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Word 2007 not working like Word 2003
I realize this is an older post but I have just got Word 2007 installed on my
computer at work (July 2008). There are quite a few issues I have with it but really my main problem is working with templates created in a Word 2003 program that includes headers and footers created within the template. My text jumps around and prints wrong, etc. You can literally watch the text drop on the screen. I understand the concept of this being a program that is not user friendly for people who really work with Word on a daily basis, all day. It is just not good. It is hard to find people with the same problems who have posted as well. Hope your issues turned out okay, Bill. "Bill" wrote: We are having enormous problems with Word 2007. We are running XP Pro with all updates and service packs. Office 2007 was installed last Friday (15/12/06). Apart from all the other issues about 'ribbons' (which we believe Microsoft has made a terrible design blunder with this), we are having a nightmare producing our normal daily reports in Word. In Word 2003 we created a landscape orientated document each morning with 2 pages, and chose different odd and even for our headers ((This is now far too long winded in Word 2007 and we continue to not be able to find the commands we are looking for)). Once we have done this we insert a Wordart header into the new blank header template and format it (this is also now very clumsy compared to what it used to be). This is then followed by inserting an object from a file e.g. an Excel spreadsheet with a block of data and a chart on the worksheet page. In the past this has come across as a single object and then we resized it as required to fit onto the Word page. This, apparently no longer works whether you are doing it as word/excel (doc/xls) or word/excel (docx/xlsx files). The only way to do this is a very long winded copy each object, paste special and choose either the Excel workbook or the Excel graphic. How can this be considered an increase in productivity? We believe Office 2007 will be rejected by most people. Some of the new features are okay (except the ribbon), the frustrations, learning curve (and cost behind that) are far too excessive to justify the change. It is a well known fact in our industry that every other version of Office is the way to go. Office 2000 was superb, we skipped XP and moved to 2003 which has been a real workhorse - short on lots of functionality but very stable and usable. Looks like Office 2007 has fallen into the 'skip one cycle'. The comments that we have been reading about Office 2007 from the pros all seem to suggest that it has been redesigned to suit the non-power user - make it easier for those who only use it sparingly - why is that - surely Microsoft need to cater for the people who are demanding and power users as they use the product the most. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ic.office.misc |
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Word 2007 not working like Word 2003
Bob,
Please advise on the step when you click INSERT CHART and select chart type. The error message : "Close dialogue boxes and CANCEL EDITING MODE OF EXCEL" No dialogue boxes open; would EXCEL 2003 be causing this? Fishmidi "Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote: Hi Bill, Yes, Word 2007's interface is certainly a bit different If I understand your scenario correctly, In Word 2007 as with Word 2003 you can create a template to use that would be landscape oriented and include your default header and footers so that you wouldn't need to start over each day. It appears that from your description you may be doing this manually each time? If so, then steps in Word 2007 would be something along the lines of 1. Start a new Word document in Page Layout view. 2. Click Page Layout, Orientation, select Landscape. 3. In the document double click in the top margin area to switch to header/footer view (or use Insert=Header). 4. While in the header check the 'Different Odd & Even Pages' box in the the Options group of the Header and Footer Tools=/Design\ ribbon that should appear when you entered the Header. 5. While in the Header, choose Insert=WordArt, which brings up the same gallery as in Word 2003. 6. To return to the document area, double click in the document below the 'Header' line that appears on screen. 7. For the method you described of inserting an object from File, I'm not clear on your process (i.e. inserting from a file rather than Insert=Object) but Insert=Object=Object will still bring up the old dialog for selecting the spreadsheet, as one approach. The Charting 'engine' was rewritten for Office 2007 and is shared between the apps. The data table is still part of the chart but is set to not display as a default. You may want to try this approach to start to see if this is the result you're looking to achieve? a. Insert=Chart b. Select Chart Template style. c. Excel launches with sample data similar to Word 2003's. d. Edit the data as needed, the chart in Word should show the changes as you go. e. Close Excel. f. Select the chart in Word and note the Chart Tools tab above the ribbon. g. Under the Chart Tools tab select Layout=Labels=Data Table=Show Data Table If the difference in your daily report in Word are the numbers rather than the look, you can save the chart as part of the Word template, start your new document from that each day, and modify the figures in the chart from inside of Word. For finding the commmands, if you use shortcut keys in Word 2003, many of the older ctrl+ and FKey ones are still the same in Word 2007 as are a number of the Alt+ keys to navigate the menus. For example, Alt,V,H will take you to Word 2003's View=Heasder/Footer menu equivalent in Word 2007. If you go to Help in Word 2007 and type in the search term of old keyboard commands either in offline or online Word 2007 help, one of the first listings that comes up should be for using the Word 2003 key shortcuts (now called 'access keys' in Word 2007 for the Alt commands and still keyboard shortcuts for the others. ================ "Bill" wrote: We are having enormous problems with Word 2007. We are running XP Pro with all updates and service packs. Office 2007 was installed last Friday (15/12/06). Apart from all the other issues about 'ribbons' (which we believe Microsoft has made a terrible design blunder with this), we are having a nightmare producing our normal daily reports in Word. In Word 2003 we created a landscape orientated document each morning with 2 pages, and chose different odd and even for our headers ((This is now far too long winded in Word 2007 and we continue to not be able to find the commands we are looking for)). Once we have done this we insert a Wordart header into the new blank header template and format it (this is also now very clumsy compared to what it used to be). This is then followed by inserting an object from a file e.g. an Excel spreadsheet with a block of data and a chart on the worksheet page. In the past this has come across as a single object and then we resized it as required to fit onto the Word page. This, apparently no longer works whether you are doing it as word/excel (doc/xls) or word/excel (docx/xlsx files). The only way to do this is a very long winded copy each object, paste special and choose either the Excel workbook or the Excel graphic. How can this be considered an increase in productivity? We believe Office 2007 will be rejected by most people. Some of the new features are okay (except the ribbon), the frustrations, learning curve (and cost behind that) are far too excessive to justify the change. It is a well known fact in our industry that every other version of Office is the way to go. Office 2000 was superb, we skipped XP and moved to 2003 which has been a real workhorse - short on lots of functionality but very stable and usable. Looks like Office 2007 has fallen into the 'skip one cycle'. The comments that we have been reading about Office 2007 from the pros all seem to suggest that it has been redesigned to suit the non-power user - make it easier for those who only use it sparingly - why is that - surely Microsoft need to cater for the people who are demanding and power users as they use the product the most. |
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Word 2007 not working like Word 2003
Office 2007 was installed last Friday (15/12/06). Apart from all the other issues
about 'ribbons' (which we You are posting to a 4yr old post and asking a question which is next to impossible to follow with all the old copies of post that you inserted . -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "Fishmidi" wrote in message ... Bob, Please advise on the step when you click INSERT CHART and select chart type. The error message : "Close dialogue boxes and CANCEL EDITING MODE OF EXCEL" No dialogue boxes open; would EXCEL 2003 be causing this? Fishmidi "Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote: Hi Bill, Yes, Word 2007's interface is certainly a bit different If I understand your scenario correctly, In Word 2007 as with Word 2003 you can create a template to use that would be landscape oriented and include your default header and footers so that you wouldn't need to start over each day. It appears that from your description you may be doing this manually each time? If so, then steps in Word 2007 would be something along the lines of 1. Start a new Word document in Page Layout view. 2. Click Page Layout, Orientation, select Landscape. 3. In the document double click in the top margin area to switch to header/footer view (or use Insert=Header). 4. While in the header check the 'Different Odd & Even Pages' box in the the Options group of the Header and Footer Tools=/Design\ ribbon that should appear when you entered the Header. 5. While in the Header, choose Insert=WordArt, which brings up the same gallery as in Word 2003. 6. To return to the document area, double click in the document below the 'Header' line that appears on screen. 7. For the method you described of inserting an object from File, I'm not clear on your process (i.e. inserting from a file rather than Insert=Object) but Insert=Object=Object will still bring up the old dialog for selecting the spreadsheet, as one approach. The Charting 'engine' was rewritten for Office 2007 and is shared between the apps. The data table is still part of the chart but is set to not display as a default. You may want to try this approach to start to see if this is the result you're looking to achieve? a. Insert=Chart b. Select Chart Template style. c. Excel launches with sample data similar to Word 2003's. d. Edit the data as needed, the chart in Word should show the changes as you go. e. Close Excel. f. Select the chart in Word and note the Chart Tools tab above the ribbon. g. Under the Chart Tools tab select Layout=Labels=Data Table=Show Data Table If the difference in your daily report in Word are the numbers rather than the look, you can save the chart as part of the Word template, start your new document from that each day, and modify the figures in the chart from inside of Word. For finding the commmands, if you use shortcut keys in Word 2003, many of the older ctrl+ and FKey ones are still the same in Word 2007 as are a number of the Alt+ keys to navigate the menus. For example, Alt,V,H will take you to Word 2003's View=Heasder/Footer menu equivalent in Word 2007. If you go to Help in Word 2007 and type in the search term of old keyboard commands either in offline or online Word 2007 help, one of the first listings that comes up should be for using the Word 2003 key shortcuts (now called 'access keys' in Word 2007 for the Alt commands and still keyboard shortcuts for the others. ================ "Bill" wrote: We are having enormous problems with Word 2007. We are running XP Pro with all updates and service packs. Office 2007 was installed last Friday (15/12/06). Apart from all the other issues about 'ribbons' (which we believe Microsoft has made a terrible design blunder with this), we are having a nightmare producing our normal daily reports in Word. In Word 2003 we created a landscape orientated document each morning with 2 pages, and chose different odd and even for our headers ((This is now far too long winded in Word 2007 and we continue to not be able to find the commands we are looking for)). Once we have done this we insert a Wordart header into the new blank header template and format it (this is also now very clumsy compared to what it used to be). This is then followed by inserting an object from a file e.g. an Excel spreadsheet with a block of data and a chart on the worksheet page. In the past this has come across as a single object and then we resized it as required to fit onto the Word page. This, apparently no longer works whether you are doing it as word/excel (doc/xls) or word/excel (docx/xlsx files). The only way to do this is a very long winded copy each object, paste special and choose either the Excel workbook or the Excel graphic. How can this be considered an increase in productivity? We believe Office 2007 will be rejected by most people. Some of the new features are okay (except the ribbon), the frustrations, learning curve (and cost behind that) are far too excessive to justify the change. It is a well known fact in our industry that every other version of Office is the way to go. Office 2000 was superb, we skipped XP and moved to 2003 which has been a real workhorse - short on lots of functionality but very stable and usable. Looks like Office 2007 has fallen into the 'skip one cycle'. The comments that we have been reading about Office 2007 from the pros all seem to suggest that it has been redesigned to suit the non-power user - make it easier for those who only use it sparingly - why is that - surely Microsoft need to cater for the people who are demanding and power users as they use the product the most. |
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