Message could not be displayed

OOPS, forgot to check the box to notify me of replies. I will check often
for what is happening within this wonderful site.
--
brandnewme


"Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM" wrote:

"Peter" wrote in message
...
McAfee

"PA Bear" wrote:

Welcome, fellow sufferer!

I have unisnstalled protection software and it seems to alleivate the
issue.
Then when I reinstall it comes back.

What "protection software" did you uninstall/reinstall, please? Please
be
specific and thorough.


Uninstall McAfee and replace it with Avast!. Do a Custom install and don't
install email scanning.

--
Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
www.fjsmjs.com
Do not send email

1. Since others experiencing this behavior are not running a McAfee
application and do not have email scanning enabled, I doubt McAfee has
anything to do with your instance of the problem.

2. To test OE performance (i.e., to see if & when the behavior returns),
you've gotta run/use OE for much more than 4 hours. I've had it up &
running for 10-12 hours before the behavior returned; then again, I've seen
it return 5 minutes after closing/reopening OE.
--
~PA Bear


Peter wrote:
The whole McAfee package: VirusScan, Firewall, SEcurity center, etc. I did
use the removal tool and I did not install any other anti virus program. I
ran OE for about 4 hours before reinstalling. My computer came with the
program free for the first 90 days and then I purchased the subscription
from McAfee. Upon removal and reinstallation, I downloaded the reinstall
from McAfee each time and followed their installation directions.


"PA Bear" wrote:

That's not very specific, Peter. McAfee VirusScan, McAfeeVirusScan Plus,
McAfee Internet Security, McAfee Security Center, or...?

How long did you run OE with "McAfee" uninstalled? Did you also run the
McAfee Consumer Removal Tool2 [sic]? Did you install another anti-virus
application (and third-party firewall, if applicable) temporarily? If
so,
did you uninstall it/them before reinstalling "McAfee"?

Did you purchase this McAfee application or is it a freebie provided by
your ISP?
--
~PA Bear

Peter wrote:
McAfee
"PA Bear" wrote:

Welcome, fellow sufferer!

I have unisnstalled protection software and it seems to alleivate the
issue.
Then when I reinstall it comes back.

What "protection software" did you uninstall/reinstall, please? Please
be
specific and thorough.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.org/


Peter wrote:
I am glad to see I too am not the only one having this issue and it
seems
to
be fairly recent that this has occurred. Recent to the point, that I
think
this occurred around an update of some sort with in the last 2 months.
I
get
the same error message, Can't open, low memory, low disk space.

I have unisnstalled protection software and it seems to alleivate the
issue.
Then when I reinstall it comes back. Very frustrating. Only way around
it
so
far is to close OE and open up again. Then it will work for a time and
...
same issue. Very frustrated.
snip

Hi Gary.. did't mean to ignore you. I hadn't seen your post until just
recently. Yes.. I am "one in the same", in regard to the referenced thread,
as much as I'd like not to be. It's been an interesting and informative
journery, however, I wish it was a "different" kind of journey. One less
frustrating and more provocative. I agree with all you said - to include
your confidence in Robear. I'm "tuned to the station" for better or for
worse.

"Gary Brandenburg" wrote:

Hello Carol, Glad you joined us here, in our quest to get OE working the way it
was(if at all,possible).
Are you the one that's been posting at http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=29224 ?
If so, I was the same way, as far as hoping to find a solution, before having to post
anywhere, in attempts to fix the annoyance that's been plaguing us since the
beginning of Sept. I put up with this for about a week or so, before posting to the
NGs.
I love checking this place for solutions for other's problems, as well as some "How
To" tips & tricks, but this was my 1st post, seeking help myself.
I feel very confident in Robear's abilities to find a solution to this repeated
occurrence, & he too, is having the same problem .
As he said:
snip
Stay tuned to this station.
snip

~Gary



"Carol" wrote in message
...
Me too Same behavior.. running Defender

"PA Bear, MS MVP" wrote:

ATTN anyone who's monitoring this thread or seeing the same behavior:
If you're running Windows Defender, please reply to this post and tell
me so. Thanks.

[x-post to OE6; posted via Google Groups]
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)

On Sep 11, 9:11 pm, "Gary Brandenburg" blah,blah,blah@blah blah.com
wrote:
| Outlook Express encountered an unexpected problem while displaying this
| message. Check your computer for low memory or low disk space and try
again.

Sorry-Was going to wait to send this (send later) but it disappeared from my
Outbox.
Anyway,this is what I see after I've been perusing the newsgroups a while.
This just started occurring the last week or so & whenever it's about to
happen,the virtual memory for Outlook Express,according to Process
Explorer,is approaching 2,000,000k.
I removed some old entries that I had been saving in Drafts & compact all
folders regularly,but still no joy.
I know it can't be lack of memory since I have a gig of physical ram on this
machine(XP Home).
I'm not sure,but I think it started around the time I updated MSN Messenger
to 8.5 & it asked during installation if I wanted it to handle my default
email ,which I thought it meant Hotmail. While installing,the download
proceeded to remove the OE icon from my desktop & replaced it with 1 for
Windows Mail. I interrupted the install when the setup wizard for mail
started & when I did,the OE icon reappeared,along with an error message
about the interruption of the setup.
I used to be able to spend hours on the newsgroups,with no problems & now I
have to close OE & reopen it to be able to continue,till I approach the
2,000,000k mark.
Please help me with this as I have learned so much from these newsgroups (XP
General,mostly) but am quite new here in the OE group,& have not found
anything that relates to my dilemma.
~Gary

I am new to this help site and I wanted to know if there is any solution to
the problem with Outlook Express just quitting? If anyone can give me some
help it would greatly be appreciated.
--
brandnewme


"~Carol" wrote:

Hi Gary.. did't mean to ignore you. I hadn't seen your post until just
recently. Yes.. I am "one in the same", in regard to the referenced thread,
as much as I'd like not to be. It's been an interesting and informative
journery, however, I wish it was a "different" kind of journey. One less
frustrating and more provocative. I agree with all you said - to include
your confidence in Robear. I'm "tuned to the station" for better or for
worse.

"Gary Brandenburg" wrote:

Hello Carol, Glad you joined us here, in our quest to get OE working the way it
was(if at all,possible).
Are you the one that's been posting at http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=29224 ?
If so, I was the same way, as far as hoping to find a solution, before having to post
anywhere, in attempts to fix the annoyance that's been plaguing us since the
beginning of Sept. I put up with this for about a week or so, before posting to the
NGs.
I love checking this place for solutions for other's problems, as well as some "How
To" tips & tricks, but this was my 1st post, seeking help myself.
I feel very confident in Robear's abilities to find a solution to this repeated
occurrence, & he too, is having the same problem .
As he said:
snip
Stay tuned to this station.
snip

~Gary



"Carol" wrote in message
...
Me too Same behavior.. running Defender

"PA Bear, MS MVP" wrote:

ATTN anyone who's monitoring this thread or seeing the same behavior:
If you're running Windows Defender, please reply to this post and tell
me so. Thanks.

[x-post to OE6; posted via Google Groups]
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)

On Sep 11, 9:11 pm, "Gary Brandenburg" blah,blah,blah@blah blah.com
wrote:
| Outlook Express encountered an unexpected problem while displaying this
| message. Check your computer for low memory or low disk space and try
again.

Sorry-Was going to wait to send this (send later) but it disappeared from my
Outbox.
Anyway,this is what I see after I've been perusing the newsgroups a while.
This just started occurring the last week or so & whenever it's about to
happen,the virtual memory for Outlook Express,according to Process
Explorer,is approaching 2,000,000k.
I removed some old entries that I had been saving in Drafts & compact all
folders regularly,but still no joy.
I know it can't be lack of memory since I have a gig of physical ram on this
machine(XP Home).
I'm not sure,but I think it started around the time I updated MSN Messenger
to 8.5 & it asked during installation if I wanted it to handle my default
email ,which I thought it meant Hotmail. While installing,the download
proceeded to remove the OE icon from my desktop & replaced it with 1 for
Windows Mail. I interrupted the install when the setup wizard for mail
started & when I did,the OE icon reappeared,along with an error message
about the interruption of the setup.
I used to be able to spend hours on the newsgroups,with no problems & now I
have to close OE & reopen it to be able to continue,till I approach the
2,000,000k mark.
Please help me with this as I have learned so much from these newsgroups (XP
General,mostly) but am quite new here in the OE group,& have not found
anything that relates to my dilemma.
~Gary

Need much more info from you. Please see this page
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm then post back to this thread with the
information we'd need to be able to assist you properly. Thank you.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.org/

brandnewme wrote:
I am new to this help site and I wanted to know if there is any solution
to
the problem with Outlook Express just quitting? If anyone can give me
some
help it would greatly be appreciated.
snip

"croomes" wrote in message
...
Having the same problem - running Windows Vista Home Premium, with Windows
Mail. I'm not running Windows Defender, but am running McAfee.

Keep getting the "message could not be displayed" message when
housekeeping
my Inbox and my local folders. Then find that the message header stays in
the
Inbox, but you can't delete it!

Sharon Croome, UK

Hey Carol-
Still living with this problem so I haven't even bothered posting here lately!
It's hard enough, just checking other threads, & I do miss being able to do that,
uninterrupted, without getting the error, & having to close/restart OE.
It seems to get worse at times, or it may be times when I'm just getting into reading
an interesting post.(& to think that I used to be able to spend hours here)
It's really got to be a pain for someone like Robear, who might be in the middle of
an involved response to someone's thread, when it happens.
It's going on the third month of this "thing" & it's getting so old!(actually started
the 1st week of Sept.-just didn't post on here till the next week or so) I guess that
I was hoping it would "just go away". Heehee
Sorry to seem to rant, Carol. Finally getting back to your response & didn't want you
to think that I was ignoring you either.
How are things on your end? I've been watching your thread for any further
developments.

~Gary

"~Carol" wrote in message
...
Hi Gary.. did't mean to ignore you. I hadn't seen your post until just
recently. Yes.. I am "one in the same", in regard to the referenced thread,
as much as I'd like not to be. It's been an interesting and informative
journery, however, I wish it was a "different" kind of journey. One less
frustrating and more provocative. I agree with all you said - to include
your confidence in Robear. I'm "tuned to the station" for better or for
worse.

"Gary Brandenburg" wrote:

Hello Carol, Glad you joined us here, in our quest to get OE working the way it
was(if at all,possible).
Are you the one that's been posting at http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=29224
?
If so, I was the same way, as far as hoping to find a solution, before having to
post
anywhere, in attempts to fix the annoyance that's been plaguing us since the
beginning of Sept. I put up with this for about a week or so, before posting to the
NGs.
I love checking this place for solutions for other's problems, as well as some
"How
To" tips & tricks, but this was my 1st post, seeking help myself.
I feel very confident in Robear's abilities to find a solution to this repeated
occurrence, & he too, is having the same problem .
As he said:
snip
Stay tuned to this station.
snip

~Gary



"Carol" wrote in message
...
Me too Same behavior.. running Defender

"PA Bear, MS MVP" wrote:

ATTN anyone who's monitoring this thread or seeing the same behavior:
If you're running Windows Defender, please reply to this post and tell
me so. Thanks.

[x-post to OE6; posted via Google Groups]
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)

On Sep 11, 9:11 pm, "Gary Brandenburg" blah,blah,blah@blah blah.com
wrote:
| Outlook Express encountered an unexpected problem while displaying this
| message. Check your computer for low memory or low disk space and try
again.

Sorry-Was going to wait to send this (send later) but it disappeared from my
Outbox.
Anyway,this is what I see after I've been perusing the newsgroups a while.
This just started occurring the last week or so & whenever it's about to
happen,the virtual memory for Outlook Express,according to Process
Explorer,is approaching 2,000,000k.
I removed some old entries that I had been saving in Drafts & compact all
folders regularly,but still no joy.
I know it can't be lack of memory since I have a gig of physical ram on this
machine(XP Home).
I'm not sure,but I think it started around the time I updated MSN Messenger
to 8.5 & it asked during installation if I wanted it to handle my default
email ,which I thought it meant Hotmail. While installing,the download
proceeded to remove the OE icon from my desktop & replaced it with 1 for
Windows Mail. I interrupted the install when the setup wizard for mail
started & when I did,the OE icon reappeared,along with an error message
about the interruption of the setup.
I used to be able to spend hours on the newsgroups,with no problems & now I
have to close OE & reopen it to be able to continue,till I approach the
2,000,000k mark.
Please help me with this as I have learned so much from these newsgroups (XP
General,mostly) but am quite new here in the OE group,& have not found
anything that relates to my dilemma.
~Gary

"banty" wrote in message
...

"croomes" wrote in message
...
Having the same problem - running Windows Vista Home Premium, with
Windows
Mail. I'm not running Windows Defender, but am running McAfee.

Keep getting the "message could not be displayed" message when
housekeeping
my Inbox and my local folders. Then find that the message header stays in
the
Inbox, but you can't delete it!

Sharon Croome, UK

On Oct 22, 5:05 am, "PA Bear, MS MVP" wrote:
ATTN anyone who's monitoring this thread or seeing the same behavior:
If you're running Windows Defender, please reply to this post and tell
me so. Thanks.

PA Bear,
I have the same problem and am running Windows Defender. Put together
this summary for your information:
I have been experiencing a range of 'cannot display folder/message'
for about two months. Have searched the web for a
solution without success; this site seems to offer the most pertinent
information aong with the promise that the 'fix' will be
psoted here when found.
My computer specs are XP Home SP2 with all updates, dual core CPU, 2
GB RAM, two 250 GB HDs, Vista/DX10 compatible video
card all of which makes a mockery of the warnings I get about low
disk space and memory as a likely cause of this problem.
I have tried most of the suggestions mentioned on this and other web
sites, new identity, compacting folders offline and reducing large
folders by moving emails, etc without any success. My latest and most
drastic experiment was as follows: I closed OE6, moved all the mail
folders (dbx files) to another folder and re-opened OE6 which gave me
a pristine set of default folders. When some mail arrived and I
replied to a few messages it was not long before the 'display' problem
occurred again!
A friend suggested I use Thunderbird instead of Outlook Express so
installed the latest version and, after some fiddling with
Gmail settings, got it working but I have to say I much prefer Outlook
Express and thus returned to the quest for a 'fix' to this
current frustrating problem. Was using AVG-Free antivirus - email
scanning disabled - now trying Avast with no change to the
'cannot display' situation.
Read somewhere that lack of 'resources' is often the cause of strange
behaviour with some programs so I opened Task
Manager and, on the Processes tab, added columns for Handles, User
Objects and GDI Objects. Not being a Windows

programmer I don't know what these terms mean but I can understand
numbers and when, say, the Handles used by
msimn.exe rises to 55,000+ and the next highest number is 1,500
(svchost.exe) I am left wondering if just maybe this is an area
worth investigating? The current Task Manager figures for my Outlook
Express and Thunderbird (just for comparison) a
Comparing OE6 and Thunderbird2:
Mem Usage 42 MB 24MB
VM Usage 16MB 15MB
Handles 55,421 189
User Objects 135 61
GDI Objects 229 96

With only the default mail folders, with 22 emails in the Inbox and 1
in Drafts, restarting OE6 reduced the Handles figure to
374, User Objects to 112 and GDI objects to 172. By the way, when the
"Cannot display...' message occurs now I can restore
normal operation by selecting, say, the Drafts folder and then return
to the Inbox where previously I would have to close and
re-open OE6 or sometimes reboot the computer.
Hope this is of some help and that Microsoft, or somebody somewhere
resolves this problem in the near future!!!!
JackR

wrote:
On Oct 22, 5:05 am, "PA Bear, MS MVP" wrote:
ATTN anyone who's monitoring this thread or seeing the same behavior:
If you're running Windows Defender, please reply to this post and tell
me so. Thanks.

PA Bear,
I have the same problem and am running Windows Defender. Put together
this summary for your information:
I have been experiencing a range of 'cannot display folder/message'
for about two months. Have searched the web for a
solution without success; this site seems to offer the most pertinent
information aong with the promise that the 'fix' will be
psoted here when found.
My computer specs are XP Home SP2 with all updates, dual core CPU, 2
GB RAM, two 250 GB HDs, Vista/DX10 compatible video
card all of which makes a mockery of the warnings I get about low
disk space and memory as a likely cause of this problem.
I have tried most of the suggestions mentioned on this and other web
sites, new identity, compacting folders offline and reducing large
folders by moving emails, etc without any success. My latest and most
drastic experiment was as follows: I closed OE6, moved all the mail
folders (dbx files) to another folder and re-opened OE6 which gave me
a pristine set of default folders. When some mail arrived and I
replied to a few messages it was not long before the 'display' problem
occurred again!
A friend suggested I use Thunderbird instead of Outlook Express so
installed the latest version and, after some fiddling with
Gmail settings, got it working but I have to say I much prefer Outlook
Express and thus returned to the quest for a 'fix' to this
current frustrating problem. Was using AVG-Free antivirus - email
scanning disabled - now trying Avast with no change to the
'cannot display' situation.
Read somewhere that lack of 'resources' is often the cause of strange
behaviour with some programs so I opened Task
Manager and, on the Processes tab, added columns for Handles, User
Objects and GDI Objects. Not being a Windows

programmer I don't know what these terms mean but I can understand
numbers and when, say, the Handles used by
msimn.exe rises to 55,000+ and the next highest number is 1,500
(svchost.exe) I am left wondering if just maybe this is an area
worth investigating? The current Task Manager figures for my Outlook
Express and Thunderbird (just for comparison) a
Comparing OE6 and Thunderbird2:
Mem Usage 42 MB 24MB
VM Usage 16MB 15MB
Handles 55,421 189
User Objects 135 61
GDI Objects 229 96

With only the default mail folders, with 22 emails in the Inbox and 1
in Drafts, restarting OE6 reduced the Handles figure to
374, User Objects to 112 and GDI objects to 172. By the way, when the
"Cannot display...' message occurs now I can restore
normal operation by selecting, say, the Drafts folder and then return
to the Inbox where previously I would have to close and
re-open OE6 or sometimes reboot the computer.
Hope this is of some help and that Microsoft, or somebody somewhere
resolves this problem in the near future!!!!

[OE's got a wry sense of humor: When I tried to reply to your post, I got
that d*** error again!]

If you read through the posts to this thread, you'll find that nothing
you've mentioned (i.e., Defender; anti-virus app installed; computer specs)
appears to be the cause of the behavior.

What the size of your entire message store folder
(http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#storemain)?

...By the way, when the
"Cannot display...' message occurs now I can restore
normal operation by selecting, say, the Drafts folder and then return
to the Inbox...

Doesn't fix it here, and I suspect that, for you, it's only a temporary fix.

I've had OE up and running for well over 24 hours (using it almost
constantly while I'm awake) before encountering the behavior. Conversely,
I've seen the behavior occur several times in 1 hour or less. sigh

Again, if and when a resolution is found, I'll post about it in this thread.
Thanks for adding yourself to the every-growing list of sufferers, which
certainly does NOT appear to include all OE/WinXP SP2 users.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.org/