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Old October 15th, 2008, 07:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlook.installation
Thomas Bartlett[_2_]
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Default Old files appear in Reminder window

Thanks very much for the comments. I'm not aware of using any 'synch
software'. Could you give an example of that, or clarify what it does, or
otherwise help me to understand if I've been using this without realizing
it?

I have now downloaded and installed the Outlook Spy MAPI viewer, and it has
integrated itself into Outlook, so there is now a whole new taskbar of
buttons apparently related to MAPI activities. I have zero experience using
MAPI or in software development generally, so I'm really flying blind here,
so I'm not taking any action for now.

As mentioned in my separate reply to Brian Tillman's last posting, I have
succeeded in reinstalling Office 2003 and there appear to be no unwanted
reminders in this setup. But since I did buy the Office 2007 CD, at some
point presumably I'd like to 'upgrade' to that. I'm not sure whether the
unwanted reminders will appear then or not. I assume that the Outlook Spy
would be usable with Office 2007, if needed to find and delete excess
reminder files, as you wrote.

Learner


"Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" wrote in message
...
One possibility for the reminders is that either there are now more than
one Reminders folder (Reminders, Reminders1, Reminders2, etc.) or the
folder is corrupted, perhaps in its MAPI restriction. I've seen that a
number of times, mostly due to synch software that ends up replicating the
Reminders search folder.

If that's the case none of the usual switches helps (/resetfolders,
/cleanreminders, /cleansniff, etc.). The only thing that helps is to use a
MAPI viewer such as MFCMAPI or OutlookSpy (www.dimastr.com) to delete all
instances of the Reminders folder, then exit and restart with
/resetfolders. And to stop using that synch software after that of course.

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Professional Programming Outlook 2007.
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options.
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook]" wrote in message
...
"Learner" wrote in message
...

It rejected the 42 digit product key when I inserted that twice in the
require places at the start of the installation procedure. I assumed it
was
I had already installed this disk on at least two other computers
previously.


Could be, but I'm not sure that would be true at that point. Outlook
would notice that it had been installed on other PCs at activation time,
not at installation time. In my opinion, the most likely reason for
rejecting the key is either that it's the product key and not the
installation key that came with the CD or that it's the installation key
for a different Office suite than the one on the CD.

Sure did, but after clicking on 'dismiss all' the reminder window
doesn't
disappear at all; doing that simply sends the reminders program into
furious
activity as the displayed 'overtime' numbers are rewritten, so that the
hour-glass hangs for several minutes. The snooze time can't be reset to
any
option except the default 5 minutes.


Bummer. I've never seen that before.

I suppose you mean manually recreating the folder structure and rule
definitions. Yes, I could do that, and if all else fails I suppose I
will at
some point resort to that. However, it will be VERY time consuming, so
I
would rather find some way to 'introduce' into the default PST (whether
by
copying, or importing, or installing as default PST, or whatever means)
that
folder structure and that set of several dozen rules automatically, in
one or
two actions, doing that would not also 'introduce' this monstrous
activity of
the reminders program.


If this were mine to do, I'd just add the old PST as a secondary PST and
drag non-default folders. reminders can't fire in non-default folders,
so that can't lead to reminder problems.

I have tried configuring this old, large PST as the default, and the
result
is that the reminders, which lay dormant when the file was non-default,
have
become relentlessly active. I've repeatedly run the 'cleanreminders'
switch,
apparently to no effect. So I have now returned this PST to a
non-default
status, but the reminders still continue, maybe due to having been first
generated when it was the default personal folders file.


You should be able to use a MAPI tool like MDBVU32.EXE
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...E-127100D71376)
to open the Reminders folder and remove them.

The file in question, as shown on the drive, is 1.500kb in size,
according
to Windows Explorer.


Quite small for a PST. If you had said 1.5GB, then I'd think it was
large.

Outlook's Properties / Folder Size function also showed
about the same size, until I removed about 500kb of old messages, by
running
the export function and creating a new PST file. So Outlook's
Properties /
Folder Size function shows the mother folder size as now reduced to
about
950kb; however, in Windows Explorer the same file remains at the size
1,500kb.


Try compacting the file. Right-click its root in Outlook and choose
Properties, click Advanced, then click Compact Now.

I've opened several dozen of the 3,000 messages now shown in the
reminders
window, and I note that they all date from no later than 2006. Could
the
reminders be a function of the archive program? Is there some
configuration
there which I could reset, to remove these reminders?


See my earlier suggestion.
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]