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Update - Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Community
What is Happening? This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin discontinuing newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums. Why? As you may know, newsgroups have existed for many years now; however, the traffic in the Microsoft newsgroups has been steadily decreasing for the past several years while customers and participants are increasingly finding solutions in the forums on Microsoft properties and third party sites. This move will unify the customer experience, centralize content, make it easier for active contributors to retain their influence, mitigate redundancies and make the content easier to find by customers and search engines through improved indexing. Additionally, forums offer a better user and spam management platform that will improve customer satisfaction by encouraging a healthy discussion in a clean community space. To this end, Microsoft will begin to progressively shift available resources to the forums technology and discontinue support for newsgroups. In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for those users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to participate in the newsgroups community, we have developed a solution called the NNTP Bridge which allows a user to connect a variety of supported NNTP readers to the forums they would like to participate in and continue having the NTTP reader functionality. You can find instructions on how to download and set up the NNTP Bridge he http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/ Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown? All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1, 2010 and October 1, 2010. Microsoft will be closing newsgroups in a phased approach, starting with the least active newsgroups and moving eventually to more active ones throughout the course of the next six months. Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup? In an effort to enhance and improve your experience, this newsgroup is scheduled for closure in the upcoming months and we would like to invite you to participate in this forum or forum category: http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...addbuz/threads . An exact date will be posted in advance as plans are finalized. Should you want to visit the Microsoft Forums, please go to http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.mspx Who Should I Contact with any Questions? Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing to |
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Update - Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Community
Can anybody see where there is a real Access section in the "forum"
From what I can (at first look) see there isn't. Seems like just the usual Microsoft style - vague spotty mess - just tips on Access 2007. Maybe their "third party sites" is the direction. First leave Microsoft for the info, then migrate to Open Office. |
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Update - Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Community
I can't agree with you more Fred. Their site is a mess. See my reply to
their cross-posting at the "Forms" group http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...8-b4f7ebe187fd MS is messing this one up IMHO! Did they not ever consider speaking with the users? They are just dropping this into place without even doing a first round of testing to solve evident problems?! As you said "Maybe their "third party sites" is the direction" to take. Just a mess! -- Daniel Pineault http://www.cardaconsultants.com/ For Access Tips and Examples: http://www.devhut.net Please rate this post using the vote buttons if it was helpful. "Fred" wrote: Can anybody see where there is a real Access section in the "forum" From what I can (at first look) see there isn't. Seems like just the usual Microsoft style - vague spotty mess - just tips on Access 2007. Maybe their "third party sites" is the direction. First leave Microsoft for the info, then migrate to Open Office. |
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Update - Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Community
Where exactly are the MS Access 'forum's. I just spent 30 minutes looking for
it. Got several javascript runtime errors in the web pages - and I'm using Internet Explorer! -- Dorian "Give someone a fish and they eat for a day; teach someone to fish and they eat for a lifetime". " wrote: What is Happening? This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin discontinuing newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums. Why? As you may know, newsgroups have existed for many years now; however, the traffic in the Microsoft newsgroups has been steadily decreasing for the past several years while customers and participants are increasingly finding solutions in the forums on Microsoft properties and third party sites. This move will unify the customer experience, centralize content, make it easier for active contributors to retain their influence, mitigate redundancies and make the content easier to find by customers and search engines through improved indexing. Additionally, forums offer a better user and spam management platform that will improve customer satisfaction by encouraging a healthy discussion in a clean community space. To this end, Microsoft will begin to progressively shift available resources to the forums technology and discontinue support for newsgroups. In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for those users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to participate in the newsgroups community, we have developed a solution called the NNTP Bridge which allows a user to connect a variety of supported NNTP readers to the forums they would like to participate in and continue having the NTTP reader functionality. You can find instructions on how to download and set up the NNTP Bridge he http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/ Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown? All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1, 2010 and October 1, 2010. Microsoft will be closing newsgroups in a phased approach, starting with the least active newsgroups and moving eventually to more active ones throughout the course of the next six months. Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup? In an effort to enhance and improve your experience, this newsgroup is scheduled for closure in the upcoming months and we would like to invite you to participate in this forum or forum category: http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...addbuz/threads . An exact date will be posted in advance as plans are finalized. Should you want to visit the Microsoft Forums, please go to http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.mspx Who Should I Contact with any Questions? Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing to . |
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Update - Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Community
Maybe they moved the "customer non-input" folks who planned Vista over to
"plan" this. Per the long time Microsoft motto: "If it ain't broke, break it" |
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Update - Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Community
On Mon, 10 May 2010 08:30:01 -0700, Dorian
wrote: Where exactly are the MS Access 'forum's. I just spent 30 minutes looking for it. Got several javascript runtime errors in the web pages - and I'm using Internet Explorer! Is this where you were looking? http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...addbuz/threads You can see why some of us are a bit upset. -- John W. Vinson [MVP] |
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Update - Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Community
"Fred" wrote in message ... Can anybody see where there is a real Access section in the "forum" From what I can (at first look) see there isn't. Seems like just the usual Microsoft style - vague spotty mess - just tips on Access 2007. Maybe their "third party sites" is the direction. First leave Microsoft for the info, then migrate to Open Office. Yes, that is pretty much my opinion. While these groups are open, I'm happy to drop by and return some of the benefit I got from these groups 15 years ago. When these groups are gone, I guess so am I. I will miss the politeness and the helpfulness of the long time contributors like Tony -- there is nothing like that anywhere on news.gmane.org -- so I'm not likely to spend much time with the arrogant self-important vanity of any Open Source groups. (david) |
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Update - Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Community
It must be that the Progressives have gotten control at MS just as
they have in two of the three branches of the US government. All on their own they decide what is best for the universe and our roles within it and then dictate to us what will transpire without the option.! These Access mewsgrps are a terrific source of help to Access developers at all levels and have been for a long, long time. I believe that they have contributed more to Access's dominance in the marketplace than MS or anyone else acknowledges. Don't despair. It doesn't require the support of Microsoft to have newsgroups that support Access or any other interest. If there are sufficient people who want to make it real then there is no bar to continuing them. In the early days there was a tremendous spirit of contribution. Many of the pioneers have gone on to establish and support their own web sites and many of them still drop in to contribute here. -- -Larry- -- "John W. Vinson" wrote in message ... On Mon, 10 May 2010 08:30:01 -0700, Dorian wrote: Where exactly are the MS Access 'forum's. I just spent 30 minutes looking for it. Got several javascript runtime errors in the web pages - and I'm using Internet Explorer! Is this where you were looking? http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...addbuz/threads You can see why some of us are a bit upset. -- John W. Vinson [MVP] |
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Update - Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Community
Maybe we could discuss here picking one of them and then everybody urge
everybody to switch to it. Give it the critical mass to become a/the main Access one. My vote would be to find one that also has at least a tiny bit on Open Office DB and very low low end SQL server. |
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Update - Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Community
Maybe we should discuss and pick one of those groups for everybody to
recommend to everybody. That might give it the critical mass to become the replacement for this (for Access) My vote would be for one that has at least covers Open Office DB and low end SQL server a bit. |
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