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You are flogging a dead horse
Bob "4pinoy" wrote in message ... Hi Biff, base on your experience in the forum, do you think i need to re-post this to have the MVP rechecking attention tomorrow ? "Biff" wrote: If I was an MVP I would! Biff "Gord Dibben" gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message ... I don't know of too many MVP's using the CDO interface so don't think they are doing much checking of replies. Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP |
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then Bob, How come you are still here?
"Bob Phillips" wrote: You are flogging a dead horse Bob "4pinoy" wrote in message ... Hi Biff, base on your experience in the forum, do you think i need to re-post this to have the MVP rechecking attention tomorrow ? "Biff" wrote: If I was an MVP I would! Biff "Gord Dibben" gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message ... I don't know of too many MVP's using the CDO interface so don't think they are doing much checking of replies. Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP |
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gotto sleep...I'll be back on the thread tomorrow or post it back
again...thanks a lot for your sincere participation... "4pinoy" wrote: then Bob, How come you are still here? "Bob Phillips" wrote: You are flogging a dead horse Bob "4pinoy" wrote in message ... Hi Biff, base on your experience in the forum, do you think i need to re-post this to have the MVP rechecking attention tomorrow ? "Biff" wrote: If I was an MVP I would! Biff "Gord Dibben" gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message ... I don't know of too many MVP's using the CDO interface so don't think they are doing much checking of replies. Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP |
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I would occasionally "check-mark replies". I used to access through the
"old" web interface. It wasn't as bad as this newer version. When MS dumped the older version I switched to using OE. I think that having an MVP "endorse" or "approve" replies is a good idea. Biff "Gord Dibben" gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message ... Do what? Use the CDO interface? Surely you jest. Or maybe I should have said "check-marking of replies". Gord On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:48:10 -0500, "Biff" wrote: If I was an MVP I would! Biff "Gord Dibben" gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message . .. I don't know of too many MVP's using the CDO interface so don't think they are doing much checking of replies. Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:39:02 -0800, 4pinoy wrote: Lets hope Jim that this thread will close with a checked mark....I will leave it for the MVP's because I really dont know which one from above is the correct one. "MVPs can also mark a reply post in a question thread as an answer"... more power, thanks to all... "Jim Thomlinson" wrote: The check marks on this site are not added by the MVP's. They are added by the person asking the question. If they found the answer provided to be helpful then they can Select "Yes" at the bottom where it asks "Was this post helpful to you?". That adds the checkmark which is then attributed to the person who supplied the answer. Based on the number of helpful posts given a medal (gold, silver or bronze) may show up beside their name... -- HTH... Jim Thomlinson "4pinoy" wrote: I am not questioning about the whole products...I am pertaining only on the formula structuring of excel - no more no less. Since I use excel, I hade never experienced a fault on formula structuing huided by the help files...I consider the help files as a true guarantee on a cautiously made spreadsheet.. Out from the help files,,,I cannot do it ay all. Also see : https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres I've scanned thru the above site and found out the certifications/licensing/opportunities/rights/entitlements for MVP directly. Hence I suppose that all of checked suggestions are responsive and linked with microsoft excel formula structuring. You can also see from other page where the forum's page with rules of conduct and other matters about microsoft role on this forum together with MVP's who can control the forum in checking and unchecking.... I hope that everything is linked together, same with the basics of excel formula structuring... My question is still unanswered, if 3rd party is not a part, then why check it ? "Ron Rosenfeld" wrote: On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy wrote: Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the following. 1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel upgrade? NO 2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files. I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the present. thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply.. It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum. Although MS provides the server space, this forum is about users helping users. The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure some will offer you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied. --ron |
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Well, several MVP's have already replied and I agree with what they've said.
As to the subject of the post, there are no guarantees! Biff "4pinoy" wrote in message ... Hi Biff, base on your experience in the forum, do you think i need to re-post this to have the MVP rechecking attention tomorrow ? "Biff" wrote: If I was an MVP I would! Biff "Gord Dibben" gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message ... I don't know of too many MVP's using the CDO interface so don't think they are doing much checking of replies. Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:39:02 -0800, 4pinoy wrote: Lets hope Jim that this thread will close with a checked mark....I will leave it for the MVP's because I really dont know which one from above is the correct one. "MVPs can also mark a reply post in a question thread as an answer"... more power, thanks to all... "Jim Thomlinson" wrote: The check marks on this site are not added by the MVP's. They are added by the person asking the question. If they found the answer provided to be helpful then they can Select "Yes" at the bottom where it asks "Was this post helpful to you?". That adds the checkmark which is then attributed to the person who supplied the answer. Based on the number of helpful posts given a medal (gold, silver or bronze) may show up beside their name... -- HTH... Jim Thomlinson "4pinoy" wrote: I am not questioning about the whole products...I am pertaining only on the formula structuring of excel - no more no less. Since I use excel, I hade never experienced a fault on formula structuing huided by the help files...I consider the help files as a true guarantee on a cautiously made spreadsheet.. Out from the help files,,,I cannot do it ay all. Also see : https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres I've scanned thru the above site and found out the certifications/licensing/opportunities/rights/entitlements for MVP directly. Hence I suppose that all of checked suggestions are responsive and linked with microsoft excel formula structuring. You can also see from other page where the forum's page with rules of conduct and other matters about microsoft role on this forum together with MVP's who can control the forum in checking and unchecking.... I hope that everything is linked together, same with the basics of excel formula structuring... My question is still unanswered, if 3rd party is not a part, then why check it ? "Ron Rosenfeld" wrote: On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy wrote: Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the following. 1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel upgrade? NO 2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files. I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the present. thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply.. It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum. Although MS provides the server space, this forum is about users helping users. The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure some will offer you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied. --ron |
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I am a regular user of this forum and I would like to say something.
When I first started using MS newsgroup(s), I did it through web interface. I made a point to rate the answers so as to show my appreciation. One day, I realize that most experts, MVP's etc. don't use web interface. So, I do what the experts do and I have switched to OE, Google etc. From then on, I have stopped rating the answers as there is no way to do it through OE or Google. I always believe that the poster is free to choose from the various solutions suggested by the gurus. He/she is responsible for the consequence of his/her decision. Anyone who provides an answer is a volunteer with a helping heart. I don't pay anyone any money and therefore I don't demand. Do Excel consultants provide guarantees when clients pay them big money? I am not sure. Outside MS, I constantly find bugs in systems even when I pay for service. About the Excel Help, I have found more mistakes than I want to. I am a fan of SUMPRODUCT which is not truly explained in the Help files. If I only confine myself to the Help files I would have missed out a lot and I mean a lot. Shall we include the SUMPRODUCT paper as part of Excel Help? I always look for quality and I am happy with the advice and guidance I get from this forum. If one expert inadvertently made a typo, someone else would probably catch it. I am not sure what you are *truly* after. Life is full of risks. Off topic - The consumer report says that we shouldn't bother with extended *warranty*; it's a waste of money! I thought I could keep quiet for a few days ...... Epinn "4pinoy" wrote in message ... Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the following. 1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel upgrade? 2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files. I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the present. thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply.. |
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"Biff" wrote in message ... I would occasionally "check-mark replies". I used to access through the "old" web interface. It wasn't as bad as this newer version. When MS dumped the older version I switched to using OE. I think that having an MVP "endorse" or "approve" replies is a good idea. I disagree. MVPs carry no more authority than anyone else, the award is based upon their readiness to support communities, and the amount that they do. Quality is an element, but there is no benchmark that I know of associated with the award. There is no suggestion that an MVP is smarter, better at Excel, or anything else than say you for an example. The thought that an MVPs answer or opinion but come to be regards as the 'right' response just because they be an MVP sends a shiver down my spine. I would also guess that there would be few MVPs who would care to be carrying out the admin task of endorsing or approving the reply. What happens when an MVP endorses a reply and it is wrong? |
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Because I am interested in what the others have to say. Your point is well
intentioned but misguided IMO, but I can still listen to you. -- HTH Bob Phillips (replace xxxx in the email address with gmail if mailing direct) "4pinoy" wrote in message ... then Bob, How come you are still here? "Bob Phillips" wrote: You are flogging a dead horse Bob "4pinoy" wrote in message ... Hi Biff, base on your experience in the forum, do you think i need to re-post this to have the MVP rechecking attention tomorrow ? "Biff" wrote: If I was an MVP I would! Biff "Gord Dibben" gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message ... I don't know of too many MVP's using the CDO interface so don't think they are doing much checking of replies. Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP |
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Well said. Encapsulates my views, but more eloquently said.
Bob "Epinn" wrote in message ... I am a regular user of this forum and I would like to say something. When I first started using MS newsgroup(s), I did it through web interface. I made a point to rate the answers so as to show my appreciation. One day, I realize that most experts, MVP's etc. don't use web interface. So, I do what the experts do and I have switched to OE, Google etc. From then on, I have stopped rating the answers as there is no way to do it through OE or Google. I always believe that the poster is free to choose from the various solutions suggested by the gurus. He/she is responsible for the consequence of his/her decision. Anyone who provides an answer is a volunteer with a helping heart. I don't pay anyone any money and therefore I don't demand. Do Excel consultants provide guarantees when clients pay them big money? I am not sure. Outside MS, I constantly find bugs in systems even when I pay for service. About the Excel Help, I have found more mistakes than I want to. I am a fan of SUMPRODUCT which is not truly explained in the Help files. If I only confine myself to the Help files I would have missed out a lot and I mean a lot. Shall we include the SUMPRODUCT paper as part of Excel Help? I always look for quality and I am happy with the advice and guidance I get from this forum. If one expert inadvertently made a typo, someone else would probably catch it. I am not sure what you are *truly* after. Life is full of risks. Off topic - The consumer report says that we shouldn't bother with extended *warranty*; it's a waste of money! I thought I could keep quiet for a few days ...... Epinn |
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