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Paragraph spacing background color
Just a follow-up:
I have updated the article “Table cell shading – white space – troubleshooting” found at http://www.thedoctools.com/index.php...t_cell_shading. The article now includes information about cell shading problems caused by paragraph borders. -- Regards Lene Fredborg - Microsoft MVP (Word) DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Thanks for the additional testing, Lene. I'd forgotten about your exhaustive article about white space, but this will certainly be a good addition to it. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Lene Fredborg" wrote in message ... In the article “Table cell shading – white space – troubleshooting” found at http://www.thedoctools.com/index.php...t_cell_shading, I have described different types of settings that result in white space in table cells. The border problem is not among the ones I have described (I think I should add it to the article) – I don’t think I have tried using a bordered style in a table so I have not seen the problem until I read this thread. I made some testing and found the results described below (same result in Word 2003 and 2007). I also consider the white spacing a bug. As the description below shows, not only the combination of space before/after and paragraph border(s) matters – the number of lines and/or paragraphs may also affect the result (I have not tested and described all possible combinations). As you said, Suzanne, the solution to this problem is to remove the border(s). My test results: In a table cell with cell (or table) shading, if you apply a style with space before and after + border(s) to text as specified below, white space will appear as follows: Ex. 1A. Style with border below, paragraph with 1 line of text: Space before appears as white space. Space after appears as white space. Ex. 1B. Style with border below, paragraph with 2 or more lines of text or more than 1 paragraph: Space before is shaded correctly. Space after appears as white space. Ex. 2A. Style with border above, paragraph with 1 line of text: Space before appears as white space. Space after appears as white space. Ex. 2B. Style with border above, paragraph with 2 or more lines of text or more than 1 paragraph: Space before appears as white space. Space after is shaded correctly. Ex. 3. Style with border above and below, paragraph with 1 or more lines of text: Space before appears as white space. Space after appears as white space. Ex 4A: Style with left border, paragraph with 1 or more _lines_ of text: Space before is shaded correctly. Space after is shaded correctly. Ex 4B: Style with left border, 2 or more _paragraphs_: Space before is shaded correctly. Space after appears as white space Ex 5A: Style with right border, paragraph with 1 line of text: Space before appears as white space Space after appears as white space -- Regards Lene Fredborg - Microsoft MVP (Word) DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The border is the entire cause of the issue. Remove the border, and you can add Space Before/After to your heart's content. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Drew" wrote in message ... ok, i see now I was able to edit the Title style, use the spacing (which initially gave me the spacing) and then removed the border (which made the spacing go away). So I agree with you. this is a bug. Even if it was outside the border, and I would expect it to be, it shouldn't color it white. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: This is an entirely different issue. The Title style has a border (not an underline), and Spacing Above/Below on bordered styles is always outside the border. Moreover, in Word 2003 this affects Spacing Above even when there is only a bottom border. I do consider this a bug, but, as a workaround, instead of a border for the style, you could either use an underline or apply a border to the cell. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Drew" wrote in message ... Nope... but good try I'm actually using styles to do this. And it's simple to repro: 1. Create a new word doc 2. on the Insert tab, create a table with at least one cell 3. set the background of that cell to some color (e.g. beige) 4. Type some sample text in the box 5. Set the style of that text to "Title". this will create an underline, big text, colored blue, with spacing beneath it. 6. Observe the white bar that appears below the text. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: It would appear that you have applied the shading to the text rather than to the cell. Try again, making sure that "Cell" rather than "Text" is selected under "Apply to." -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Drew" wrote in message ... I'm using tables in my word document and one of the cells has a background color. Inside that cell I'm using a style that has paragraph spacing before and after the text. The problem is that when it creates this spacing, it's always white. So I have these white bands above and below the text due to my background color in that cell. Is paragraph spacing useless on anything other than white or is there a way to make this transluscent? or even make it the same as my background color? Thanks! |
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Paragraph spacing background color
Thanks, Lene.
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Lene Fredborg" wrote in message ... Just a follow-up: I have updated the article “Table cell shading – white space – troubleshooting” found at http://www.thedoctools.com/index.php...t_cell_shading. The article now includes information about cell shading problems caused by paragraph borders. -- Regards Lene Fredborg - Microsoft MVP (Word) DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Thanks for the additional testing, Lene. I'd forgotten about your exhaustive article about white space, but this will certainly be a good addition to it. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Lene Fredborg" wrote in message ... In the article “Table cell shading – white space – troubleshooting” found at http://www.thedoctools.com/index.php...t_cell_shading, I have described different types of settings that result in white space in table cells. The border problem is not among the ones I have described (I think I should add it to the article) – I don’t think I have tried using a bordered style in a table so I have not seen the problem until I read this thread. I made some testing and found the results described below (same result in Word 2003 and 2007). I also consider the white spacing a bug. As the description below shows, not only the combination of space before/after and paragraph border(s) matters – the number of lines and/or paragraphs may also affect the result (I have not tested and described all possible combinations). As you said, Suzanne, the solution to this problem is to remove the border(s). My test results: In a table cell with cell (or table) shading, if you apply a style with space before and after + border(s) to text as specified below, white space will appear as follows: Ex. 1A. Style with border below, paragraph with 1 line of text: Space before appears as white space. Space after appears as white space. Ex. 1B. Style with border below, paragraph with 2 or more lines of text or more than 1 paragraph: Space before is shaded correctly. Space after appears as white space. Ex. 2A. Style with border above, paragraph with 1 line of text: Space before appears as white space. Space after appears as white space. Ex. 2B. Style with border above, paragraph with 2 or more lines of text or more than 1 paragraph: Space before appears as white space. Space after is shaded correctly. Ex. 3. Style with border above and below, paragraph with 1 or more lines of text: Space before appears as white space. Space after appears as white space. Ex 4A: Style with left border, paragraph with 1 or more _lines_ of text: Space before is shaded correctly. Space after is shaded correctly. Ex 4B: Style with left border, 2 or more _paragraphs_: Space before is shaded correctly. Space after appears as white space Ex 5A: Style with right border, paragraph with 1 line of text: Space before appears as white space Space after appears as white space -- Regards Lene Fredborg - Microsoft MVP (Word) DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The border is the entire cause of the issue. Remove the border, and you can add Space Before/After to your heart's content. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Drew" wrote in message ... ok, i see now I was able to edit the Title style, use the spacing (which initially gave me the spacing) and then removed the border (which made the spacing go away). So I agree with you. this is a bug. Even if it was outside the border, and I would expect it to be, it shouldn't color it white. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: This is an entirely different issue. The Title style has a border (not an underline), and Spacing Above/Below on bordered styles is always outside the border. Moreover, in Word 2003 this affects Spacing Above even when there is only a bottom border. I do consider this a bug, but, as a workaround, instead of a border for the style, you could either use an underline or apply a border to the cell. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Drew" wrote in message ... Nope... but good try I'm actually using styles to do this. And it's simple to repro: 1. Create a new word doc 2. on the Insert tab, create a table with at least one cell 3. set the background of that cell to some color (e.g. beige) 4. Type some sample text in the box 5. Set the style of that text to "Title". this will create an underline, big text, colored blue, with spacing beneath it. 6. Observe the white bar that appears below the text. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: It would appear that you have applied the shading to the text rather than to the cell. Try again, making sure that "Cell" rather than "Text" is selected under "Apply to." -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Drew" wrote in message ... I'm using tables in my word document and one of the cells has a background color. Inside that cell I'm using a style that has paragraph spacing before and after the text. The problem is that when it creates this spacing, it's always white. So I have these white bands above and below the text due to my background color in that cell. Is paragraph spacing useless on anything other than white or is there a way to make this transluscent? or even make it the same as my background color? Thanks! |
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