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Old May 4th, 2004, 11:53 PM
KG
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Help!
I am trying to create a Flyer and the paper I am printing
is already colored. I wanted to print some white text,
however, when I go to print, the white is clear and my
paper color comes through. Also, I have a picture of a
house on the file and where the sidewalk is I can see
nothing but my background. Anybody know how to get
around this issue?

Thanks
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Old May 5th, 2004, 12:09 AM
JL Paules
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Most consumer desktop printers do not have white ink. If this is what you
*really* want, check with a commercial printer and see if they can help you.

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"KG" wrote in message
...
Help!
I am trying to create a Flyer and the paper I am printing
is already colored. I wanted to print some white text,
however, when I go to print, the white is clear and my
paper color comes through. Also, I have a picture of a
house on the file and where the sidewalk is I can see
nothing but my background. Anybody know how to get
around this issue?

Thanks



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Old May 5th, 2004, 01:52 AM
°°°MS°Publisher°°°
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Not presently possible on a desktop printer.

A pale shade of a colour is the only alternative.

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any road will take you there!"


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Old May 5th, 2004, 01:56 AM
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KG wrote:
Help!
I am trying to create a Flyer and the paper I am printing
is already colored. I wanted to print some white text,
however, when I go to print, the white is clear and my
paper color comes through. Also, I have a picture of a
house on the file and where the sidewalk is I can see
nothing but my background. Anybody know how to get
around this issue?

Thanks


Oh not this old chestnut again! Do you mean to say you've never done any
physics at all - ever?! This is elementary school stuff!

OK, here we go again - and /do/ pay attention.

Primary colours of light - Red, Green and Blue (your monitor uses these
three colours)
Primary colours of pigment - Red (Magenta), Yellow and Blue (Cyan) (your
printer)

Light mixes by subtraction - R - G - B = White
Pigments mix by addition - M + Y + C = Black

It is interesting to note that Magenta, Yellow and Cyan are actually the
/secondary/ colours of light, indicating that pigments aren't pure.

Red - Green = Yellow
Green - Blue = Cyan
Blue - Red = Magenta
Red - Green - Blue = White

So, to answer your question, you cannot print white because white isn't a
colour, it's the absence of colour. Black is the absorption of colour - mix
M, Y and C together and you have black.

Please note that Red, Green and Blue are the true primary colours. The
primaries used in art (or in this case printing) only act as primaries
because the pigments aren't pure.

There are some printers (dye sub (short for subtraction)) that will print
white, but they're not cheap.

The reason your printer cannot print white is because white is the absence
of colour, therefore it sees 'white' as 'transparent' if you like, and
prints nothing.

This is the last word I'm going to say on the matter. The next person who
posts this question will simply be referred to Google.


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Old May 5th, 2004, 02:04 AM
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What is 'Google'???

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Old May 5th, 2004, 02:59 AM
Steve in NC
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Cerri...

What if you had like an acid ink thingey. Then if you choose "white" it
would use the acid "ink" and just bleach out the paper... cool huh?

Feel free to pass it on at the next request to "print white"

lurk on



Cerridwen wrote:

KG wrote:

Help!
I am trying to create a Flyer and the paper I am printing
is already colored. I wanted to print some white text,
however, when I go to print, the white is clear and my
paper color comes through. Also, I have a picture of a
house on the file and where the sidewalk is I can see
nothing but my background. Anybody know how to get
around this issue?

Thanks



Oh not this old chestnut again! Do you mean to say you've never done any
physics at all - ever?! This is elementary school stuff!

OK, here we go again - and /do/ pay attention.

Primary colours of light - Red, Green and Blue (your monitor uses these
three colours)
Primary colours of pigment - Red (Magenta), Yellow and Blue (Cyan) (your
printer)

Light mixes by subtraction - R - G - B = White
Pigments mix by addition - M + Y + C = Black

It is interesting to note that Magenta, Yellow and Cyan are actually the
/secondary/ colours of light, indicating that pigments aren't pure.

Red - Green = Yellow
Green - Blue = Cyan
Blue - Red = Magenta
Red - Green - Blue = White

So, to answer your question, you cannot print white because white isn't a
colour, it's the absence of colour. Black is the absorption of colour - mix
M, Y and C together and you have black.

Please note that Red, Green and Blue are the true primary colours. The
primaries used in art (or in this case printing) only act as primaries
because the pigments aren't pure.

There are some printers (dye sub (short for subtraction)) that will print
white, but they're not cheap.

The reason your printer cannot print white is because white is the absence
of colour, therefore it sees 'white' as 'transparent' if you like, and
prints nothing.

This is the last word I'm going to say on the matter. The next person who
posts this question will simply be referred to Google.



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Old May 5th, 2004, 10:30 PM
Cerridwen
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Steve in NC wrote:
Cerri...

What if you had like an acid ink thingey. Then if you choose "white"
it would use the acid "ink" and just bleach out the paper... cool huh?

Feel free to pass it on at the next request to "print white"

lurk on



Steven, don't be a pedant...It would eat *THROUGH* the paper! :-)



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Old May 5th, 2004, 10:50 PM
RSD99
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Sara ... you definitely need to do some more studying on your basic color theory, you've
got quite a few errors in your posting.

Oh ... and additionally, your statement
"...There are some printers (dye sub (short for subtraction)) ..."

Is "just slightly" off.

The 'sub' is short for sublimation.

It's a chemical term meaning to transform directly from the solid to the gaseous state or
from the gaseous to the solid state without becoming a liquid.

This is the process that is used to deposit the color medium(s) in "Dye Sub" printers. And
.... oh yes ... it *is* possible to print white. All you need is white ink (probably
created using either titanium dioxide or magnesium dioxide as the primary colorant).





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Old May 5th, 2004, 11:05 PM
Cerridwen
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RSD99 wrote:
Sara ... you definitely need to do some more studying on your basic
color theory, you've got quite a few errors in your posting.

Oh ... and additionally, your statement
"...There are some printers (dye sub (short for subtraction)) ..."

Is "just slightly" off.

The 'sub' is short for sublimation.

It's a chemical term meaning to transform directly from the solid to
the gaseous state or from the gaseous to the solid state without
becoming a liquid.

This is the process that is used to deposit the color medium(s) in
"Dye Sub" printers. And ... oh yes ... it *is* possible to print
white. All you need is white ink (probably created using either
titanium dioxide or magnesium dioxide as the primary colorant).


Good point. My bad. And I do believe my name had a 'h' on the end... ;o)

That's one - it's hardly "quite a few". I have studied physics to high
school diploma level.


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Old May 5th, 2004, 11:10 PM
Ed Bennett
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A small child turns to Ed, and exclaims: "Look! Look! A post from
Cerridwen !"...
Steven, don't be a pedant...It would eat *THROUGH* the paper! :-)


Not if it was a weak acid.
But it would stain, rather than bleach.
Alkaline ink, OTOH...

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