Hyperlinks from PowerPoint Viewer 2003

I've created a presentation that hyperlinks to bookmarked pages within a
U.S. Government website (namely, the Copyright Office site). The hyperlinks
work perfectly, from the Slide Show mode of my full version of Power Point
2003. However, when I click on the hyperlinks from within Viewer 2003, they
do not work properly, in two respects:

1. I get a "hyperlinks may be viruses. . ." warning -- a warning I do not
get with my full version of Power Point 2003, even though my Security Level
is set on High.

2. The hyperlinks do not take me to the bookmarked portion of the
website -- even though they do take me to the bookmarked portion of the
site, when I use the full version of Power Point 2003.

These two problems are serious for me, because I hope to distribute my
presentation on CD-ROM, using Power Point 2003's "Package for CD" feature
that puts Viewer 2003 on the CD. If, however, I can't work around these
problems, the "Package for CD" feature is virtually useless to me.

Is there any way to work around either (or better yet, both) of these
problems?

Thanks,

-Lon Sobel

Lionel S. Sobel
Professor & Director of UK Summer Abroad Program
Southwestern University School of Law

"Lon" wrote in message
news:M8std.1269$4E6.161@trnddc06...
I've created a presentation that hyperlinks to bookmarked pages within a
U.S. Government website (namely, the Copyright Office site). The
hyperlinks
work perfectly, from the Slide Show mode of my full version of Power Point
2003. However, when I click on the hyperlinks from within Viewer 2003,
they
do not work properly, in two respects:

1. I get a "hyperlinks may be viruses. . ." warning -- a warning I do
not
get with my full version of Power Point 2003, even though my Security
Level
is set on High.

Nothing you can do about this one in a distributed presentation. On your
computer, you can run Chirag's utility to turn this off, but -- unless you
want your users to run this utility -- there's nothing you can do on other
systems. It's an MS security mandate thing. (And no, I don't like it,
either.) http://officeone.mvps.org/download/h...k_warning.html for
Chirag's utility.

Actually, on second thought, it's odd that you're not seeing this on PPT
itself, but you are on the Viewer. How did you set up your links?

2. The hyperlinks do not take me to the bookmarked portion of the
website -- even though they do take me to the bookmarked portion of the
site, when I use the full version of Power Point 2003.

Sorry, I don't know about this one. Hopefully someone else will. They'll
want to know how you set up your links here, too, though.

These two problems are serious for me, because I hope to distribute my
presentation on CD-ROM, using Power Point 2003's "Package for CD" feature
that puts Viewer 2003 on the CD. If, however, I can't work around these
problems, the "Package for CD" feature is virtually useless to me.

Is there any way to work around either (or better yet, both) of these
problems?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

For item #2, what happens? Do you see the hand icon when you hover over the
links? Are you linking text or are you creating an object like a button, etc.
and linking to it? Does the object have a fill applied?
--

Sonia Coleman
Microsoft PowerPoint MVP Team
Autorun Software, Templates and Tutorials

"Echo S" wrote in message
...
"Lon" wrote in message
news:M8std.1269$4E6.161@trnddc06...
I've created a presentation that hyperlinks to bookmarked pages within a
U.S. Government website (namely, the Copyright Office site). The
hyperlinks
work perfectly, from the Slide Show mode of my full version of Power Point
2003. However, when I click on the hyperlinks from within Viewer 2003,
they
do not work properly, in two respects:

1. I get a "hyperlinks may be viruses. . ." warning -- a warning I do
not
get with my full version of Power Point 2003, even though my Security
Level
is set on High.

Nothing you can do about this one in a distributed presentation. On your
computer, you can run Chirag's utility to turn this off, but -- unless you
want your users to run this utility -- there's nothing you can do on other
systems. It's an MS security mandate thing. (And no, I don't like it,
either.) http://officeone.mvps.org/download/h...k_warning.html for
Chirag's utility.

Actually, on second thought, it's odd that you're not seeing this on PPT
itself, but you are on the Viewer. How did you set up your links?

2. The hyperlinks do not take me to the bookmarked portion of the
website -- even though they do take me to the bookmarked portion of the
site, when I use the full version of Power Point 2003.

Sorry, I don't know about this one. Hopefully someone else will. They'll
want to know how you set up your links here, too, though.

These two problems are serious for me, because I hope to distribute my
presentation on CD-ROM, using Power Point 2003's "Package for CD" feature
that puts Viewer 2003 on the CD. If, however, I can't work around these
problems, the "Package for CD" feature is virtually useless to me.

Is there any way to work around either (or better yet, both) of these
problems?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

Item #2 is a text link. In the full version of PPt 2003, the link takes me
directly to the bookmarked part of the linked-to page. However, in the
Viewer 2003, that same link takes me to the top of the web page, rather than
to the bookmarked paragraph.

The reason this matters is that I'm linking to specific sections of the
Copyright Act. At the Copyright Office website, each "Chapter" of the
Copyright Act is a long, single web page, which has a bookmark for each
individual section within the Chapter.

For example, Chapter 2 of the Copyright Act consists of sections 201 through
205. In the full version of PPt, my link to section 204 takes me directly to
that section (which is almost at the bottom of the web page), while in
Viewer, my link takes me to the top of the webpage.

Thanks for your help.

"Sonia" wrote in message
...
For item #2, what happens? Do you see the hand icon when you hover over
the links? Are you linking text or are you creating an object like a
button, etc. and linking to it? Does the object have a fill applied?
--

Sonia Coleman
Microsoft PowerPoint MVP Team
Autorun Software, Templates and Tutorials

"Echo S" wrote in message
...
"Lon" wrote in message
news:M8std.1269$4E6.161@trnddc06...
I've created a presentation that hyperlinks to bookmarked pages within a
U.S. Government website (namely, the Copyright Office site). The
hyperlinks
work perfectly, from the Slide Show mode of my full version of Power
Point
2003. However, when I click on the hyperlinks from within Viewer 2003,
they
do not work properly, in two respects:

1. I get a "hyperlinks may be viruses. . ." warning -- a warning I do
not
get with my full version of Power Point 2003, even though my Security
Level
is set on High.

Nothing you can do about this one in a distributed presentation. On your
computer, you can run Chirag's utility to turn this off, but -- unless
you
want your users to run this utility -- there's nothing you can do on
other
systems. It's an MS security mandate thing. (And no, I don't like it,
either.) http://officeone.mvps.org/download/h...k_warning.html for
Chirag's utility.

Actually, on second thought, it's odd that you're not seeing this on PPT
itself, but you are on the Viewer. How did you set up your links?

2. The hyperlinks do not take me to the bookmarked portion of the
website -- even though they do take me to the bookmarked portion of the
site, when I use the full version of Power Point 2003.

Sorry, I don't know about this one. Hopefully someone else will. They'll
want to know how you set up your links here, too, though.

These two problems are serious for me, because I hope to distribute my
presentation on CD-ROM, using Power Point 2003's "Package for CD"
feature
that puts Viewer 2003 on the CD. If, however, I can't work around these
problems, the "Package for CD" feature is virtually useless to me.

Is there any way to work around either (or better yet, both) of these
problems?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

My links are text links. They're not linking to executables. They're linking
to pages of a U.S. Government-run website (the Copyright Office) which are
ordinary html pages.

"Echo S" wrote in message
...
"Lon" wrote in message
news:M8std.1269$4E6.161@trnddc06...
I've created a presentation that hyperlinks to bookmarked pages within a
U.S. Government website (namely, the Copyright Office site). The
hyperlinks
work perfectly, from the Slide Show mode of my full version of Power
Point
2003. However, when I click on the hyperlinks from within Viewer 2003,
they
do not work properly, in two respects:

1. I get a "hyperlinks may be viruses. . ." warning -- a warning I do
not
get with my full version of Power Point 2003, even though my Security
Level
is set on High.

Nothing you can do about this one in a distributed presentation. On your
computer, you can run Chirag's utility to turn this off, but -- unless you
want your users to run this utility -- there's nothing you can do on other
systems. It's an MS security mandate thing. (And no, I don't like it,
either.) http://officeone.mvps.org/download/h...k_warning.html for
Chirag's utility.

Actually, on second thought, it's odd that you're not seeing this on PPT
itself, but you are on the Viewer. How did you set up your links?

2. The hyperlinks do not take me to the bookmarked portion of the
website -- even though they do take me to the bookmarked portion of the
site, when I use the full version of Power Point 2003.

Sorry, I don't know about this one. Hopefully someone else will. They'll
want to know how you set up your links here, too, though.

These two problems are serious for me, because I hope to distribute my
presentation on CD-ROM, using Power Point 2003's "Package for CD" feature
that puts Viewer 2003 on the CD. If, however, I can't work around these
problems, the "Package for CD" feature is virtually useless to me.

Is there any way to work around either (or better yet, both) of these
problems?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

Okay. The issue is the PowerPoint 2003 Viewer. If you use the PowerPoint 97
Viewer your links will work. You can find a product that will do what Package
for CD does at http://www.soniacoleman.com/Tutorial...oint/acdpc.htm and we
have a Viewer Converter for those who need to use the PowerPoint 97 Viewer. Or,
if you want to do it yourself manually, see
http://www.echosvoice.com/autoruncd.htm.

Either way, one thing I notice is that if the user has a browser window open
when the link is clicked, the browser window will be behind the presentation and
not visible. You'll need to tell users to close each browser window after they
finish reading the info on the web page (click on the "X" in the upper right
corner.)


"Lon" wrote in message
news:d7ttd.4583$2U2.3692@trnddc01...
Item #2 is a text link. In the full version of PPt 2003, the link takes me
directly to the bookmarked part of the linked-to page. However, in the Viewer
2003, that same link takes me to the top of the web page, rather than to the
bookmarked paragraph.

The reason this matters is that I'm linking to specific sections of the
Copyright Act. At the Copyright Office website, each "Chapter" of the
Copyright Act is a long, single web page, which has a bookmark for each
individual section within the Chapter.

For example, Chapter 2 of the Copyright Act consists of sections 201 through
205. In the full version of PPt, my link to section 204 takes me directly to
that section (which is almost at the bottom of the web page), while in Viewer,
my link takes me to the top of the webpage.

Thanks for your help.

"Sonia" wrote in message
...
For item #2, what happens? Do you see the hand icon when you hover over the
links? Are you linking text or are you creating an object like a button,
etc. and linking to it? Does the object have a fill applied?
--

Sonia Coleman
Microsoft PowerPoint MVP Team
Autorun Software, Templates and Tutorials

"Echo S" wrote in message
...
"Lon" wrote in message
news:M8std.1269$4E6.161@trnddc06...
I've created a presentation that hyperlinks to bookmarked pages within a
U.S. Government website (namely, the Copyright Office site). The
hyperlinks
work perfectly, from the Slide Show mode of my full version of Power Point
2003. However, when I click on the hyperlinks from within Viewer 2003,
they
do not work properly, in two respects:

1. I get a "hyperlinks may be viruses. . ." warning -- a warning I do
not
get with my full version of Power Point 2003, even though my Security
Level
is set on High.

Nothing you can do about this one in a distributed presentation. On your
computer, you can run Chirag's utility to turn this off, but -- unless you
want your users to run this utility -- there's nothing you can do on other
systems. It's an MS security mandate thing. (And no, I don't like it,
either.) http://officeone.mvps.org/download/h...k_warning.html for
Chirag's utility.

Actually, on second thought, it's odd that you're not seeing this on PPT
itself, but you are on the Viewer. How did you set up your links?

2. The hyperlinks do not take me to the bookmarked portion of the
website -- even though they do take me to the bookmarked portion of the
site, when I use the full version of Power Point 2003.

Sorry, I don't know about this one. Hopefully someone else will. They'll
want to know how you set up your links here, too, though.

These two problems are serious for me, because I hope to distribute my
presentation on CD-ROM, using Power Point 2003's "Package for CD" feature
that puts Viewer 2003 on the CD. If, however, I can't work around these
problems, the "Package for CD" feature is virtually useless to me.

Is there any way to work around either (or better yet, both) of these
problems?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

Thanks, Sonia!

Apparently, newer versions aren't always better than older versions. They're
just different.

-Lon

"Sonia" wrote in message
...
Okay. The issue is the PowerPoint 2003 Viewer. If you use the PowerPoint
97 Viewer your links will work. You can find a product that will do what
Package for CD does at
http://www.soniacoleman.com/Tutorial...oint/acdpc.htm and we have a
Viewer Converter for those who need to use the PowerPoint 97 Viewer. Or,
if you want to do it yourself manually, see
http://www.echosvoice.com/autoruncd.htm.

Either way, one thing I notice is that if the user has a browser window
open when the link is clicked, the browser window will be behind the
presentation and not visible. You'll need to tell users to close each
browser window after they finish reading the info on the web page (click
on the "X" in the upper right corner.)


"Lon" wrote in message
news:d7ttd.4583$2U2.3692@trnddc01...
Item #2 is a text link. In the full version of PPt 2003, the link takes
me directly to the bookmarked part of the linked-to page. However, in the
Viewer 2003, that same link takes me to the top of the web page, rather
than to the bookmarked paragraph.

The reason this matters is that I'm linking to specific sections of the
Copyright Act. At the Copyright Office website, each "Chapter" of the
Copyright Act is a long, single web page, which has a bookmark for each
individual section within the Chapter.

For example, Chapter 2 of the Copyright Act consists of sections 201
through 205. In the full version of PPt, my link to section 204 takes me
directly to that section (which is almost at the bottom of the web page),
while in Viewer, my link takes me to the top of the webpage.

Thanks for your help.

"Sonia" wrote in message
...
For item #2, what happens? Do you see the hand icon when you hover over
the links? Are you linking text or are you creating an object like a
button, etc. and linking to it? Does the object have a fill applied?
--

Sonia Coleman
Microsoft PowerPoint MVP Team
Autorun Software, Templates and Tutorials

"Echo S" wrote in message
...
"Lon" wrote in message
news:M8std.1269$4E6.161@trnddc06...
I've created a presentation that hyperlinks to bookmarked pages within
a
U.S. Government website (namely, the Copyright Office site). The
hyperlinks
work perfectly, from the Slide Show mode of my full version of Power
Point
2003. However, when I click on the hyperlinks from within Viewer 2003,
they
do not work properly, in two respects:

1. I get a "hyperlinks may be viruses. . ." warning -- a warning I
do
not
get with my full version of Power Point 2003, even though my Security
Level
is set on High.

Nothing you can do about this one in a distributed presentation. On
your
computer, you can run Chirag's utility to turn this off, but -- unless
you
want your users to run this utility -- there's nothing you can do on
other
systems. It's an MS security mandate thing. (And no, I don't like it,
either.) http://officeone.mvps.org/download/h...k_warning.html for
Chirag's utility.

Actually, on second thought, it's odd that you're not seeing this on
PPT
itself, but you are on the Viewer. How did you set up your links?

2. The hyperlinks do not take me to the bookmarked portion of the
website -- even though they do take me to the bookmarked portion of
the
site, when I use the full version of Power Point 2003.

Sorry, I don't know about this one. Hopefully someone else will.
They'll
want to know how you set up your links here, too, though.

These two problems are serious for me, because I hope to distribute my
presentation on CD-ROM, using Power Point 2003's "Package for CD"
feature
that puts Viewer 2003 on the CD. If, however, I can't work around
these
problems, the "Package for CD" feature is virtually useless to me.

Is there any way to work around either (or better yet, both) of these
problems?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

Apparently, newer versions aren't always better than older versions. They're
just different.

Hey, at least the bugs are New! and Improved!

Steve,

Yes, you're right. And when I posted my comment that "newer versions aren't
always better," I had the same good-natured attitude that I read into your
post.

Now, though, I'm feeling real frustration with Viewers. The 2003 version can
do some things the 97 version can't, and the 97 version can do some things
the 2003 version can't. Why were some Viewer 97 functions taken out of
Viewer 2003?

Here's my current dilemma:

I have a 200-slide "presentation." I put quotes around "presentation"
because it's really a legal analysis tool for users to run from their own
individual computers, not a presentation that I would make in front of a
group. Each slide is linked to others and many slides are linked to
websites. There are literally hundreds and hundreds of links in the
"presentation," all of which work exactly as intended in my full version of
PPt 2003.

Viewer 2003 is unsatisfactory for two reasons:
1. It produces a virus warning each and every time a website link is
clicked, even though the website is a U.S. government, standard issue html
site.
2. It does not recognize bookmarks in the linked to web pages.
On the other hand, Viewer 2003 does recognize and respond to all types of
hyperlinks, including hyperlinked arrows that I use (quite a bit) for
navigation purposes.

Viewer 97 is better than Viewer 2003 in two respects:
1. It does not produce virus warnings when website links are clicked.
2. It does recognize bookmarks in the linked to web pages.
But . . . Viewer 97 does not recognize or respond to the hyperlinks I
attached to arrows. The arrows are just dead, as though no hyperlinks had
been attached to them at all.

So, I'm wondering whether you or anyone in this newsgroup has:
1. a solution to my problem, or
2. knowledge of a superior PowerPoint viewer created by someone other
than Microsoft that deals with these problems.

I love Power Point, but Microsoft's failure to provide a Viewer that has all
the viewing functionality of the full program means that Power Point is
simply a presentation program -- not an authoring or publishing program.
(I'm not asking for the ability to create presentations for free, just to
view them the same way they appear in the full program.)

-Lon

"Steve Rindsberg" wrote in message
...
Apparently, newer versions aren't always better than older versions.
They're
just different.

Hey, at least the bugs are New! and Improved!

Lon,

Yes, you're right. And when I posted my comment that "newer versions aren't
always better," I had the same good-natured attitude that I read into your
post.

We read each other right. ;-)

Now, though, I'm feeling real frustration with Viewers.

You're not alone.

Viewer 97 is better than Viewer 2003 in two respects:
1. It does not produce virus warnings when website links are clicked.
2. It does recognize bookmarks in the linked to web pages.
But . . . Viewer 97 does not recognize or respond to the hyperlinks I
attached to arrows. The arrows are just dead, as though no hyperlinks had
been attached to them at all.

This set off an interesting burst of quality playtime here. It seems that
Viewer97 does recognize hyperlinks attached to arrows, but only if the arrows
are at least the tiniest bit off horizontal or vertical.

Another trick is to draw another shape atop the arrow, assign it the hyperlink,
then give it no fill, no outline so it's invisible. It still works as a link,
at least in the 97 Viewer. Only the outline will behave as a link in the 2003
viewer (but of course there it warns you of the evil things that will befall
you if you click on it. And casts out the named destination.)

So, I'm wondering whether you or anyone in this newsgroup has:
1. a solution to my problem, or
2. knowledge of a superior PowerPoint viewer created by someone other
than Microsoft that deals with these problems.

Saving as MHT (Single-file HTML) preserves the named destinations and works
even with horizontal/vertical arrows. But only the outlines of
unfilled/unoutlined shapes are live as links.

If you don't need animation and want to consider using HTML and a browser
instead of PPT files, have a look at our PPT2HTML add-in
(http://html.pptools.com). It handles everything we've discussed so far well
except for perfectly vertical/horizontal arrows and lines. How do you like
that, you've discovered a bug in software you've never even heard of. ;-)

I think I can fix that one fairly simply.


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Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
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