Say "NO" to Windows Office - Try OpenOffice

The reason we are here is to learn from and contribute to the Office group, fully implement our software that we have invested in and then make money from $ spent.
Basic investment concept for home or office user.
OO/Star Office users etc, are now learning that you cannot always work for "free".....

ROTFL!!

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.

"Toby Ridge" wrote in message
...
| Why is this woman telling us about linux and her smartsuite. I couldn't
care
| less and she should refrain from posting on this newsgroup her experiences
of
| fringe packages. she knows it well (or ought to know it) that this is a
MS
| hosted newsgroup dealing with Ms' products.
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|
| Um, this is a forum to get assistance with Microsoft Office, not OO.o or
| Star Office. If you want to extol their virtues, then post in a place
| appropriate to the product being extolled.
|
| This is not one of them.
|
| I use OO.o on my Linux machine (Mandrake 9.x) and find it severely
lacking
| from my expectations of what an office suite should be. Even my old
Lotus
| SmartSuite (1999?) does things a LOT better than that program. It has a
| LONG way to go for anyone who does more than prepare a simple document
or
| uses a simple list in a spreadsheet.
|
| And, as I said, the lack of a PIM is a major drawback. Put in a hook to
| Evolution (probably not possible now that Novell owns it) and you might
| approach 25% of the functionality already existing in Microsoft Office
97.
|
| --�
| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
|
| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
| account will be deleted without reading.
|
| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Patriot asked:
|
| | While the Microsoft public boards may not be the most apropos area to
| | put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is no troll. I continually
| | recommend and make it available to many occasional, home and light
| | office users.
| |
| | The MS renditions remain quite clutzy and over loaded with junk even
| | after years of work. Using financial leverage to replace innovation
| | and serving customer needs is the accepted norm.
| |
| | Over pricing and scant regard for program integrity and security is
| | to be expected and the reasons are quite clear when dealing with MS.
| | After a few conversations with their professional support people one
| | wonders what went wrong.
| |
| | So while I am forced to use many MS products I am also quite aware of
| | the laggardly incorporation of the quality design we should be able
| | to expect from the worlds software leader but probably will never get.
| |
| | OpenOffice is indeed a very legitament alternative to those who wish
| | not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| | their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| | totally in line to indicate there are other options available to them.
| |
| | Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
| |
| | Thank you
| |
| | Patriot
| |
| |
| |
| |
| | "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| | wrote in message
| | ...
| || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
| ||
| || Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
| || functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
| || power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
| ||
| || Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are happy to get assistance
| || with something that actually works as advertised.
| ||
| ||
| || --�
| || Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
| ||
| || Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
| || the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
| || personal account will be deleted without reading.
| ||
| || After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
| || asked:
| ||
| ||| Hi,
| |||
| ||| I know I am off the subject but Windows Office is just soo expensive
| ||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view or write a presentation.
| ||| In Europe the simple office version to an end-user is ? 500 ($600).
| ||| The lisence agreement that companies have to pay per user in their
| ||| company is way out and companies need to judge, analyse and implent
| ||| a cheaper solution.
| ||| There's one alternative which makes live cheaper www.openoffice.org.
| |||
| ||| I downloaded this version and it's just great to use.
| ||| It is only when you start using this open-sourced office version,
| ||| you see that those MS Office mechanism you aquired throughout the
| ||| years
| ||| are a bit a pain to implement but if you stick to it(like I did), it
| ||| will eventually avoid paying those bucks to MS.
| ||| No need to pirate it, it's for FREE!!!!!
| ||| If you have programming skills, modify it to suit you or your
| ||| company.
| |||
| |||
| ||| I would like to have your comments, if you have tried to use
| ||| openoffice or why you haven't tried it, yet or why do you continue
| ||| to pay when you can get the same for free.
| |||
| ||| Niax
|
|

I believe that is a result of expecting someone else to do all of your
thinking for you. Rather returning to the learning curve issue where you
actually have to put some effort into the project to expect anything to
happen in a productive manner.

I will continue to use MS business related products and just as astudiously
help others with less demanding needs utilize the more practical and
economical alternatives.

I am still wondering why the complaints on learning OO. I have provided at
least 250 copies of it to folks who are pleased to have it made available
and quite at ease with using it.

Thank you

Patriot


"Chris Schatte" wrote in message
...
The reason we are here is to learn from and contribute to the Office
group, fully implement our software that we have invested in and then make
money from $ spent.
Basic investment concept for home or office user.
OO/Star Office users etc, are now learning that you cannot always work for
"free".....

Nick Dougan wrote:

This woman (Milly) has seriously lost her marbles! First she started to tell somebody
off for discussing Open Office but then she continued to elaborate on her bedroom habits
such as Lotus position and what not. Thank god she didn't discuss position 69!

Now she wants to use the F word in her cryptic ROTFL. Is she so lonely that she
has to antagonise users of this newsgroup?


ROTFL is a Usenet abbreviation (acronym?) for Rolling On The Floor Laughing.



"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

ROTFL!!

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.

"Toby Ridge" wrote in message
...
| Why is this woman telling us about linux and her smartsuite. I couldn't
care
| less and she should refrain from posting on this newsgroup her experiences
of
| fringe packages. she knows it well (or ought to know it) that this is a
MS
| hosted newsgroup dealing with Ms' products.
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|
| Um, this is a forum to get assistance with Microsoft Office, not OO.o or
| Star Office. If you want to extol their virtues, then post in a place
| appropriate to the product being extolled.
|
| This is not one of them.
|
| I use OO.o on my Linux machine (Mandrake 9.x) and find it severely
lacking
| from my expectations of what an office suite should be. Even my old
Lotus
| SmartSuite (1999?) does things a LOT better than that program. It has a
| LONG way to go for anyone who does more than prepare a simple document
or
| uses a simple list in a spreadsheet.
|
| And, as I said, the lack of a PIM is a major drawback. Put in a hook to
| Evolution (probably not possible now that Novell owns it) and you might
| approach 25% of the functionality already existing in Microsoft Office
97.
|
| --�
| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
|
| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
| account will be deleted without reading.
|
| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Patriot asked:
|
| | While the Microsoft public boards may not be the most apropos area to
| | put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is no troll. I continually
| | recommend and make it available to many occasional, home and light
| | office users.
| |
| | The MS renditions remain quite clutzy and over loaded with junk even
| | after years of work. Using financial leverage to replace innovation
| | and serving customer needs is the accepted norm.
| |
| | Over pricing and scant regard for program integrity and security is
| | to be expected and the reasons are quite clear when dealing with MS.
| | After a few conversations with their professional support people one
| | wonders what went wrong.
| |
| | So while I am forced to use many MS products I am also quite aware of
| | the laggardly incorporation of the quality design we should be able
| | to expect from the worlds software leader but probably will never get.
| |
| | OpenOffice is indeed a very legitament alternative to those who wish
| | not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| | their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| | totally in line to indicate there are other options available to them.
| |
| | Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
| |
| | Thank you
| |
| | Patriot
| |
| |
| |
| |
| | "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| | wrote in message
| | ...
| || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
| ||
| || Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
| || functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
| || power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
| ||
| || Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are happy to get assistance
| || with something that actually works as advertised.
| ||
| ||
| || --�
| || Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
| ||
| || Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
| || the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
| || personal account will be deleted without reading.
| ||
| || After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
| || asked:
| ||
| ||| Hi,
| |||
| ||| I know I am off the subject but Windows Office is just soo expensive
| ||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view or write a presentation.
| ||| In Europe the simple office version to an end-user is ? 500 ($600).
| ||| The lisence agreement that companies have to pay per user in their
| ||| company is way out and companies need to judge, analyse and implent
| ||| a cheaper solution.
| ||| There's one alternative which makes live cheaper www.openoffice.org.
| |||
| ||| I downloaded this version and it's just great to use.
| ||| It is only when you start using this open-sourced office version,
| ||| you see that those MS Office mechanism you aquired throughout the
| ||| years
| ||| are a bit a pain to implement but if you stick to it(like I did), it
| ||| will eventually avoid paying those bucks to MS.
| ||| No need to pirate it, it's for FREE!!!!!
| ||| If you have programming skills, modify it to suit you or your
| ||| company.
| |||
| |||
| ||| I would like to have your comments, if you have tried to use
| ||| openoffice or why you haven't tried it, yet or why do you continue
| ||| to pay when you can get the same for free.
| |||
| ||| Niax
|
|

This woman (Milly) has seriously lost her marbles! First she started to tell somebody
off for discussing Open Office but then she continued to elaborate on her bedroom habits
such as Lotus position and what not. Thank god she didn't discuss position 69!

Now she wants to use the F word in her cryptic ROTFL. Is she so lonely that she
has to antagonise users of this newsgroup?



"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

ROTFL!!

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.

"Toby Ridge" wrote in message
...
| Why is this woman telling us about linux and her smartsuite. I couldn't
care
| less and she should refrain from posting on this newsgroup her experiences
of
| fringe packages. she knows it well (or ought to know it) that this is a
MS
| hosted newsgroup dealing with Ms' products.
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|
| Um, this is a forum to get assistance with Microsoft Office, not OO.o or
| Star Office. If you want to extol their virtues, then post in a place
| appropriate to the product being extolled.
|
| This is not one of them.
|
| I use OO.o on my Linux machine (Mandrake 9.x) and find it severely
lacking
| from my expectations of what an office suite should be. Even my old
Lotus
| SmartSuite (1999?) does things a LOT better than that program. It has a
| LONG way to go for anyone who does more than prepare a simple document
or
| uses a simple list in a spreadsheet.
|
| And, as I said, the lack of a PIM is a major drawback. Put in a hook to
| Evolution (probably not possible now that Novell owns it) and you might
| approach 25% of the functionality already existing in Microsoft Office
97.
|
| --�
| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
|
| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
| account will be deleted without reading.
|
| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Patriot asked:
|
| | While the Microsoft public boards may not be the most apropos area to
| | put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is no troll. I continually
| | recommend and make it available to many occasional, home and light
| | office users.
| |
| | The MS renditions remain quite clutzy and over loaded with junk even
| | after years of work. Using financial leverage to replace innovation
| | and serving customer needs is the accepted norm.
| |
| | Over pricing and scant regard for program integrity and security is
| | to be expected and the reasons are quite clear when dealing with MS.
| | After a few conversations with their professional support people one
| | wonders what went wrong.
| |
| | So while I am forced to use many MS products I am also quite aware of
| | the laggardly incorporation of the quality design we should be able
| | to expect from the worlds software leader but probably will never get.
| |
| | OpenOffice is indeed a very legitament alternative to those who wish
| | not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| | their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| | totally in line to indicate there are other options available to them.
| |
| | Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
| |
| | Thank you
| |
| | Patriot
| |
| |
| |
| |
| | "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| | wrote in message
| | ...
| || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
| ||
| || Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
| || functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
| || power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
| ||
| || Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are happy to get assistance
| || with something that actually works as advertised.
| ||
| ||
| || --�
| || Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
| ||
| || Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
| || the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
| || personal account will be deleted without reading.
| ||
| || After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
| || asked:
| ||
| ||| Hi,
| |||
| ||| I know I am off the subject but Windows Office is just soo expensive
| ||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view or write a presentation.
| ||| In Europe the simple office version to an end-user is ? 500 ($600).
| ||| The lisence agreement that companies have to pay per user in their
| ||| company is way out and companies need to judge, analyse and implent
| ||| a cheaper solution.
| ||| There's one alternative which makes live cheaper www.openoffice.org.
| |||
| ||| I downloaded this version and it's just great to use.
| ||| It is only when you start using this open-sourced office version,
| ||| you see that those MS Office mechanism you aquired throughout the
| ||| years
| ||| are a bit a pain to implement but if you stick to it(like I did), it
| ||| will eventually avoid paying those bucks to MS.
| ||| No need to pirate it, it's for FREE!!!!!
| ||| If you have programming skills, modify it to suit you or your
| ||| company.
| |||
| |||
| ||| I would like to have your comments, if you have tried to use
| ||| openoffice or why you haven't tried it, yet or why do you continue
| ||| to pay when you can get the same for free.
| |||
| ||| Niax
|
|

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote in message ...
Um, this is a forum to get assistance with Microsoft Office, not OO.o or
Star Office. If you want to extol their virtues, then post in a place
appropriate to the product being extolled.

This is not one of them.

I understand your reaction but I wanted to have this groups opinion.
At the office I use the MS Office Pack and don't deny that these
programs are good.

I use OO.o on my Linux machine (Mandrake 9.x) and find it severely lacking
from my expectations of what an office suite should be. Even my old Lotus
SmartSuite (1999?) does things a LOT better than that program. It has a
LONG way to go for anyone who does more than prepare a simple document or
uses a simple list in a spreadsheet.

And, as I said, the lack of a PIM is a major drawback. Put in a hook to
Evolution (probably not possible now that Novell owns it) and you might
approach 25% of the functionality already existing in Microsoft Office 97.

I understand your reaction but I wanted to have this groups opinion.
At the office I use the MS Office Pack and don't deny that these
programs are good but you


--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Patriot asked:

| While the Microsoft public boards may not be the most apropos area to
| put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is no troll. I continually
| recommend and make it available to many occasional, home and light
| office users.
|
| The MS renditions remain quite clutzy and over loaded with junk even
| after years of work. Using financial leverage to replace innovation
| and serving customer needs is the accepted norm.
|
| Over pricing and scant regard for program integrity and security is
| to be expected and the reasons are quite clear when dealing with MS.
| After a few conversations with their professional support people one
| wonders what went wrong.
|
| So while I am forced to use many MS products I am also quite aware of
| the laggardly incorporation of the quality design we should be able
| to expect from the worlds software leader but probably will never get.
|
| OpenOffice is indeed a very legitament alternative to those who wish
| not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| totally in line to indicate there are other options available to them.
|
| Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
|
| Thank you
|
| Patriot
|
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| wrote in message
| ...
|| Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
||
|| Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
|| functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
|| power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
||
|| Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are happy to get assistance
|| with something that actually works as advertised.
||
||
|| --�
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
|| asked:
||
||| Hi,
|||
||| I know I am off the subject but Windows Office is just soo expensive
||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view or write a presentation.
||| In Europe the simple office version to an end-user is ? 500 ($600).
||| The lisence agreement that companies have to pay per user in their
||| company is way out and companies need to judge, analyse and implent
||| a cheaper solution.
||| There's one alternative which makes live cheaper www.openoffice.org.
|||
||| I downloaded this version and it's just great to use.
||| It is only when you start using this open-sourced office version,
||| you see that those MS Office mechanism you aquired throughout the
||| years
||| are a bit a pain to implement but if you stick to it(like I did), it
||| will eventually avoid paying those bucks to MS.
||| No need to pirate it, it's for FREE!!!!!
||| If you have programming skills, modify it to suit you or your
||| company.
|||
|||
||| I would like to have your comments, if you have tried to use
||| openoffice or why you haven't tried it, yet or why do you continue
||| to pay when you can get the same for free.
|||
||| Niax

"Patriot" wrote in message ...
This was my point and I knew that I was of the subject but where better to ask?
That's what discussion groups are all about.
I just put some fresh yellow flowers in a dusty room.

PS
I am not a woman

Sorry, OO is not being "stooged" for power users but for those who need
basic office tools at a price that is just plain okay. I thoroughly support
helping someone who for whatever reason does not wish to or can not obtain
and utilized the high powered and gawdy MS creations.

Making these priced right programs available to those who would use them is
only common decency and will not cause lay offs at MS or create any
financial havoc to their organization.

When I recently came on the scene this Milly person was making an issue of a
person attempting to assist by offering the info and then belittleing the
merits of OO.

Perhaps she needs another weekend that isn't quite so "bad" precluding
propensity to mouth off at a person's attempt to help someone else.

We realize this is an MS topic board and accord it all the immense awe,
adoration and respectability it demands. However, I do not believe a boundry
is drawn which precludes a simple statement offering an alternative to
someone.

Thank you

Patriot


"Mercury" wrote in message
...
It seems you are the one who is attempting to put someone down, while you
are stooging for OpenOffice. It is really not very good, and lacks most of
the features power users need and want.


"Patriot" wrote in message
...
It's just Milly in yet another attempt to put someone or something down.
Her
postings are of most value when ignored. Blames it on a bad week end.

She rather resents, in this instance, the recommendation of OO for the
lesser demanding users yet extolls virtue of some other non MS program
and
rambles on about some other somewhat obscure OS. It appears she is even
hung
up on Office 97 too.

Patriot


"Toby Ridge" wrote in message
...
Why is this woman telling us about linux and her smartsuite. I
couldn't
care
less and she should refrain from posting on this newsgroup her
experiences
of
fringe packages. she knows it well (or ought to know it) that this is
a
MS
hosted newsgroup dealing with Ms' products.



"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

Um, this is a forum to get assistance with Microsoft Office, not
OO.o
or
Star Office. If you want to extol their virtues, then post in a
place
appropriate to the product being extolled.

This is not one of them.

I use OO.o on my Linux machine (Mandrake 9.x) and find it severely
lacking
from my expectations of what an office suite should be. Even my old
Lotus
SmartSuite (1999?) does things a LOT better than that program. It
has
a
LONG way to go for anyone who does more than prepare a simple
document
or
uses a simple list in a spreadsheet.

And, as I said, the lack of a PIM is a major drawback. Put in a
hook
to
Evolution (probably not possible now that Novell owns it) and you
might
approach 25% of the functionality already existing in Microsoft
Office
97.

--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Patriot
asked:

| While the Microsoft public boards may not be the most apropos area
to
| put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is no troll. I
continually
| recommend and make it available to many occasional, home and light
| office users.
|
| The MS renditions remain quite clutzy and over loaded with junk
even
| after years of work. Using financial leverage to replace
innovation
| and serving customer needs is the accepted norm.
|
| Over pricing and scant regard for program integrity and security
is
| to be expected and the reasons are quite clear when dealing with
MS.
| After a few conversations with their professional support people
one
| wonders what went wrong.
|
| So while I am forced to use many MS products I am also quite aware
of
| the laggardly incorporation of the quality design we should be
able
| to expect from the worlds software leader but probably will never
get.
|
| OpenOffice is indeed a very legitament alternative to those who
wish
| not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| totally in line to indicate there are other options available to
them.
|
| Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
|
| Thank you
|
| Patriot
|
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| wrote in message
| ...
|| Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
||
|| Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
|| functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
|| power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
||
|| Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are happy to get
assistance
|| with something that actually works as advertised.
||
||
|| --�
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due
to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
|| asked:
||
||| Hi,
|||
||| I know I am off the subject but Windows Office is just soo
expensive
||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view or write a
presentation.
||| In Europe the simple office version to an end-user is ? 500
($600).
||| The lisence agreement that companies have to pay per user in
their
||| company is way out and companies need to judge, analyse and
implent
||| a cheaper solution.
||| There's one alternative which makes live cheaper
www.openoffice.org.
|||
||| I downloaded this version and it's just great to use.
||| It is only when you start using this open-sourced office
version,
||| you see that those MS Office mechanism you aquired throughout
the
||| years
||| are a bit a pain to implement but if you stick to it(like I
did),
it
||| will eventually avoid paying those bucks to MS.
||| No need to pirate it, it's for FREE!!!!!
||| If you have programming skills, modify it to suit you or your
||| company.
|||
|||
||| I would like to have your comments, if you have tried to use
||| openoffice or why you haven't tried it, yet or why do you
continue
||| to pay when you can get the same for free.
|||
||| Niax

Patriot,
"I believe that is a result of expecting someone else to do all of your
thinking for you. Rather returning to the learning curve issue where you
actually have to put some effort into the project to expect anything to
happen in a productive manner."
Very presumptuous of you since you know nothing about our business beyond postings on this group....

Your busines is really of no concern or interest to this group. The fact
that many find the alternative products to be of good value and service is
the point here.

Most of us here support MS by using their products which, regardless of
dubious content, design and cost effectiveness at times, are the business
norm.

My offices enteract daily with folks using many "lesser" products without
interuption or concern. One person I communicate with regularly uses nothing
more than a replica of MS Notepad and every work is spelled correctly and
every "i" is dotted.

Effort, mastering the learning curve, support, and determination to make
things work without handholding and kind words..........

Thank you

Patriot
"Chris Schatte" wrote in message
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Patriot,
"I believe that is a result of expecting someone else to do all of your
thinking for you. Rather returning to the learning curve issue where you
actually have to put some effort into the project to expect anything to
happen in a productive manner."
Very presumptuous of you since you know nothing about our business beyond
postings on this group....

"Your busines is really of no concern or interest to this group."
True, but couldn't the same be said about the non-Microsoft product you are promoting?