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Old June 10th, 2004, 06:10 PM
DreAndre
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Default Page Break vs Column Break

I've noticed that when I use Column break in a section with only one column, it performs as if I've inserted a page break. Is there any difference in this situation between using a Page break, or a Column break (when working with one column)?
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Old June 10th, 2004, 08:57 PM
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Page Break vs Column Break

I've observed (and wondered) the same thing. Although they are functionally
the same in this case, I think I would use a page break if that's what's
called for, rather than a column break, just because the latter might be
confusing--to you, to Word, and especially to anyone else who might later
have to work with your document.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"DreAndre" wrote in message
...
I've noticed that when I use Column break in a section with only one

column, it performs as if I've inserted a page break. Is there any
difference in this situation between using a Page break, or a Column break
(when working with one column)?

  #3  
Old June 21st, 2004, 10:16 AM
Stefan Blom
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Default Page Break vs Column Break

Isn't the difference simply that a column break starts to act like a
column break (that is, breaks to the next column) if you ever change
the number of columns to two or more?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I've observed (and wondered) the same thing. Although they are

functionally
the same in this case, I think I would use a page break if that's

what's
called for, rather than a column break, just because the latter

might be
confusing--to you, to Word, and especially to anyone else who might

later
have to work with your document.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"DreAndre" wrote in message
...
I've noticed that when I use Column break in a section with only

one
column, it performs as if I've inserted a page break. Is there any
difference in this situation between using a Page break, or a Column

break
(when working with one column)?






  #4  
Old June 21st, 2004, 02:46 PM
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Page Break vs Column Break

This would be my assumption, yes, and for that reason I suppose it would be
appropriate to use a column break instead of a page break if the document
was likely to later be reformatted into columns, but then I avoid both page
breaks *and* column breaks wherever possible.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Isn't the difference simply that a column break starts to act like a
column break (that is, breaks to the next column) if you ever change
the number of columns to two or more?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I've observed (and wondered) the same thing. Although they are

functionally
the same in this case, I think I would use a page break if that's

what's
called for, rather than a column break, just because the latter

might be
confusing--to you, to Word, and especially to anyone else who might

later
have to work with your document.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"DreAndre" wrote in message
...
I've noticed that when I use Column break in a section with only

one
column, it performs as if I've inserted a page break. Is there any
difference in this situation between using a Page break, or a Column

break
(when working with one column)?







  #5  
Old June 22nd, 2004, 09:56 AM
Stefan Blom
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Default Page Break vs Column Break

You're right, of course, that you shouldn't use page or column breaks
to control text flow. Instead, you should use options such as "Keep
with next".

The only kind of break that is sometimes required (except for
paragraph breaks, of course!) is a section break.

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
This would be my assumption, yes, and for that reason I suppose it

would be
appropriate to use a column break instead of a page break if the

document
was likely to later be reformatted into columns, but then I avoid

both page
breaks *and* column breaks wherever possible.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Isn't the difference simply that a column break starts to act like

a
column break (that is, breaks to the next column) if you ever

change
the number of columns to two or more?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I've observed (and wondered) the same thing. Although they are

functionally
the same in this case, I think I would use a page break if

that's
what's
called for, rather than a column break, just because the latter

might be
confusing--to you, to Word, and especially to anyone else who

might
later
have to work with your document.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"DreAndre" wrote in message
...
I've noticed that when I use Column break in a section with

only
one
column, it performs as if I've inserted a page break. Is there

any
difference in this situation between using a Page break, or a

Column
break
(when working with one column)?












  #6  
Old June 22nd, 2004, 01:41 PM
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Page Break vs Column Break

That said, I *do* use page and column breaks judiciously. In documents where
it is not necessary for a Heading 1 to begin a section, it does often start
a new page, so I format it as "Page break before." And I use column breaks
to keep material segregated in a four-column newsletter that gets filled
piecemeal as I acquire the content. I've also encountered a few puzzling
cases where a section break to balance columns still mysteriously doesn't.
Rather than waste (more) time troubleshooting the issue, I "get the work out
the door" by inserting a column break as needed.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
You're right, of course, that you shouldn't use page or column breaks
to control text flow. Instead, you should use options such as "Keep
with next".

The only kind of break that is sometimes required (except for
paragraph breaks, of course!) is a section break.

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
This would be my assumption, yes, and for that reason I suppose it

would be
appropriate to use a column break instead of a page break if the

document
was likely to later be reformatted into columns, but then I avoid

both page
breaks *and* column breaks wherever possible.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Isn't the difference simply that a column break starts to act like

a
column break (that is, breaks to the next column) if you ever

change
the number of columns to two or more?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I've observed (and wondered) the same thing. Although they are
functionally
the same in this case, I think I would use a page break if

that's
what's
called for, rather than a column break, just because the latter
might be
confusing--to you, to Word, and especially to anyone else who

might
later
have to work with your document.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"DreAndre" wrote in message
...
I've noticed that when I use Column break in a section with

only
one
column, it performs as if I've inserted a page break. Is there

any
difference in this situation between using a Page break, or a

Column
break
(when working with one column)?













  #7  
Old June 23rd, 2004, 12:52 PM
Stefan Blom
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Default Page Break vs Column Break

No rule without an exception, I guess.

As for "Page break before", I'd have to say the following: I find the
difference between using "Page break before" and inserting a manual
page break so fundamental that I usually don't really think of "Page
break before" as (a way to insert) a page break, but as something far
more powerful. The reason is of course that "Page break before" is
tied to a certain paragraph or paragraph style rather than to a
position in the text.

Whether "Page break before" page breaks and manual page breaks are
also represented differently in the file structure is another
question. If they are not, one might hope that the same could be
accomplished with section breaks. Wouldn't that be useful: including
section breaks with paragraph styles?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
That said, I *do* use page and column breaks judiciously. In

documents where
it is not necessary for a Heading 1 to begin a section, it does

often start
a new page, so I format it as "Page break before." And I use column

breaks
to keep material segregated in a four-column newsletter that gets

filled
piecemeal as I acquire the content. I've also encountered a few

puzzling
cases where a section break to balance columns still mysteriously

doesn't.
Rather than waste (more) time troubleshooting the issue, I "get the

work out
the door" by inserting a column break as needed.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
You're right, of course, that you shouldn't use page or column

breaks
to control text flow. Instead, you should use options such as

"Keep
with next".

The only kind of break that is sometimes required (except for
paragraph breaks, of course!) is a section break.

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
This would be my assumption, yes, and for that reason I suppose

it
would be
appropriate to use a column break instead of a page break if the

document
was likely to later be reformatted into columns, but then I

avoid
both page
breaks *and* column breaks wherever possible.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Isn't the difference simply that a column break starts to act

like
a
column break (that is, breaks to the next column) if you ever

change
the number of columns to two or more?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I've observed (and wondered) the same thing. Although they

are
functionally
the same in this case, I think I would use a page break if

that's
what's
called for, rather than a column break, just because the

latter
might be
confusing--to you, to Word, and especially to anyone else

who
might
later
have to work with your document.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to

the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"DreAndre" wrote in

message
...
I've noticed that when I use Column break in a section

with
only
one
column, it performs as if I've inserted a page break. Is

there
any
difference in this situation between using a Page break, or

a
Column
break
(when working with one column)?




























  #8  
Old June 23rd, 2004, 01:48 PM
Margaret Aldis
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Default Page Break vs Column Break

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Wouldn't that be useful: including
section breaks with paragraph styles?


Couldn't be a section break as such, because that would control the
formatting of the section *before* the heading - imagine the posts there'd
be then g. Trying to make it control existing section formatting would be
even worse, I suspect. I'd love to be able to say a Heading 1 should start
on an odd page, though.

--
Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP
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  #9  
Old June 23rd, 2004, 02:02 PM
Stefan Blom
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Default Page Break vs Column Break

"Margaret Aldis" wrote:
Couldn't be a section break as such, because that would control the
formatting of the section *before* the heading - imagine the posts

there'd
be then g. Trying to make it control existing section formatting

would be
even worse, I suspect. I'd love to be able to say a Heading 1 should

start
on an odd page, though.


I didn't think of the fact that a section break stores the formatting
of the previous section. I certainly see that would cause trouble!

Thank you for pointing this out.

Stefan Blom




 




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