have a document with mixed pages - the first part is Portrait and the
second part Landscape. I want my page numbers to all be at the bottom when
the document is bound as a book. I figured out (to my delight) how to get
the footer in and I can manually put an accent line...and I was able to
remove the text for the footers I already had. However, the accent line from
my original footer still runs across the long edge of my page. I really need
to get rid of this! I can't seem to select it - when I click on it, I get a
cursor like I was on a horizontal line of a table. Aaargh! So close!
  #2  
Old April 20th, 2010, 05:06 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
katko
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Posts: 7
Default Wrestling with Page Numbering...

Sorry - in my zeal to solve the mystery, I forgot some important info. I'm
using Word 2007. I originally created my footer using (I believe) Page
Number - Bottom of Page - Accent Bar 2. I'm wondering if I need to create
a brand new file and start over with page numbering. I'm nervous - it's
really six documents with a LOT of formatting and work that I can't afford to
lose. I'd rather rig it with white boxes covering the footing, publish to
PDF, and call it a day. Ideally, though, I would really like to do it right
for efficient long term use.
  #3  
Old April 20th, 2010, 05:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
Doug Robbins - Word MVP
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Default Wrestling with Page Numbering...

In the Editing section of the home tab of the ribbon, use the Select
pulldown and from it select the "Select Objects" item. You should then be
able to select and delete the line.

Or, see the article "There is a line in my document that I can't delete
because I can't select it. How did it get there, and what can I do about
it?” at:

http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Format...tRidOfLine.htm


--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"katko" wrote in message
...
Sorry - in my zeal to solve the mystery, I forgot some important info.
I'm
using Word 2007. I originally created my footer using (I believe) Page
Number - Bottom of Page - Accent Bar 2. I'm wondering if I need to
create
a brand new file and start over with page numbering. I'm nervous - it's
really six documents with a LOT of formatting and work that I can't afford
to
lose. I'd rather rig it with white boxes covering the footing, publish to
PDF, and call it a day. Ideally, though, I would really like to do it
right
for efficient long term use.


  #4  
Old April 24th, 2010, 05:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
katko
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Posts: 7
Default Wrestling with Page Numbering...

Thanks for your efforts to help. I tried that (and tried again after reading
your post) but I'm quite sure it's not an object. I'm really familiar with
lines that are objects, even the ones that "magically" appear when you use
repeated hyphens or underscores. This did not happen.

When I created my page numbering, I chose a form with "Accent Bar" in the
title. When I try to remove the page numbering and/or the footer, the accent
bar remains. With "Select Objects" it acts like nothing is there. I can
click all around and on it, but nothing selects (unlike when I select an
actual object). The only way I can get its attention is to have the i-bar
and then mouse over it - it changes the cursor to two horizontal lines with
an arrow above and below and allows me to move it vertically. This reminds
me of sizing a row in a table.

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

In the Editing section of the home tab of the ribbon, use the Select
pulldown and from it select the "Select Objects" item. You should then be
able to select and delete the line.

Or, see the article "There is a line in my document that I can't delete
because I can't select it. How did it get there, and what can I do about
it?” at:

http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Format...tRidOfLine.htm


--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"katko" wrote in message
...
Sorry - in my zeal to solve the mystery, I forgot some important info.
I'm
using Word 2007. I originally created my footer using (I believe) Page
Number - Bottom of Page - Accent Bar 2. I'm wondering if I need to
create
a brand new file and start over with page numbering. I'm nervous - it's
really six documents with a LOT of formatting and work that I can't afford
to
lose. I'd rather rig it with white boxes covering the footing, publish to
PDF, and call it a day. Ideally, though, I would really like to do it
right
for efficient long term use.


  #5  
Old April 24th, 2010, 06:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Wrestling with Page Numbering...

I've inserted the Accent Bar 2 page number, and the only bar I see is a pipe
character between the page number and the word "Page." I have to say I don't
understand this format in the first place: why have the word "Page" *after*
the number and why formatted as yellow? It's a dead-stupid design in the
first place.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"katko" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your efforts to help. I tried that (and tried again after
reading
your post) but I'm quite sure it's not an object. I'm really familiar
with
lines that are objects, even the ones that "magically" appear when you use
repeated hyphens or underscores. This did not happen.

When I created my page numbering, I chose a form with "Accent Bar" in the
title. When I try to remove the page numbering and/or the footer, the
accent
bar remains. With "Select Objects" it acts like nothing is there. I can
click all around and on it, but nothing selects (unlike when I select an
actual object). The only way I can get its attention is to have the i-bar
and then mouse over it - it changes the cursor to two horizontal lines
with
an arrow above and below and allows me to move it vertically. This
reminds
me of sizing a row in a table.

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

In the Editing section of the home tab of the ribbon, use the Select
pulldown and from it select the "Select Objects" item. You should then
be
able to select and delete the line.

Or, see the article "There is a line in my document that I can't delete
because I can't select it. How did it get there, and what can I do about
it?” at:

http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Format...tRidOfLine.htm


--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"katko" wrote in message
...
Sorry - in my zeal to solve the mystery, I forgot some important info.
I'm
using Word 2007. I originally created my footer using (I believe) Page
Number - Bottom of Page - Accent Bar 2. I'm wondering if I need to
create
a brand new file and start over with page numbering. I'm nervous -
it's
really six documents with a LOT of formatting and work that I can't
afford
to
lose. I'd rather rig it with white boxes covering the footing, publish
to
PDF, and call it a day. Ideally, though, I would really like to do it
right
for efficient long term use.




  #6  
Old April 25th, 2010, 05:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
katko
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Posts: 7
Default Wrestling with Page Numbering...

So you inserted it and there was no light gray accent bar horizontally above
it?! There is in mine and it's quite stubborn. Maybe it's somehow something
set up for all footers or something. Desperate to finish this project, I
covered it with a white box and inserted the portrait page numbering on those
landscape pages. I'm still curious to know how to get rid of it, but my
workaround should hold I guess.

As for the word page after it...thanks for making me doubt the numbering I
put in my entire book! ha ha. I have section page numbers, though, and I
think it looks pretty good. I'll run it by the others who are
proofing/providing input. Thanks for responding! I'm even more curious now.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I've inserted the Accent Bar 2 page number, and the only bar I see is a pipe
character between the page number and the word "Page." I have to say I don't
understand this format in the first place: why have the word "Page" *after*
the number and why formatted as yellow? It's a dead-stupid design in the
first place.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"katko" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your efforts to help. I tried that (and tried again after
reading
your post) but I'm quite sure it's not an object. I'm really familiar
with
lines that are objects, even the ones that "magically" appear when you use
repeated hyphens or underscores. This did not happen.

When I created my page numbering, I chose a form with "Accent Bar" in the
title. When I try to remove the page numbering and/or the footer, the
accent
bar remains. With "Select Objects" it acts like nothing is there. I can
click all around and on it, but nothing selects (unlike when I select an
actual object). The only way I can get its attention is to have the i-bar
and then mouse over it - it changes the cursor to two horizontal lines
with
an arrow above and below and allows me to move it vertically. This
reminds
me of sizing a row in a table.

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

In the Editing section of the home tab of the ribbon, use the Select
pulldown and from it select the "Select Objects" item. You should then
be
able to select and delete the line.

Or, see the article "There is a line in my document that I can't delete
because I can't select it. How did it get there, and what can I do about
it?” at:

http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Format...tRidOfLine.htm


--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"katko" wrote in message
...
Sorry - in my zeal to solve the mystery, I forgot some important info.
I'm
using Word 2007. I originally created my footer using (I believe) Page
Number - Bottom of Page - Accent Bar 2. I'm wondering if I need to
create
a brand new file and start over with page numbering. I'm nervous -
it's
really six documents with a LOT of formatting and work that I can't
afford
to
lose. I'd rather rig it with white boxes covering the footing, publish
to
PDF, and call it a day. Ideally, though, I would really like to do it
right
for efficient long term use.



.

  #7  
Old April 25th, 2010, 07:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
Doug Robbins - Word MVP
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Posts: 8,239
Default Wrestling with Page Numbering...

With the selection in the word Page in the foote, rGo to the Home tab of the
Ribbon and from the Paragraph Section, click on the Borders pulldown and you
will see that the Top Border item has an Orange Background, indicating that
a Top Border is applied to the paragraph. Click on that item to remove the
border or select the No Border item.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"katko" wrote in message
...
So you inserted it and there was no light gray accent bar horizontally
above
it?! There is in mine and it's quite stubborn. Maybe it's somehow
something
set up for all footers or something. Desperate to finish this project, I
covered it with a white box and inserted the portrait page numbering on
those
landscape pages. I'm still curious to know how to get rid of it, but my
workaround should hold I guess.

As for the word page after it...thanks for making me doubt the numbering I
put in my entire book! ha ha. I have section page numbers, though, and I
think it looks pretty good. I'll run it by the others who are
proofing/providing input. Thanks for responding! I'm even more curious
now.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I've inserted the Accent Bar 2 page number, and the only bar I see is a
pipe
character between the page number and the word "Page." I have to say I
don't
understand this format in the first place: why have the word "Page"
*after*
the number and why formatted as yellow? It's a dead-stupid design in the
first place.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"katko" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your efforts to help. I tried that (and tried again after
reading
your post) but I'm quite sure it's not an object. I'm really familiar
with
lines that are objects, even the ones that "magically" appear when you
use
repeated hyphens or underscores. This did not happen.

When I created my page numbering, I chose a form with "Accent Bar" in
the
title. When I try to remove the page numbering and/or the footer, the
accent
bar remains. With "Select Objects" it acts like nothing is there. I
can
click all around and on it, but nothing selects (unlike when I select
an
actual object). The only way I can get its attention is to have the
i-bar
and then mouse over it - it changes the cursor to two horizontal lines
with
an arrow above and below and allows me to move it vertically. This
reminds
me of sizing a row in a table.

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

In the Editing section of the home tab of the ribbon, use the Select
pulldown and from it select the "Select Objects" item. You should
then
be
able to select and delete the line.

Or, see the article "There is a line in my document that I can't
delete
because I can't select it. How did it get there, and what can I do
about
it?” at:

http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Format...tRidOfLine.htm


--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"katko" wrote in message
...
Sorry - in my zeal to solve the mystery, I forgot some important
info.
I'm
using Word 2007. I originally created my footer using (I believe)
Page
Number - Bottom of Page - Accent Bar 2. I'm wondering if I need
to
create
a brand new file and start over with page numbering. I'm nervous -
it's
really six documents with a LOT of formatting and work that I can't
afford
to
lose. I'd rather rig it with white boxes covering the footing,
publish
to
PDF, and call it a day. Ideally, though, I would really like to do
it
right
for efficient long term use.



.

  #8  
Old April 25th, 2010, 02:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Posts: 31,786
Default Wrestling with Page Numbering...

Well, my replies to katko and to Doug have disappeared, so let's see whether
I can post a reply to myself.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I've inserted the Accent Bar 2 page number, and the only bar I see is a
pipe character between the page number and the word "Page." I have to say
I don't understand this format in the first place: why have the word
"Page" *after* the number and why formatted as yellow? It's a dead-stupid
design in the first place.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"katko" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your efforts to help. I tried that (and tried again after
reading
your post) but I'm quite sure it's not an object. I'm really familiar
with
lines that are objects, even the ones that "magically" appear when you
use
repeated hyphens or underscores. This did not happen.

When I created my page numbering, I chose a form with "Accent Bar" in the
title. When I try to remove the page numbering and/or the footer, the
accent
bar remains. With "Select Objects" it acts like nothing is there. I can
click all around and on it, but nothing selects (unlike when I select an
actual object). The only way I can get its attention is to have the
i-bar
and then mouse over it - it changes the cursor to two horizontal lines
with
an arrow above and below and allows me to move it vertically. This
reminds
me of sizing a row in a table.

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

In the Editing section of the home tab of the ribbon, use the Select
pulldown and from it select the "Select Objects" item. You should then
be
able to select and delete the line.

Or, see the article "There is a line in my document that I can't delete
because I can't select it. How did it get there, and what can I do about
it?” at:

http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Format...tRidOfLine.htm


--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"katko" wrote in message
...
Sorry - in my zeal to solve the mystery, I forgot some important info.
I'm
using Word 2007. I originally created my footer using (I believe)
Page
Number - Bottom of Page - Accent Bar 2. I'm wondering if I need to
create
a brand new file and start over with page numbering. I'm nervous -
it's
really six documents with a LOT of formatting and work that I can't
afford
to
lose. I'd rather rig it with white boxes covering the footing,
publish to
PDF, and call it a day. Ideally, though, I would really like to do it
right
for efficient long term use.





  #9  
Old April 25th, 2010, 04:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Posts: 31,786
Default Wrestling with Page Numbering...

It would appear that some word in the messages I have posted previously is
being filtered. Another reply this morning appeared briefly and then
vanished. I'm investigating.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Fairhope, AL USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Well, my replies to katko and to Doug have disappeared, so let's see whether
I can post a reply to myself.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I've inserted the Accent Bar 2 page number, and the only bar I see is a
pipe character between the page number and the word "Page." I have to say
I don't understand this format in the first place: why have the word
"Page" *after* the number and why formatted as yellow? It's a dead-stupid
design in the first place.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"katko" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your efforts to help. I tried that (and tried again after
reading
your post) but I'm quite sure it's not an object. I'm really familiar
with
lines that are objects, even the ones that "magically" appear when you
use
repeated hyphens or underscores. This did not happen.

When I created my page numbering, I chose a form with "Accent Bar" in the
title. When I try to remove the page numbering and/or the footer, the
accent
bar remains. With "Select Objects" it acts like nothing is there. I can
click all around and on it, but nothing selects (unlike when I select an
actual object). The only way I can get its attention is to have the
i-bar
and then mouse over it - it changes the cursor to two horizontal lines
with
an arrow above and below and allows me to move it vertically. This
reminds
me of sizing a row in a table.

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

In the Editing section of the home tab of the ribbon, use the Select
pulldown and from it select the "Select Objects" item. You should then
be
able to select and delete the line.

Or, see the article "There is a line in my document that I can't delete
because I can't select it. How did it get there, and what can I do about
it?” at:

http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Format...tRidOfLine.htm


--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"katko" wrote in message
...
Sorry - in my zeal to solve the mystery, I forgot some important info.
I'm
using Word 2007. I originally created my footer using (I believe)
Page
Number - Bottom of Page - Accent Bar 2. I'm wondering if I need to
create
a brand new file and start over with page numbering. I'm nervous -
it's
really six documents with a LOT of formatting and work that I can't
afford
to
lose. I'd rather rig it with white boxes covering the footing,
publish to
PDF, and call it a day. Ideally, though, I would really like to do it
right
for efficient long term use.





.

  #10  
Old April 25th, 2010, 04:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Posts: 31,786
Default Wrestling with Page Numbering...

From this description, if I had read it carefully, it should have been
obvious that the "object" in question is a paragraph border (as I discovered
last night when I investigated further; unfortunately, the reply I posted
then was eaten by the server). But I took you at your word when you said you
knew how to deal with the paragraph borders that "that 'magically' appear
when you use repeated hyphens or underscores."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Fairhope, AL USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.



"katko" wrote:

Thanks for your efforts to help. I tried that (and tried again after reading
your post) but I'm quite sure it's not an object. I'm really familiar with
lines that are objects, even the ones that "magically" appear when you use
repeated hyphens or underscores. This did not happen.

When I created my page numbering, I chose a form with "Accent Bar" in the
title. When I try to remove the page numbering and/or the footer, the accent
bar remains. With "Select Objects" it acts like nothing is there. I can
click all around and on it, but nothing selects (unlike when I select an
actual object). The only way I can get its attention is to have the i-bar
and then mouse over it - it changes the cursor to two horizontal lines with
an arrow above and below and allows me to move it vertically. This reminds
me of sizing a row in a table.

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

In the Editing section of the home tab of the ribbon, use the Select
pulldown and from it select the "Select Objects" item. You should then be
able to select and delete the line.

Or, see the article "There is a line in my document that I can't delete
because I can't select it. How did it get there, and what can I do about
it?” at:

http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Format...tRidOfLine.htm


--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"katko" wrote in message
...
Sorry - in my zeal to solve the mystery, I forgot some important info.
I'm
using Word 2007. I originally created my footer using (I believe) Page
Number - Bottom of Page - Accent Bar 2. I'm wondering if I need to
create
a brand new file and start over with page numbering. I'm nervous - it's
really six documents with a LOT of formatting and work that I can't afford
to
lose. I'd rather rig it with white boxes covering the footing, publish to
PDF, and call it a day. Ideally, though, I would really like to do it
right
for efficient long term use.


 




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