Style + Font Information in drop down

I am now using Word 2003

In Word 2002, if you de-selected the AutoCorrect Options/AutoFormat As You
Type/Define Styles based on your formatting option (under the Tools menu
option), Word would stop creating styles that looked like Normal + Arial 16
Point.

I have applied the same settings to Word 2003 and cannot get Word to stop
displaying the Style name + font information in my style drop down. Is
there a way to make this stop?

Thanks

P.S. This is not the update styles as you type issue as that is turned off.

Turn off "Keep track of formatting."
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Charles Kenyon

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Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

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"Roger Zouhar" wrote in message
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I am now using Word 2003

In Word 2002, if you de-selected the AutoCorrect Options/AutoFormat As You
Type/Define Styles based on your formatting option (under the Tools menu
option), Word would stop creating styles that looked like Normal + Arial
16
Point.

I have applied the same settings to Word 2003 and cannot get Word to stop
displaying the Style name + font information in my style drop down. Is
there a way to make this stop?

Thanks

P.S. This is not the update styles as you type issue as that is turned
off.

That did it. Thanks !

"Charles Kenyon" wrote in
message ...
Turn off "Keep track of formatting."
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Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome!
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"Roger Zouhar" wrote in message
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I am now using Word 2003

In Word 2002, if you de-selected the AutoCorrect Options/AutoFormat As
You
Type/Define Styles based on your formatting option (under the Tools menu
option), Word would stop creating styles that looked like Normal + Arial
16
Point.

I have applied the same settings to Word 2003 and cannot get Word to
stop
displaying the Style name + font information in my style drop down. Is
there a way to make this stop?

Thanks

P.S. This is not the update styles as you type issue as that is turned
off.

Hi Roger,

Charles has told you how to turn it off, but keeping it on isn't a bad
idea.

Word isn't creating new styles, the "Styles *and Formatting*" pane just
shows you all the manual formatting you have applied.

Usually, it's preferable *not* to apply manual formatting, so the pane is
useful in showing you where you have "messed up", and it allows you to
select the manually formatted stuff (right-click, "select all X instances")
and apply the proper style.

Of course it's still up to you to decide what is "acceptable" manual
formatting (such as "italics") and what's better done with a proper style.

Regards,
Klaus


"Roger Zouhar" wrote:
I am now using Word 2003

In Word 2002, if you de-selected the AutoCorrect Options/AutoFormat
As You Type/Define Styles based on your formatting option (under the
Tools menu option), Word would stop creating styles that looked like
Normal + Arial 16 Point.

I have applied the same settings to Word 2003 and cannot get Word to stop
displaying the Style name + font information in my style drop down. Is
there a way to make this stop?

Thanks

P.S. This is not the update styles as you type issue as that is turned
off.

Thanks for the followup. Like you, I do keep this turned on to let me know
where I've used direct formatting.
--

Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome!
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"Klaus Linke" wrote in message
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Hi Roger,

Charles has told you how to turn it off, but keeping it on isn't a bad
idea.

Word isn't creating new styles, the "Styles *and Formatting*" pane just
shows you all the manual formatting you have applied.

Usually, it's preferable *not* to apply manual formatting, so the pane is
useful in showing you where you have "messed up", and it allows you to
select the manually formatted stuff (right-click, "select all X
instances")
and apply the proper style.

Of course it's still up to you to decide what is "acceptable" manual
formatting (such as "italics") and what's better done with a proper style.

Regards,
Klaus


"Roger Zouhar" wrote:
I am now using Word 2003

In Word 2002, if you de-selected the AutoCorrect Options/AutoFormat
As You Type/Define Styles based on your formatting option (under the
Tools menu option), Word would stop creating styles that looked like
Normal + Arial 16 Point.

I have applied the same settings to Word 2003 and cannot get Word to
stop
displaying the Style name + font information in my style drop down. Is
there a way to make this stop?

Thanks

P.S. This is not the update styles as you type issue as that is turned
off.

Hi Charles,

Remember a few years back when we discussed macros/tools to clean up manual
formatting in Woody's Lounge?

IMO the "Styles and formatting pane" might be our dreams come true... if it
would work as advertised.

One goal we wanted to achieve is to see which manual formatting has been
applied.
The list in the "styles and formatting" pane isn't always up to date: It
often shows some formatting that allegedly is used X times, but really
isn't used in the document any more.

The other goal was a quick method to get rid of manual formatting
selectively.
The pane has falls short of achieving this, too:

For one, if you try to "select all X instances" of some style or formatting
(to then apply a style or remove the manual formatting), the computer often
shows the egg timer for several minutes.
Find/replace for the exact same formatting in the same doc takes a few
seconds at most.

Even worse, "select all X instances" sometimes does *not* select all X
instances.
Instead, it can completely botch up and select a weird assortment of
ranges.
If you don't notice this quickly, the buggy behaviour can cost you hours of
work.
"Find/replace" is always reliable.

The idea and the interface are great, but the implementation stinks :-(
In practice, I still mostly use "Find/replace".


Regards,
Klaus

You are way ahead of me here. I generally keep the styles and formatting
pane (and other pains) turned off. I go directly to the styles dialog (the
old one) which has improved. The only time I see the direct formatting notes
is under the drop down. Given your remarks, I may start using the styles and
formatting pane more.
--

Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome!
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"Klaus Linke" wrote in message
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Hi Charles,

Remember a few years back when we discussed macros/tools to clean up
manual
formatting in Woody's Lounge?

IMO the "Styles and formatting pane" might be our dreams come true... if
it
would work as advertised.

One goal we wanted to achieve is to see which manual formatting has been
applied.
The list in the "styles and formatting" pane isn't always up to date: It
often shows some formatting that allegedly is used X times, but really
isn't used in the document any more.

The other goal was a quick method to get rid of manual formatting
selectively.
The pane has falls short of achieving this, too:

For one, if you try to "select all X instances" of some style or
formatting
(to then apply a style or remove the manual formatting), the computer
often
shows the egg timer for several minutes.
Find/replace for the exact same formatting in the same doc takes a few
seconds at most.

Even worse, "select all X instances" sometimes does *not* select all X
instances.
Instead, it can completely botch up and select a weird assortment of
ranges.
If you don't notice this quickly, the buggy behaviour can cost you hours
of
work.
"Find/replace" is always reliable.

The idea and the interface are great, but the implementation stinks :-(
In practice, I still mostly use "Find/replace".


Regards,
Klaus

Charles Kenyon wrote:
You are way ahead of me here. [...]


Not much: I only switched to Word2002/2003 a couple of months ago.

BTW, for the curious, some of the threads I was thinking of:
http://www.wopr.com/cgi-bin/w3t/show...&Number=124148
http://www.wopr.com/cgi-bin/w3t/show...d&Number=39753

http://www.wopr.com/cgi-bin/w3t/show...d&Number=97210

http://www.wopr.com/cgi-bin/w3t/show...d&Number=96517



Many of the macros from those threads (aimed at detecting manual
formatting, and cleaning it up) will run into problems with Word2002/2003,
though, because of the new table and list styles.



Regards,

Klaus