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Document switch to become Read-Only when it's not suppose to
I still haven't found a solution to the problem. Next time I'll just shut
off my antivirus and see what happens for a few days during class sessions. It also happens when I'm at home too [sigh]. Once, because of this problem of Read-Only, I accidently SAVE AS to another class notes and lost the other class notes. I guess I have to get use to SAVE AS and Read-Only problem from now on, or just uninstall this and go back to Microsoft Word XP. |
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Document switch to become Read-Only when it's not suppose to
I have the same problem too. i am using office 2007 in Win XP Pro enviroment.
When i first click "save" it is ok, but when i click "save" second times (sometimes third times or so), it becomes "Read Only" mode. It can be sovled for a while after the word program is closed, and then repeat. very painful! Please fix it. Zhao "Lenny" wrote: I'm having problems with all of my documents switching to Read-Only thus making it impossible to Save. I have to Save As and then delete the original document and rename the new document to its previous name making it an inconvenience. Sometimes, in the beginning when I open the document I'm able to save normally, then it switches to Read-Only which is a pain. Please Help Me! Thanks |
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Document switch to become Read-Only when it's not suppose to
I have the same problem too. i am using office 2007 in Win XP Pro enviroment.
When i first click "save" it is ok, but when i click "save" second times (sometimes third times or so), it becomes "Read Only" mode. It can be sovled for a while after the word program is closed, and then repeat. very painful! Please fix it. more info: I have norton internet security 2007 installed in my pc. the problem happened when i open old documents created in word 2003 and modify them in word 2007 environment (Compatibilty Mode) (i am not sure it happens or not if a doc is created originally in word 2007). ... and i save them in local hard drive, and the file/document is not password protected. Zhao "Beth Melton" wrote: The Protect Document command shouldn't cause what you are describing. If you use the Read Only option it doesn't force a Save As. Instead, it locks the document and you're unable to make modifications except for those areas that have been marked as exceptions. If you are saving documents to your local drive and not a network or external drive then that indicates a third-party conflict. The most common cause of what you describe is antivirus software. I'm not familiar with Norton 360 but even though you may have not made any changes Symantec does push updates to Norton. What would really help with this would be to have the exact message you have encountered. For example does it just tell you it's read only or are you encountering a message that says something about a temp file? Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email cannot be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Coauthor of Word 2007 Inside Out: http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "Lenny" wrote in message ... I'm using Norton 360 but this just happened recently like about 2 weeks ago and I haven't changed the settings of the antivirus program. When I press Ctrl+S it will pop up the Save As window. That's when I see the original document title say: Title (Read-Only) Actually I remember that I wanted to understand what the Protect Document button was all about. I clicked on it during one of my classes and then that's when this whole Read-Only issue occurred. I've tried unsuccessfully by clicking it to Track Changes, and then unchecking the box, but then it's still the same with all the other documents. And also, there is no password set up for that option either. Is it not possible for Microsoft Word to have an option where they reset or make the Protect Document button default to it's original setup again? Or is there a way to undo whatever I might have caused by a simple click of an icon or option? Otherwise, I'm kind of at a loss right now. It's not a big deal, but it is when an error message pops up in a few cases when I periodically save my document during class sessions and then what would have been a Save As document would try to recover itself from this Read-Only error (sorry I don't have the exact wording for this error message) |
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Document switch to become Read-Only when it's not suppose to
I'm having a similar thread on another Word NG. My current thoughts are
these... If the document is opened and saved (but NOT closed), even IF Word was adding the Read Only attribute, it should not affect the current editing session because the user has not closed and reopened the document. It should remain editable and save should work until the user has closed the document. Once the document is closed and reopened, it will be Read Only and the Read Only password prompt will pop up on opening. Then the user will be able to continue editing and saving. My conclusion is that there MUST be an incompatible third party add-in that is substituting Word's SaveAs macro with a custom macro that is not only adding a Read Only attribute to the document, but is making the open document Read Only immediately. I don't know how that can be done, but it must be through VBA coding as it isn't possible with the tools that I can see in Word. So I suggest that you look at third party add-ins that you have. Terry "Zhao" wrote in message ... I have the same problem too. i am using office 2007 in Win XP Pro enviroment. When i first click "save" it is ok, but when i click "save" second times (sometimes third times or so), it becomes "Read Only" mode. It can be sovled for a while after the word program is closed, and then repeat. very painful! Please fix it. Zhao "Lenny" wrote: I'm having problems with all of my documents switching to Read-Only thus making it impossible to Save. I have to Save As and then delete the original document and rename the new document to its previous name making it an inconvenience. Sometimes, in the beginning when I open the document I'm able to save normally, then it switches to Read-Only which is a pain. Please Help Me! Thanks |
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Document switch to become Read-Only when it's not suppose to
I checked the add-ins in the word program, and I disabled the two add-ins
(winfax and bluetooth, only these two) in my office program, but the problem is still there sometimes. by the way, i also found two macros in my word program (adobe and pure networks) but these two macros are digitally signed by microsoft. Zhao "Terry Farrell" wrote: I'm having a similar thread on another Word NG. My current thoughts are these... If the document is opened and saved (but NOT closed), even IF Word was adding the Read Only attribute, it should not affect the current editing session because the user has not closed and reopened the document. It should remain editable and save should work until the user has closed the document. Once the document is closed and reopened, it will be Read Only and the Read Only password prompt will pop up on opening. Then the user will be able to continue editing and saving. My conclusion is that there MUST be an incompatible third party add-in that is substituting Word's SaveAs macro with a custom macro that is not only adding a Read Only attribute to the document, but is making the open document Read Only immediately. I don't know how that can be done, but it must be through VBA coding as it isn't possible with the tools that I can see in Word. So I suggest that you look at third party add-ins that you have. Terry "Zhao" wrote in message ... I have the same problem too. i am using office 2007 in Win XP Pro enviroment. When i first click "save" it is ok, but when i click "save" second times (sometimes third times or so), it becomes "Read Only" mode. It can be sovled for a while after the word program is closed, and then repeat. very painful! Please fix it. Zhao "Lenny" wrote: I'm having problems with all of my documents switching to Read-Only thus making it impossible to Save. I have to Save As and then delete the original document and rename the new document to its previous name making it an inconvenience. Sometimes, in the beginning when I open the document I'm able to save normally, then it switches to Read-Only which is a pain. Please Help Me! Thanks |
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Document switch to become Read-Only when it's not suppose to
Uninstall all third party add-ins and macros. Until you have removed them,
you won't know if they are the cause of the problem. Digital signing has nothing to do with this: it just means they are certified as being genuine macros from Adobe and Pure Networks but it doesn't mean they are compatible with the applications. In fact, knowing what Pure Networks can do, it could certainly be causing the problem you are experiencing. Terry "Zhao" wrote in message ... I checked the add-ins in the word program, and I disabled the two add-ins (winfax and bluetooth, only these two) in my office program, but the problem is still there sometimes. by the way, i also found two macros in my word program (adobe and pure networks) but these two macros are digitally signed by microsoft. Zhao "Terry Farrell" wrote: I'm having a similar thread on another Word NG. My current thoughts are these... If the document is opened and saved (but NOT closed), even IF Word was adding the Read Only attribute, it should not affect the current editing session because the user has not closed and reopened the document. It should remain editable and save should work until the user has closed the document. Once the document is closed and reopened, it will be Read Only and the Read Only password prompt will pop up on opening. Then the user will be able to continue editing and saving. My conclusion is that there MUST be an incompatible third party add-in that is substituting Word's SaveAs macro with a custom macro that is not only adding a Read Only attribute to the document, but is making the open document Read Only immediately. I don't know how that can be done, but it must be through VBA coding as it isn't possible with the tools that I can see in Word. So I suggest that you look at third party add-ins that you have. Terry "Zhao" wrote in message ... I have the same problem too. i am using office 2007 in Win XP Pro enviroment. When i first click "save" it is ok, but when i click "save" second times (sometimes third times or so), it becomes "Read Only" mode. It can be sovled for a while after the word program is closed, and then repeat. very painful! Please fix it. Zhao "Lenny" wrote: I'm having problems with all of my documents switching to Read-Only thus making it impossible to Save. I have to Save As and then delete the original document and rename the new document to its previous name making it an inconvenience. Sometimes, in the beginning when I open the document I'm able to save normally, then it switches to Read-Only which is a pain. Please Help Me! Thanks |
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Document switch to become Read-Only when it's not suppose to
I'm having the same problem, although it occurs infrequently. Most of my
documents are running in Word 1997-2003 compatibility mode in Word 2007 on Vista Business with McAfee Security Center. I click on a doc and open it, edit it, then somewhere while I'm editing, it changes to Read Only so that when I go to save it, it says my editing can't be saved, so I have to alter the name of the doc to save it with my editing. I don't know why some docs will do this only infrequently, but it is annoying. I have never invoked document protection or passwords and the only add-on is the MS "Save docs as PDF" which has not been a problem for over a year. "Terry Farrell" wrote: Uninstall all third party add-ins and macros. Until you have removed them, you won't know if they are the cause of the problem. Digital signing has nothing to do with this: it just means they are certified as being genuine macros from Adobe and Pure Networks but it doesn't mean they are compatible with the applications. In fact, knowing what Pure Networks can do, it could certainly be causing the problem you are experiencing. Terry "Zhao" wrote in message ... I checked the add-ins in the word program, and I disabled the two add-ins (winfax and bluetooth, only these two) in my office program, but the problem is still there sometimes. by the way, i also found two macros in my word program (adobe and pure networks) but these two macros are digitally signed by microsoft. Zhao "Terry Farrell" wrote: I'm having a similar thread on another Word NG. My current thoughts are these... If the document is opened and saved (but NOT closed), even IF Word was adding the Read Only attribute, it should not affect the current editing session because the user has not closed and reopened the document. It should remain editable and save should work until the user has closed the document. Once the document is closed and reopened, it will be Read Only and the Read Only password prompt will pop up on opening. Then the user will be able to continue editing and saving. My conclusion is that there MUST be an incompatible third party add-in that is substituting Word's SaveAs macro with a custom macro that is not only adding a Read Only attribute to the document, but is making the open document Read Only immediately. I don't know how that can be done, but it must be through VBA coding as it isn't possible with the tools that I can see in Word. So I suggest that you look at third party add-ins that you have. Terry "Zhao" wrote in message ... I have the same problem too. i am using office 2007 in Win XP Pro enviroment. When i first click "save" it is ok, but when i click "save" second times (sometimes third times or so), it becomes "Read Only" mode. It can be sovled for a while after the word program is closed, and then repeat. very painful! Please fix it. Zhao "Lenny" wrote: I'm having problems with all of my documents switching to Read-Only thus making it impossible to Save. I have to Save As and then delete the original document and rename the new document to its previous name making it an inconvenience. Sometimes, in the beginning when I open the document I'm able to save normally, then it switches to Read-Only which is a pain. Please Help Me! Thanks |
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Document switch to become Read-Only when it's not suppose to
The problem seems disappeared so far after the Network Magic (Pure Networks)
is uninstalled. Thank you for your help. Zhao "Terry Farrell" wrote: Uninstall all third party add-ins and macros. Until you have removed them, you won't know if they are the cause of the problem. Digital signing has nothing to do with this: it just means they are certified as being genuine macros from Adobe and Pure Networks but it doesn't mean they are compatible with the applications. In fact, knowing what Pure Networks can do, it could certainly be causing the problem you are experiencing. Terry "Zhao" wrote in message ... I checked the add-ins in the word program, and I disabled the two add-ins (winfax and bluetooth, only these two) in my office program, but the problem is still there sometimes. by the way, i also found two macros in my word program (adobe and pure networks) but these two macros are digitally signed by microsoft. Zhao "Terry Farrell" wrote: I'm having a similar thread on another Word NG. My current thoughts are these... If the document is opened and saved (but NOT closed), even IF Word was adding the Read Only attribute, it should not affect the current editing session because the user has not closed and reopened the document. It should remain editable and save should work until the user has closed the document. Once the document is closed and reopened, it will be Read Only and the Read Only password prompt will pop up on opening. Then the user will be able to continue editing and saving. My conclusion is that there MUST be an incompatible third party add-in that is substituting Word's SaveAs macro with a custom macro that is not only adding a Read Only attribute to the document, but is making the open document Read Only immediately. I don't know how that can be done, but it must be through VBA coding as it isn't possible with the tools that I can see in Word. So I suggest that you look at third party add-ins that you have. Terry "Zhao" wrote in message ... I have the same problem too. i am using office 2007 in Win XP Pro enviroment. When i first click "save" it is ok, but when i click "save" second times (sometimes third times or so), it becomes "Read Only" mode. It can be sovled for a while after the word program is closed, and then repeat. very painful! Please fix it. Zhao "Lenny" wrote: I'm having problems with all of my documents switching to Read-Only thus making it impossible to Save. I have to Save As and then delete the original document and rename the new document to its previous name making it an inconvenience. Sometimes, in the beginning when I open the document I'm able to save normally, then it switches to Read-Only which is a pain. Please Help Me! Thanks |
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Document switch to become Read-Only when it's not suppose to
Zhao
Thanks for the confirmation. I expect that Pure Networks should be aware of the problem by now and should have a fix available. Terry "Zhao" wrote in message news The problem seems disappeared so far after the Network Magic (Pure Networks) is uninstalled. Thank you for your help. Zhao "Terry Farrell" wrote: Uninstall all third party add-ins and macros. Until you have removed them, you won't know if they are the cause of the problem. Digital signing has nothing to do with this: it just means they are certified as being genuine macros from Adobe and Pure Networks but it doesn't mean they are compatible with the applications. In fact, knowing what Pure Networks can do, it could certainly be causing the problem you are experiencing. Terry "Zhao" wrote in message ... I checked the add-ins in the word program, and I disabled the two add-ins (winfax and bluetooth, only these two) in my office program, but the problem is still there sometimes. by the way, i also found two macros in my word program (adobe and pure networks) but these two macros are digitally signed by microsoft. Zhao "Terry Farrell" wrote: I'm having a similar thread on another Word NG. My current thoughts are these... If the document is opened and saved (but NOT closed), even IF Word was adding the Read Only attribute, it should not affect the current editing session because the user has not closed and reopened the document. It should remain editable and save should work until the user has closed the document. Once the document is closed and reopened, it will be Read Only and the Read Only password prompt will pop up on opening. Then the user will be able to continue editing and saving. My conclusion is that there MUST be an incompatible third party add-in that is substituting Word's SaveAs macro with a custom macro that is not only adding a Read Only attribute to the document, but is making the open document Read Only immediately. I don't know how that can be done, but it must be through VBA coding as it isn't possible with the tools that I can see in Word. So I suggest that you look at third party add-ins that you have. Terry "Zhao" wrote in message ... I have the same problem too. i am using office 2007 in Win XP Pro enviroment. When i first click "save" it is ok, but when i click "save" second times (sometimes third times or so), it becomes "Read Only" mode. It can be sovled for a while after the word program is closed, and then repeat. very painful! Please fix it. Zhao "Lenny" wrote: I'm having problems with all of my documents switching to Read-Only thus making it impossible to Save. I have to Save As and then delete the original document and rename the new document to its previous name making it an inconvenience. Sometimes, in the beginning when I open the document I'm able to save normally, then it switches to Read-Only which is a pain. Please Help Me! Thanks |
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Document switch to become Read-Only when it's not suppose to
I have the same problem in Office 2007 Student & Teacher Edition in Win XP
Pro. I have no 3rd party add-ons. File was created in native Word 2007 (docx) format. Approximately 45 minutes into an editing session, if I hit Ctrl + S, the file switches to "Read-Only" and I have to save it as a new file. This happens pretty much every time (for this particular file). Doesn't happen in other files for some reason. "Zhao" wrote: I have the same problem too. i am using office 2007 in Win XP Pro enviroment. When i first click "save" it is ok, but when i click "save" second times (sometimes third times or so), it becomes "Read Only" mode. It can be sovled for a while after the word program is closed, and then repeat. very painful! Please fix it. Zhao "Lenny" wrote: I'm having problems with all of my documents switching to Read-Only thus making it impossible to Save. I have to Save As and then delete the original document and rename the new document to its previous name making it an inconvenience. Sometimes, in the beginning when I open the document I'm able to save normally, then it switches to Read-Only which is a pain. Please Help Me! Thanks |
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