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Old September 7th, 2004, 10:48 PM
Pat Garard
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Thanks 'bel!
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Regards,
Pat Garard
Australia

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"Jezebel" wrote in message
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You need to make a distinction between nesting and anchoring. I don't know
the detailed answer to this -- you'll need to do some experimenting, I
guess.

You can work out where textboxes are anchored by looking at the shape's
Anchor property -- this is a reference to the range (ie paragraph) to
which
the shape is attached -- you can then check that Range's Information()
property to work out if you are anchored to a paragraph within a table.

Not sure what's the most efficient way to pick if a table is within a
textbox. For one thing, tables in textboxes are not members of the
ActiveDocument.Tables collection, so simply iterating the tables
collection
won't encounter them anyway. To find tables within textboxes you could
iterate the activedocument.StoryRanges(wdTextFrameStory).Table s
collection.
Does that help?

Perhaps for your purpose, dealing with the distinct StoryRanges as
separate
entities might be the best approach.





"Pat Garard" apgarardATbigpondPERIODnetPERIODau wrote in message
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Wow Jezebel!

I can nest a Table OR a Text Box into a Table.
I can nest a Table into a Text Box (but that
table may not then contain another Text Box).

I need to be able to detect all such nestings.
--
Regards,
Pat Garard
Australia

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"Jezebel" wrote in message
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Thank you! - Any ideas on Text Boxes?
--

Pat, this question is a tad cryptic. I have lots of ideas on Text
Boxes;
most of them obscure, unprintable, and of extremely dubious relevance

...

Textboxes can't be nested (in W2000, anyway). They may overlap -- so

that
graphically they have the appearance of nesting -- but the range to

which
a
textbox is anchored must be part of the MainStory or a Header/Footer.

You
can't anchor a textbox to a paragraph within a textbox.








  #12  
Old September 7th, 2004, 10:48 PM
Pat Garard
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Thanks 'bel!
--
Regards,
Pat Garard
Australia

______________________________________

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
You need to make a distinction between nesting and anchoring. I don't know
the detailed answer to this -- you'll need to do some experimenting, I
guess.

You can work out where textboxes are anchored by looking at the shape's
Anchor property -- this is a reference to the range (ie paragraph) to
which
the shape is attached -- you can then check that Range's Information()
property to work out if you are anchored to a paragraph within a table.

Not sure what's the most efficient way to pick if a table is within a
textbox. For one thing, tables in textboxes are not members of the
ActiveDocument.Tables collection, so simply iterating the tables
collection
won't encounter them anyway. To find tables within textboxes you could
iterate the activedocument.StoryRanges(wdTextFrameStory).Table s
collection.
Does that help?

Perhaps for your purpose, dealing with the distinct StoryRanges as
separate
entities might be the best approach.





"Pat Garard" apgarardATbigpondPERIODnetPERIODau wrote in message
...
Wow Jezebel!

I can nest a Table OR a Text Box into a Table.
I can nest a Table into a Text Box (but that
table may not then contain another Text Box).

I need to be able to detect all such nestings.
--
Regards,
Pat Garard
Australia

______________________________________

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...


Thank you! - Any ideas on Text Boxes?
--

Pat, this question is a tad cryptic. I have lots of ideas on Text
Boxes;
most of them obscure, unprintable, and of extremely dubious relevance

...

Textboxes can't be nested (in W2000, anyway). They may overlap -- so

that
graphically they have the appearance of nesting -- but the range to

which
a
textbox is anchored must be part of the MainStory or a Header/Footer.

You
can't anchor a textbox to a paragraph within a textbox.








  #13  
Old September 8th, 2004, 12:19 AM
Jezebel
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They might be right at that. Word's table machinery got MUCH more complex
with W2000, precisely to deal with the issue of HTML tables which are
conceptually rather different from Word tables. As you might have discovered
already, Word tables get rather hairy (for automated processing) if you have
merged and split cells. HTML tables handle this in a completely different
way.

Creating a nested table is an reasonable work-around for some purposes: if
your table has one cell split into two columns, then in HTML all the *other*
rows have to take that into account when dealing with the corresponding cell
in that column (COLSPAN=2). This gets horribly messy if other rows have
splits and merges in other columns. The simpler alternative is to leave the
cell unsplit but to nest another table (one row, two columns) within it.

You can check the Table's Uniform property to see whether the table has any
such 'features'.




"Pat Garard" apgarardATbigpondPERIODnetPERIODau wrote in message
...
G'Day All,

The product I am using is OverDrive ReaderWorks.

Their support now tell me that the 'unusual' nesting is
sometimes carried out by Word during a 'Save As...'
to HTML format.

This means that the 'nesting' is often NOT found in
the DOC format........

(to be continued..........(maybe).)
--
Regards,
Pat Garard
Australia

______________________________________

"Pat Garard" apgarardATbigpondPERIODnetPERIODau wrote in message
...
G'Day All,

Is there a smart way to locate, within a long document, tables
and/or text boxes that happen to be 'nested'?

I am trying to create an MSReader eBook, and it falls over
because of nested tables or text boxes.
--
Regards,
Pat Garard
Australia

______________________________________





  #14  
Old September 8th, 2004, 12:19 AM
Jezebel
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They might be right at that. Word's table machinery got MUCH more complex
with W2000, precisely to deal with the issue of HTML tables which are
conceptually rather different from Word tables. As you might have discovered
already, Word tables get rather hairy (for automated processing) if you have
merged and split cells. HTML tables handle this in a completely different
way.

Creating a nested table is an reasonable work-around for some purposes: if
your table has one cell split into two columns, then in HTML all the *other*
rows have to take that into account when dealing with the corresponding cell
in that column (COLSPAN=2). This gets horribly messy if other rows have
splits and merges in other columns. The simpler alternative is to leave the
cell unsplit but to nest another table (one row, two columns) within it.

You can check the Table's Uniform property to see whether the table has any
such 'features'.




"Pat Garard" apgarardATbigpondPERIODnetPERIODau wrote in message
...
G'Day All,

The product I am using is OverDrive ReaderWorks.

Their support now tell me that the 'unusual' nesting is
sometimes carried out by Word during a 'Save As...'
to HTML format.

This means that the 'nesting' is often NOT found in
the DOC format........

(to be continued..........(maybe).)
--
Regards,
Pat Garard
Australia

______________________________________

"Pat Garard" apgarardATbigpondPERIODnetPERIODau wrote in message
...
G'Day All,

Is there a smart way to locate, within a long document, tables
and/or text boxes that happen to be 'nested'?

I am trying to create an MSReader eBook, and it falls over
because of nested tables or text boxes.
--
Regards,
Pat Garard
Australia

______________________________________





  #15  
Old September 8th, 2004, 11:10 PM
Pat Garard
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Jezebel - Yer Blood's Worth Bottlin',

I will look for split/merged cells in the original DOC.

Why you waste your time with George Bush's faeces - or
at least cleaning out the nose of his Pet Goat - I'll never know.

Many Thanks!
--
Regards,
Pat Garard
Australia

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