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  #11  
Old August 31st, 2006, 09:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Steve Cochran
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Default Warning: DBXpress recovery program

You are trolling this NG and replying to your own message as Jason in order
to libel me.

Those looking will note that the

X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 69.12.146.190

is the same IP for both messages (the originator of the thread, "Jason", as
well as this "Donna", meaning they come from the same person. Its also the
IP address of your emails to me, so you aren't fooling anyone. Its also the
same IP address as used in this thread:



which just goes to show how much people worked with you, and how ignorant
you were to trying to understand it.

Colleen (not Jason or Donna), I have your email and mailing address (would
you like them posted here publicly?) and will sue you for libel, if you
continue to post here disparaging my program. I will also contact Sonic.net
and ask that you be disconnected from the internet due to your abuse of
their account. Also, expect the FBI to show up at your door anytime.

I'm not kidding. You either stop this libelous messaging, or I will sue and
will do it faster than you can imagine.

steve


"donna" wrote in message
...
Jason - I had the same experience with DBXpress and couldn't agree with
you
more. I also haven't talked with anyone who has had any success with the
program. And there are system requirements and program limitations of the
extract from file option that had I know about it upfront, I would never
have
purchased this program. It was a complete waste of my time and money.
BUYER
BEWARE!

"jason" wrote:

There have been a lot of threads regarding the flaw in OE6 that causes
entire
folders to be lost if you interrupt the compacting process.
Unfortunately,
OE6 gives you the option to "Cancel" the compacting process at any time
without warning you that anything will occur as a result of your doing
so.
This is a serious design flaw that has not been remedied by Microsoft.

However, I know almost a dozen persons who have tried the recovery
program
DBXpress with no measurable success. I note that it is recommended by
most
techs in this newsgroup on a regular basis including by the person who
designed the program. But this program is equally flawed. The chances are
very good that you will not "extract from file," which is the only option
that will allow you to filter or specify what folders you want to recover
from.

If you are forced to "extract from drive," you must have a 2nd hard drive
available to avoid corruption and over-writing and you will be unable to
specify the folders you want. This means you will get every message you
already have as well as deleted messages with little chance at that point
of
recovering any of your lost messages. This can be an organizational
nightmare
and none of this is openly disclosed before you purchase the program.

You should take these things into serious consideration before purchasing
DBXpress.

Jason


  #12  
Old August 31st, 2006, 09:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Steve Cochran
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Posts: 1,640
Default Warning: DBXpress recovery program

Donna == Jason == Colleen

The latter is the real name.

Troll time. Check the

X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 69.12.146.190

Its the same for both indicating they came from the same machine.


steve

"--Alias--" wrote in message
...
donna wrote:
Jason - I had the same experience with DBXpress and couldn't agree with
you more. I also haven't talked with anyone who has had any success with
the program. And there are system requirements and program limitations of
the extract from file option that had I know about it upfront, I would
never have purchased this program. It was a complete waste of my time and
money. BUYER BEWARE!


No need to beware anything if you keep a back up of OE current and on
removable media. I could lose all my messages right now and in less than
one minute, have them all -- except some I just sent -- back and ready to
go. Back up is a computer user's best friend ;-)

Here's a good back up program:

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx

Here's a good tool to compact your messages manually and set the count
back to zero so that if you have a power failure or compacting is
interrupted some other way -- and it happens to be the 100th time you
close OE -- you won't lose your messages. If you receive a lot of
messages, compact daily. If you get ten emails a week, monthly :-)

http://www.oehelp.com/OETool/Default.aspx

It does a lot of other things besides compact.

Both programs are free ware and I have had very positive experience with
both of them.

Alias

"jason" wrote:

There have been a lot of threads regarding the flaw in OE6 that causes
entire folders to be lost if you interrupt the compacting process.
Unfortunately, OE6 gives you the option to "Cancel" the compacting
process at any time without warning you that anything will occur as a
result of your doing so. This is a serious design flaw that has not been
remedied by Microsoft.

However, I know almost a dozen persons who have tried the recovery
program DBXpress with no measurable success. I note that it is
recommended by most techs in this newsgroup on a regular basis including
by the person who designed the program. But this program is equally
flawed. The chances are very good that you will not "extract from file,"
which is the only option that will allow you to filter or specify what
folders you want to recover from.
If you are forced to "extract from drive," you must have a 2nd hard
drive available to avoid corruption and over-writing and you will be
unable to specify the folders you want. This means you will get every
message you already have as well as deleted messages with little chance
at that point of recovering any of your lost messages. This can be an
organizational nightmare and none of this is openly disclosed before you
purchase the program.

You should take these things into serious consideration before
purchasing DBXpress.

Jason


  #13  
Old September 1st, 2006, 02:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
DGuess
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Posts: 201
Default Warning: DBXpress recovery program

Having been a tester of this program and having seen that you are faking
posts, you would be best served to shut up.

The program works and works damn good. I've used it to recover emails from
quite a few computers.

Trying to post as someone else because of your stupidity does not serve you
at all but could open you to libel since your IP address is recorded and can
be used against you.





  #14  
Old October 3rd, 2006, 06:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Michel Merlin
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Posts: 31
Default Can DBXpress extract from Disk to the same Disk?

{This message, written on Wed 6 Sep 2006 16:40:38 GMT, had been shelved, seen the hard atmosphere on this NG, in order to not be unpleasant. But given 1. the way any polite, careful and helpful message I post has been received this month, by Steve Cochran or some other MS people; 2. the facts that such intimidating threads may prevent users from reporting about eventual problems in DBXpress; 3. the facts that I found no report on a successful use of DBXpress, it appears finally better to post it, whatever the risk of being taken as pretext for new agressions.}

---ooOOoo---

I included extended Headers excerpts of the 2 messages form "donna" and "jason"; they do show that most probably, the 2 senders are the same physical person, and that this person is trying to make this obvious. So we have to guess who is that person or group, and who is benefitting from this pretexting.

(BTW, http://www.google.com/search?q=DBXpress shows that a few other products, apparently unrelated, share the same "DBXpress" name.)

Now whatever about the pretexting, it remains that the involved person(s) brought, in moderate and credible terms, a worrying probability that DBXpress would be more dangerous and less useful than touted. The reply they got, as deserved as it is on the pretexting point, is disturbing because in facts ridiculing it instead of addressing it, thus totally overshadowing the real problem, hence greatly helping DBXpress by preventing questions even before they can get asked.

According to "jason" (and apparently denied by none here, while confirmed elsewhere by others), DBXpress warns its users, *buried in the help file that you typically don't read unless after buying*, that:

- extracting contents from damaged DBX files, will most often be
possible only in "extract from disk" mode
- extracting from disk, if output to the same disk, will lead to
unpredictable results (nice words for probable data loss,
since it may always overwrite what you are allegedly
retrieving)

This strong limitation, and the danger if the user violates it (namely, if the user extracts from disk to the same disk), is very little told to the user before he buys the program - and sometimes even denied.

So, letting aside the problem with who is actually pretexting, could Steve answer to the very question that seems overshadowed by this quibble: is DBXpress able or not to extract from disk to same disk without risk, or does it need to use a 2nd drive (e.g. a flash card)?

Paris, Tue 3 Oct 2006 19:12:55 +0200


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Steve Cochran"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message:
Sent: Thu 31 Aug 2006 16:05:30 -0400 (20:05:30 GMT)
Subject: Warning: DBXpress recovery program

Donna == Jason == Colleen

The latter is the real name.

Troll time. Check the

X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 69.12.146.190

Its the same for both indicating they came from the same machine.

steve


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "--Alias--"
Newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/uYQtTnSz...TNGP06.phx.gbl
Sent: Thu 31 Aug 2006 20:18:13 +0200 (18:18:13 GMT)
Subject: Warning: DBXpress recovery program

No need to beware anything if you keep a back up of OE current and on removable media. I could lose all my messages right now and in less than one minute, have them all -- except some I just sent -- back and ready to go. Back up is a computer user's best friend ;-)

Here's a good back up program:

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx

Here's a good tool to compact your messages manually and set the count back to zero so that if you have a power failure or compacting is interrupted some other way -- and it happens to be the 100th time you close OE -- you won't lose your messages. If you receive a lot of messages, compact daily. If you get ten emails a week, monthly :-)

http://www.oehelp.com/OETool/Default.aspx

It does a lot of other things besides compact.

Both programs are free ware and I have had very positive experience with both of them.

Alias


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "donna"
X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 69.12.146.190
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="Utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl 10.40.2.250
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message:
Sent: Thu 31 Aug 2006 10:59:01 -0700 (17:59:01 GMT)
Subject: Warning: DBXpress recovery program

Jason - I had the same experience with DBXpress and couldn't agree with you more. I also haven't talked with anyone who has had any success with the program. And there are system requirements and program limitations of the extract from file option that had I know about it upfront, I would never have purchased this program. It was a complete waste of my time and money. BUYER BEWARE!


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Steve Cochran"
Newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message:
Sent: Tue 29 Aug 2006 17:24:24 -0400 (21:24:24 GMT)
Subject: Warning: DBXpress recovery program

... it is recommended by most techs in this newsgroup
on a regular basis including by the person who designed
the program.


I didn't just "design" the program. I also wrote it and tested it.

The chances are very good that you will not
"extract from file," which is the only option that will
allow you to filter or specify what folders you want to
recover from.


It will let you extract from files, if there are messages in the files, but there were no messages in your files.

If you are forced to "extract from drive," you must have a
2nd hard drive available to avoid corruption and over-writing
and you will be unable to specify the folders you want. This
means you will get every message you already have as well as
deleted messages with little chance at that point of
recovering any of your lost messages. This can be an
organizational nightmare and none of this is openly disclosed
before you purchase the program.


This is ridiculous. You complained in email and now you are complaining in the public newsgroups under a false alias. You hammer my program due to your ignorance and you don't even have the decency to use your real name or email address.

Tell me something. You have lost your messages from the inbox. Maybe the disk clusters still hold some of those messages. So how is the program supposed to know what folders those messages relate to? HUNH? That just shows how little you understand.

You should take these things into serious consideration
before purchasing DBXpress.


And anyone who reads this should take into consideration that whoever posted it is computer illiterate and attacking my program anonymously.

I spent days emailing you and helping you trying to recover your messages that YOU lost and blame Microsoft for. Most people thank me, even though sometimes I can't help them. I feel sorry for anyone who knows you.

Stephen L. Cochran, Ph.D.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional since 1998
Windows Outlook Express / Windows Mail


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "jason"
X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 69.12.146.190
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="Utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl 10.40.2.250
Newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message:
Sent: Tue 29 Aug 2006 10:10:02 -0700 (17:10:02 GMT)
Subject: Warning: DBXpress recovery program

There have been a lot of threads regarding the flaw in OE6 that causes entire folders to be lost if you interrupt the compacting process. Unfortunately, OE6 gives you the option to "Cancel" the compacting process at any time without warning you that anything will occur as a result of your doing so. This is a serious design flaw that has not been remedied by Microsoft.

However, I know almost a dozen persons who have tried the recovery program DBXpress with no measurable success. I note that it is recommended by most techs in this newsgroup on a regular basis including by the person who designed the program. But this program is equally flawed. The chances are very good that you will not "extract from file," which is the only option that will allow you to filter or specify what folders you want to recover from.

If you are forced to "extract from drive," you must have a 2nd hard drive available to avoid corruption and over-writing and you will be unable to specify the folders you want. This means you will get every message you already have as well as deleted messages with little chance at that point of recovering any of your lost messages. This can be an organizational nightmare and none of this is openly disclosed before you purchase the program.

You should take these things into serious consideration before purchasing DBXpress.

Jason
  #15  
Old October 4th, 2006, 01:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
urska
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Posts: 16
Default Can DBXpress extract from Disk to the same Disk?


"Michel Merlin" je napisal v sporocilo
...
{This message, written on Wed 6 Sep 2006 16:40:38 GMT, had been shelved,
seen the hard atmosphere on this NG, in order to not be unpleasant. But
given 1. the way any polite, careful and helpful message I post has been
received this month, by Steve Cochran or some other MS people; 2. the facts
that such intimidating threads may prevent users from reporting about
eventual problems in DBXpress; 3. the facts that I found no report on a
successful use of DBXpress, it appears finally better to post it, whatever
the risk of being taken as pretext for new agressions.}

---ooOOoo---

I included extended Headers excerpts of the 2 messages form "donna" and
"jason"; they do show that most probably, the 2 senders are the same
physical person, and that this person is trying to make this obvious. So we
have to guess who is that person or group, and who is benefitting from this
pretexting.

(BTW, http://www.google.com/search?q=DBXpress shows that a few other
products, apparently unrelated, share the same "DBXpress" name.)

Now whatever about the pretexting, it remains that the involved person(s)
brought, in moderate and credible terms, a worrying probability that
DBXpress would be more dangerous and less useful than touted. The reply they
got, as deserved as it is on the pretexting point, is disturbing because in
facts ridiculing it instead of addressing it, thus totally overshadowing the
real problem, hence greatly helping DBXpress by preventing questions even
before they can get asked.

According to "jason" (and apparently denied by none here, while confirmed
elsewhere by others), DBXpress warns its users, *buried in the help file
that you typically don't read unless after buying*, that:

- extracting contents from damaged DBX files, will most often be
possible only in "extract from disk" mode
- extracting from disk, if output to the same disk, will lead to
unpredictable results (nice words for probable data loss,
since it may always overwrite what you are allegedly
retrieving)

This strong limitation, and the danger if the user violates it (namely, if
the user extracts from disk to the same disk), is very little told to the
user before he buys the program - and sometimes even denied.

So, letting aside the problem with who is actually pretexting, could Steve
answer to the very question that seems overshadowed by this quibble: is
DBXpress able or not to extract from disk to same disk without risk, or does
it need to use a 2nd drive (e.g. a flash card)?

Paris, Tue 3 Oct 2006 19:12:55 +0200


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Steve Cochran"
Newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message:

Sent: Thu 31 Aug 2006 16:05:30 -0400 (20:05:30 GMT)
Subject: Warning: DBXpress recovery program

Donna == Jason == Colleen

The latter is the real name.

Troll time. Check the

X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 69.12.146.190

Its the same for both indicating they came from the same machine.

steve


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "--Alias--"
Newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/uYQtTnSz...TNGP06.phx.gbl
Sent: Thu 31 Aug 2006 20:18:13 +0200 (18:18:13 GMT)
Subject: Warning: DBXpress recovery program

No need to beware anything if you keep a back up of OE current and on
removable media. I could lose all my messages right now and in less than one
minute, have them all -- except some I just sent -- back and ready to go.
Back up is a computer user's best friend ;-)

Here's a good back up program:

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx

Here's a good tool to compact your messages manually and set the count back
to zero so that if you have a power failure or compacting is interrupted
some other way -- and it happens to be the 100th time you close OE -- you
won't lose your messages. If you receive a lot of messages, compact daily.
If you get ten emails a week, monthly :-)

http://www.oehelp.com/OETool/Default.aspx

It does a lot of other things besides compact.

Both programs are free ware and I have had very positive experience with
both of them.

Alias


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "donna"
X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 69.12.146.190
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="Utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl 10.40.2.250
Newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message:

Sent: Thu 31 Aug 2006 10:59:01 -0700 (17:59:01 GMT)
Subject: Warning: DBXpress recovery program

Jason - I had the same experience with DBXpress and couldn't agree with you
more. I also haven't talked with anyone who has had any success with the
program. And there are system requirements and program limitations of the
extract from file option that had I know about it upfront, I would never
have purchased this program. It was a complete waste of my time and money.
BUYER BEWARE!


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Steve Cochran"
Newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message:

Sent: Tue 29 Aug 2006 17:24:24 -0400 (21:24:24 GMT)
Subject: Warning: DBXpress recovery program

... it is recommended by most techs in this newsgroup
on a regular basis including by the person who designed
the program.


I didn't just "design" the program. I also wrote it and tested it.

The chances are very good that you will not
"extract from file," which is the only option that will
allow you to filter or specify what folders you want to
recover from.


It will let you extract from files, if there are messages in the files, but
there were no messages in your files.

If you are forced to "extract from drive," you must have a
2nd hard drive available to avoid corruption and over-writing
and you will be unable to specify the folders you want. This
means you will get every message you already have as well as
deleted messages with little chance at that point of
recovering any of your lost messages. This can be an
organizational nightmare and none of this is openly disclosed
before you purchase the program.


This is ridiculous. You complained in email and now you are complaining in
the public newsgroups under a false alias. You hammer my program due to
your ignorance and you don't even have the decency to use your real name or
email address.

Tell me something. You have lost your messages from the inbox. Maybe the
disk clusters still hold some of those messages. So how is the program
supposed to know what folders those messages relate to? HUNH? That just
shows how little you understand.

You should take these things into serious consideration
before purchasing DBXpress.


And anyone who reads this should take into consideration that whoever posted
it is computer illiterate and attacking my program anonymously.

I spent days emailing you and helping you trying to recover your messages
that YOU lost and blame Microsoft for. Most people thank me, even though
sometimes I can't help them. I feel sorry for anyone who knows you.

Stephen L. Cochran, Ph.D.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional since 1998
Windows Outlook Express / Windows Mail


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "jason"
X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 69.12.146.190
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="Utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl 10.40.2.250
Newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message:

Sent: Tue 29 Aug 2006 10:10:02 -0700 (17:10:02 GMT)
Subject: Warning: DBXpress recovery program

There have been a lot of threads regarding the flaw in OE6 that causes
entire folders to be lost if you interrupt the compacting process.
Unfortunately, OE6 gives you the option to "Cancel" the compacting process
at any time without warning you that anything will occur as a result of your
doing so. This is a serious design flaw that has not been remedied by
Microsoft.

However, I know almost a dozen persons who have tried the recovery program
DBXpress with no measurable success. I note that it is recommended by most
techs in this newsgroup on a regular basis including by the person who
designed the program. But this program is equally flawed. The chances are
very good that you will not "extract from file," which is the only option
that will allow you to filter or specify what folders you want to recover
from.

If you are forced to "extract from drive," you must have a 2nd hard drive
available to avoid corruption and over-writing and you will be unable to
specify the folders you want. This means you will get every message you
already have as well as deleted messages with little chance at that point of
recovering any of your lost messages. This can be an organizational
nightmare and none of this is openly disclosed before you purchase the
program.

You should take these things into serious consideration before purchasing
DBXpress.

Jason


  #16  
Old October 7th, 2006, 04:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
marcella grungo
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Posts: 2
Default Can DBXpress extract from Disk to the same Disk?


"Michel Merlin" wrote in message
...
{This message, written on Wed 6 Sep 2006 16:40:38 GMT, had been shelved,
seen the hard atmosphere on this NG, in order to not be unpleasant. But
given 1. the way any polite, careful and helpful message I post has been
received this month, by Steve Cochran or some other MS people; 2. the facts
that such intimidating threads may prevent users from reporting about
eventual problems in DBXpress; 3. the facts that I found no report on a
successful use of DBXpress, it appears finally better to post it, whatever
the risk of being taken as pretext for new agressions.}

---ooOOoo---

I included extended Headers excerpts of the 2 messages form "donna" and
"jason"; they do show that most probably, the 2 senders are the same
physical person, and that this person is trying to make this obvious. So we
have to guess who is that person or group, and who is benefitting from this
pretexting.

(BTW, http://www.google.com/search?q=DBXpress shows that a few other
products, apparently unrelated, share the same "DBXpress" name.)

Now whatever about the pretexting, it remains that the involved person(s)
brought, in moderate and credible terms, a worrying probability that
DBXpress would be more dangerous and less useful than touted. The reply they
got, as deserved as it is on the pretexting point, is disturbing because in
facts ridiculing it instead of addressing it, thus totally overshadowing the
real problem, hence greatly helping DBXpress by preventing questions even
before they can get asked.

According to "jason" (and apparently denied by none here, while confirmed
elsewhere by others), DBXpress warns its users, *buried in the help file
that you typically don't read unless after buying*, that:

- extracting contents from damaged DBX files, will most often be
possible only in "extract from disk" mode
- extracting from disk, if output to the same disk, will lead to
unpredictable results (nice words for probable data loss,
since it may always overwrite what you are allegedly
retrieving)

This strong limitation, and the danger if the user violates it (namely, if
the user extracts from disk to the same disk), is very little told to the
user before he buys the program - and sometimes even denied.

So, letting aside the problem with who is actually pretexting, could Steve
answer to the very question that seems overshadowed by this quibble: is
DBXpress able or not to extract from disk to same disk without risk, or does
it need to use a 2nd drive (e.g. a flash card)?

Paris, Tue 3 Oct 2006 19:12:55 +0200


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Steve Cochran"
Newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message:

Sent: Thu 31 Aug 2006 16:05:30 -0400 (20:05:30 GMT)
Subject: Warning: DBXpress recovery program

Donna == Jason == Colleen

The latter is the real name.

Troll time. Check the

X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 69.12.146.190

Its the same for both indicating they came from the same machine.

steve


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "--Alias--"
Newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/uYQtTnSz...TNGP06.phx.gbl
Sent: Thu 31 Aug 2006 20:18:13 +0200 (18:18:13 GMT)
Subject: Warning: DBXpress recovery program

No need to beware anything if you keep a back up of OE current and on
removable media. I could lose all my messages right now and in less than one
minute, have them all -- except some I just sent -- back and ready to go.
Back up is a computer user's best friend ;-)

Here's a good back up program:

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx

Here's a good tool to compact your messages manually and set the count back
to zero so that if you have a power failure or compacting is interrupted
some other way -- and it happens to be the 100th time you close OE -- you
won't lose your messages. If you receive a lot of messages, compact daily.
If you get ten emails a week, monthly :-)

http://www.oehelp.com/OETool/Default.aspx

It does a lot of other things besides compact.

Both programs are free ware and I have had very positive experience with
both of them.

Alias


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Jason - I had the same experience with DBXpress and couldn't agree with you
more. I also haven't talked with anyone who has had any success with the
program. And there are system requirements and program limitations of the
extract from file option that had I know about it upfront, I would never
have purchased this program. It was a complete waste of my time and money.
BUYER BEWARE!


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... it is recommended by most techs in this newsgroup
on a regular basis including by the person who designed
the program.


I didn't just "design" the program. I also wrote it and tested it.

The chances are very good that you will not
"extract from file," which is the only option that will
allow you to filter or specify what folders you want to
recover from.


It will let you extract from files, if there are messages in the files, but
there were no messages in your files.

If you are forced to "extract from drive," you must have a
2nd hard drive available to avoid corruption and over-writing
and you will be unable to specify the folders you want. This
means you will get every message you already have as well as
deleted messages with little chance at that point of
recovering any of your lost messages. This can be an
organizational nightmare and none of this is openly disclosed
before you purchase the program.


This is ridiculous. You complained in email and now you are complaining in
the public newsgroups under a false alias. You hammer my program due to
your ignorance and you don't even have the decency to use your real name or
email address.

Tell me something. You have lost your messages from the inbox. Maybe the
disk clusters still hold some of those messages. So how is the program
supposed to know what folders those messages relate to? HUNH? That just
shows how little you understand.

You should take these things into serious consideration
before purchasing DBXpress.


And anyone who reads this should take into consideration that whoever posted
it is computer illiterate and attacking my program anonymously.

I spent days emailing you and helping you trying to recover your messages
that YOU lost and blame Microsoft for. Most people thank me, even though
sometimes I can't help them. I feel sorry for anyone who knows you.

Stephen L. Cochran, Ph.D.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional since 1998
Windows Outlook Express / Windows Mail


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There have been a lot of threads regarding the flaw in OE6 that causes
entire folders to be lost if you interrupt the compacting process.
Unfortunately, OE6 gives you the option to "Cancel" the compacting process
at any time without warning you that anything will occur as a result of your
doing so. This is a serious design flaw that has not been remedied by
Microsoft.

However, I know almost a dozen persons who have tried the recovery program
DBXpress with no measurable success. I note that it is recommended by most
techs in this newsgroup on a regular basis including by the person who
designed the program. But this program is equally flawed. The chances are
very good that you will not "extract from file," which is the only option
that will allow you to filter or specify what folders you want to recover
from.

If you are forced to "extract from drive," you must have a 2nd hard drive
available to avoid corruption and over-writing and you will be unable to
specify the folders you want. This means you will get every message you
already have as well as deleted messages with little chance at that point of
recovering any of your lost messages. This can be an organizational
nightmare and none of this is openly disclosed before you purchase the
program.

You should take these things into serious consideration before purchasing
DBXpress.

Jason


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Old December 13th, 2006, 03:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Michel Merlin
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Default DBXpress CANNOT extract from Disk to the same Disk

My question having received no answer after 2 months, given the previous reports and the context, confirms that, in facts and despite opposite claims from various sources (including the author),

DBXpress CANNOT extract from Disk to the same Disk
(unless jeopardizing the very data you are
attempting to recover).

Ridiculing the persons daring to say it (as happened and may happen again) won't make it false - unless maybe to some fast readers unfamiliar with the innards of FS (File Systems). I may re-explain if necessary for the eventual honest ones.

{Those person(s) "daring to say it" having hid themsel(ves) behind alias(es), we can't know who is really with them or against them. While unfortunate, this doesn't change the ground.}

Paris, Wed 13 Dec 2006 15:46:40 +0100


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Subject: Can DBXpress extract from Disk to the same Disk?

............
Now whatever about the pretexting, it remains that the involved person(s) brought, in moderate and credible terms, a worrying probability that DBXpress would be more dangerous and less useful than touted. The reply they got, as deserved as it is on the pretexting point, is disturbing because in facts ridiculing it instead of addressing it, thus totally overshadowing the real problem, hence greatly helping DBXpress by preventing questions even before they can get asked.

According to "jason" (and apparently denied by none here, while confirmed elsewhere by others), DBXpress warns its users, *buried in the help file that you typically don't read unless after buying*, that:

- extracting contents from damaged DBX files, will most often be
possible only in "extract from disk" mode
- extracting from disk, if output to the same disk, will lead to
unpredictable results (nice words for probable data loss,
since it may always overwrite what you are allegedly
retrieving)

This strong limitation, and the danger if the user violates it (namely, if the user extracts from disk to the same disk), is very little told to the user before he buys the program - and sometimes even denied.

So, letting aside the problem with who is actually pretexting, could Steve answer to the very question that seems overshadowed by this quibble: is DBXpress able or not to extract from disk to same disk without risk, or does it need to use a 2nd drive (e.g. a flash card)?

Paris, Tue 3 Oct 2006 19:12:55 +0200


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Sent: Thu 31 Aug 2006 16:05:30 -0400 (20:05:30 GMT)
Subject: Warning: DBXpress recovery program

Donna == Jason == Colleen
...................


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Sent: Thu 31 Aug 2006 20:18:13 +0200 (18:18:13 GMT)
Subject: Warning: DBXpress recovery program

................


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Message:
Sent: Thu 31 Aug 2006 10:59:01 -0700 (17:59:01 GMT)
Subject: Warning: DBXpress recovery program

.............


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From: "Steve Cochran"
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Message:
Sent: Tue 29 Aug 2006 17:24:24 -0400 (21:24:24 GMT)
Subject: Warning: DBXpress recovery program

.................
I didn't just "design" the program. I also wrote it and tested it.

The chances are very good that you will not
"extract from file," which is the only option that will
allow you to filter or specify what folders you want to
recover from.


It will let you extract from files, if there are messages in the files, but there were no messages in your files.

If you are forced to "extract from drive," you must have a
2nd hard drive available to avoid corruption and over-writing
and you will be unable to specify the folders you want. This
means you will get every message you already have as well as
deleted messages with little chance at that point of
recovering any of your lost messages. This can be an
organizational nightmare and none of this is openly disclosed
before you purchase the program.


This is ridiculous. You complained in email and now you are complaining in the public newsgroups under a false alias. You hammer my program due to your ignorance and you don't even have the decency to use your real name or email address.

..................

Stephen L. Cochran, Ph.D.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional since 1998
Windows Outlook Express / Windows Mail


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From: "jason"
Newsgroup:
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Message:
Sent: Tue 29 Aug 2006 10:10:02 -0700 (17:10:02 GMT)
Subject: Warning: DBXpress recovery program

There have been a lot of threads regarding the flaw in OE6 that causes entire folders to be lost if you interrupt the compacting process. Unfortunately, OE6 gives you the option to "Cancel" the compacting process at any time without warning you that anything will occur as a result of your doing so. This is a serious design flaw that has not been remedied by Microsoft.

However, I know almost a dozen persons who have tried the recovery program DBXpress with no measurable success. I note that it is recommended by most techs in this newsgroup on a regular basis including by the person who designed the program. But this program is equally flawed. The chances are very good that you will not "extract from file," which is the only option that will allow you to filter or specify what folders you want to recover from.

If you are forced to "extract from drive," you must have a 2nd hard drive available to avoid corruption and over-writing and you will be unable to specify the folders you want. This means you will get every message you already have as well as deleted messages with little chance at that point of recovering any of your lost messages. This can be an organizational nightmare and none of this is openly disclosed before you purchase the program.

You should take these things into serious consideration before purchasing DBXpress.

Jason
 




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