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Old November 13th, 2006, 05:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.office.setup
Beth Melton
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Default 2007 setup/ Remove '03 first?

Bob Buckland just sent me the information he has on all of this.
Thanks Bob! You always seem to be on top of these things. :-)

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"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
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Have you checked Patrick Schmid's blogs for this error? I seem to
recall that he posted some good info on this.

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After furious head scratching, Beth Melton asked:

| Now I understand why you referenced the KB - I skimmed it and must
| have missed the warning at the end. Sorry about that - all of this
is
| new territory right now. :-)
|
| Actually, I think I picked up on: "Therefore, if you cannot remove
| 2007 Office suites, check the Microsoft Office newsgroups for
| information about how to manually remove 2007 Office suites from the
| computer." and overlooked the warning. (I won't share my thoughts on
| reading the note - but it was definitely a distraction. lol)
|
| Anyway, I suspect it's due to B2TR getting delivered as a patch and
| the Windows Installer would only remove B2 and the B2TR references
| would remain. I'll have to ask around to make sure for future
| reference, though.
|
| Prior to the creation of the Windows Installer Cleanup utility I
| experimented with manually deleing the entries. While it worked I
| wasn't sure it would be that easy! What I wasn't considering were
the
| other references to the GUID in the Registry. So manual removal can
be
| done but all references should be deleted as well - the Windows
| Installer Cleanup utility will remove all of them. So...right now
| that's the only thing I wonder about on removing the references
| manually - that others may have been left behind.
|
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|
| "Milhouse Van Houten" wrote in message
| ...
|| I was leery of of the collateral damage of using the Cleanup
utility,
|| particularly with the warning in the Readme ("NOTE: The Windows
|| Installer Clean Up Utility should not be used to remove the 2007
|| Microsoft Office System installation information), so I tried some
|| last-ditch efforts before resorting to it (my first-ditch efforts
are
|| too numerous to mention).
||
|| I noticed that even right-clicking one of the individual MSIs and
|| clicking Uninstall yielded the same "patch package could not be
|| opened...", so that wasn't an option, either.
||
|| Then I found this post:
||
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...a4fcd9 3f9db3
||
|| The key part of it was this:
|| 1) you might want to try deleting the key:
|| HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Installer\Prod ucts\{product
guid
|| for office 2000}\Patches
||
|| I tested it on the two OneNote instances first to see if it had any
|| effect (OneNote was a separate install), and remarkably, deleting
|| the two 'Patches' branches for OneNote allowed the uninstall to
|| actually get off the ground and work.
||
|| I then did the same for the 10 (or so) remaining 'Patches' entries
|| for the rest of Office, then ran the main uninstall, and that
|| worked, too.
||
|| Remarkable. This may have been much the same thing the Cleanup
|| utility would have done, but at least this way I knew what was
|| happening. There was a little bit of mop-up work to do afterwards,
|| but nothing that significant.
||
|| I truly hope that MS doesn't try one of these massive "Refresh"
|| patches with the next beta, as they've done with the betas for 2003
|| and 2007 (at least). When it works it works, when it doesn't it's a
|| spectacular mess. They should just release a fresh build (as they
|| supplied the press: they could install B2TR fresh), not a patch.
||
|| Thanks
||
|| "Beth Melton" wrote in message
|| ...
||| I'm not 100% certain it will work, since I haven't tried it
myself,
||| but all the Windows Installer Cleanup does is zap the installer
||| entries in the Registry - it doesn't remove any application files.
|||
||| In your error log it has: "MSI(INFO): 'This patch package could
not
||| be opened" which indicates the issue lies in the Windows Installer
||| entries. Here's another KB if you want to take a look at it as
||| well:
||| http://support.microsoft.com/kb/295823
|||
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||| Beth Melton
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|||
||| "Milhouse Van Houten" wrote in message
||| ...
|||| Is that good to use with Office 2007?
|||| http://support.microsoft.com/default...b/923718/en-us
||||
|||| "Beth Melton" wrote in message
|||| ...
||||| If I'm not mistaken, if you turn on "Show Updates" then B2TR is
||||| listed separately.
|||||
||||| If the installer files are missing then see if Windows Installer
||||| Cleanup utility works for you. Use it to remove only the
||||| references to the Office 2007 beta version. Once that is
complete
||||| then you'll need to reinstall the beta to point the Windows
||||| Installer to your installation CD so you can then uninstall
||||| Office:
||||| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=290301
|||||
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||||| Beth Melton
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|||||
||||| "Milhouse Van Houten" wrote in message
||||| ...
|||||| I chose "Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2007 (Beta)" from
|||||| Add/Remove -- I don't think there's a way to uninstall just
the
|||||| patch, since it replaces the B2 files wholesale.
||||||
|||||| Forgot about the log, but now that I look at it, the key part
|||||| seems to be this section. It's apparently looking for the Beta
2
|||||| files in a
||||||
"D:\WINDOWS\Installer\$PatchCache$\Managed\3012000 0-0011-0000-0000-0000000FF1CE"
|||||| directory, which isn't there for me. I do still have the B2 CD,
|||||| so it's too bad that it can't draw from that. I'm not sure what
|||||| should go in the directory, however, to get the uninstall to
|||||| work.
||||||
|||||| Catalyst Package Uninstall...
|||||| Package: ProWW
|||||| Package Code: {30120000-0011-0000-0000-0000000FF1CE}
|||||| Command Line: REBOOT=ReallySuppress LAUNCHEDBYSETUPEXE=1
|||||| SETUPEXEINSTALLUILANGUAGE=1033
||||||
SETUPINTLDLLDIRECTORY="D:\DOCUME~1\Home\LOCALS~1\T emp\Setup0000044c\"
|||||| Cannot locate any local install source for package
|||||| {30120000-0011-0000-0000-0000000FF1CE}. Original source will be
|||||| required for roll back on uninstall
|||||| MSI(INITIALIZE): '(null)'
|||||| MSI(COMMONDATA): '1: 0 2: 0 3: 1252 '
|||||| MSI(INFO): 'This patch package could not be opened. Verify
that
|||||| the patch package exists and that you can access it, or contact
|||||| the application vendor to verify that this is a valid Windows
|||||| Installer patch package.
|||||| D:\WINDOWS\Installer\193596.msi'
|||||| MSI(TERMINATE): '(null)'
|||||| Log level changed from: Standard to: Verbose
|||||| Error: Failed to configu ErrorCode: 1635(0x663).
||||||
|||||| "Beth Melton" wrote in message
|||||| ...
||||||| Did you try uninstalling the B2TR patch or did you try
||||||| uninstalling B2? Make sure you are uninstalling B2 rather than
||||||| the patch.
|||||||
||||||| If that's not it then check your error log and see if you can
||||||| determine the cause of the failure.
|||||||
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||||||| Beth Melton
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|||||||
||||||| "Milhouse Van Houten" wrote in message
||||||| ...
|||||||| Any advice on what to do if Office 2007 B2TR uninstall fails?
|||||||| About a minute after starting, it just quits and says that
the
|||||||| uninstall was not completed.
||||||||
|||||||| I have quite a tidy XP SP2 system, my Temp directory is
clear,
|||||||| and I've just rebooted as well.
||||||||
|||||||| What's the next step?
||||||||
|||||||| "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in
|||||||| message ...
||||||||| No. You need to remove all Office 2007 beta versions before
||||||||| installing 2007 RTM.