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Old August 31st, 2004, 11:26 PM
Miss Perspicacia Tick
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Greg R wrote:
Miss Tick,

Any retail not student version of office can be installed on two
computers at the same time.


3) Retail versions of Office may be installed on one desktop and
one laptop (and this distinction is important as two systems of the
same type require two separate licences) providing that

That what I said duh


Erm, no it isn't - you said, and I quote "two computers" - which is not true
enough. Two desktops are two computers, two laptops are two computers, two
tablets are two computers, but each of those would require *A LICENCE EACH*

Please show me where you said exactly what I did. If you have done I will
withdraw my criticism and apologise.



a) It is for the sole use of the licencee (IOW, if you bought a
laptop and your wife was the sole user, then she would require her
own licence)


In windows xp & windows xp pro you can have user accounts.



Erm yes, I know. What has this to do with anything?

In a sense your are saying I could not let anyone use any program on
my own computer. That is the stupidest thing I even heard of.



Please show me where I said "any program". MS's rules don't govern other
developers' software. If you don't like the rules, don't buy the software -
no one is forcing you to - there are plenty of alternatives. Let me quote to
you from the EULA - the very same EULA you agreed to when you installed the
software, but obviously didn't bother to read.

"END-USER LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR *MICROSOFT* SOFTWARE
IMPORTANT—READ CAREFULLY: This End-User License Agreement ("EULA") is a
legal agreement between you (either an individual or a single entity) and
Microsoft Corporation for the Microsoft software that accompanies this EULA,
which includes associated media and Microsoft Internet-based services
("Software"). An amendment or addendum to this EULA may accompany the
Software. YOU AGREE TO BE BOUND BY THE TERMS OF THIS EULA BY INSTALLING,
COPYING, OR USING THE SOFTWARE. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE, DO NOT INSTALL, COPY,
OR USE THE SOFTWARE; YOU MAY RETURN IT TO YOUR PLACE OF PURCHASE FOR A FULL
REFUND, IF APPLICABLE.
1. GRANT OF LICENSE. Microsoft grants you the following rights provided
that you comply with all terms and conditions of this EULA:
1.1 Installation and use. You may:
(a) install and use a copy of the Software on one personal computer or
other device; and
(b) install an additional copy of the Software on a second, portable device
for the exclusive use of the primary user of the first copy of the
Software."

I'm not telling you anything. These aren't my rules - I did not write,
develop, encode, produce or distribute the software.

No
one has the right to tell me I can not share the use of the program.
If some person came over and asked to use my computer.



I suggest you learn to read. The "exclusive use" clause applies to the
secondary unit only. Anyone can use the first installation, but the second,
on the secondary system (and it can be a desktop if the primary installation
was on a portable) is for the exclusive use of the of the original licencee.
What the clause is intended to stop is casual piracy. IOW, you installing it
on a secondary system and giving it to someone else for /their/ exclusive
use. Occasional use by another individual, is allowable, I'm sure.

That’s my
choice and no eula is going to tell me otherwise period.


Erm, but it is. You agreed to the terms and conditions of the EULA by
installing, and continuing to use, the software. If you have now decided
that you no longer agree with the T&C of the EULA you must discontinue
using, and uninstall, the software.


If people
followed the eula, They would have to turn off the virus scanner,
when someone else is using my computer.


Erm, why? Has MS produced an AVP that I am not aware of? I don't think so!
So why would an EULA for a *MICROSOFT* product (specifically Office) apply
to your AVP (which is probably produced by Symantec)? I would say use some
common sense, but it is plain to see that you don't have any.

Actual no one follows the
eula including ms. Otherwise there would not have user accounts.


OK, I knew you were stupid, but this statement transcends stupidity. If you
don't know the difference between a separate system and a two user accounts
on the same system, then everything I have said up to this point has gone
right over your head.

Please tell me where, in the portion of the EULA quoted above, does it say
that each user account on the same machine requires a separate licence? As I
said, if you cannot differentiate between a separate machine, and a
secondary user account on the same system, then how you have the mental
capacity to even switch your system on, is beyond me.


b) They are not in use simultaneously.

Duh thats what I said.


As you don't appear to have the mental faculty to understand simple
English - much less write it - any argument you put forward must be
disregarded.



If that hasn't penetrated your cranium then I give up. I am not
going to repeat myself again. Maybe Bob or Milly has more patience -
mine has just expired.


Your one to talk.


I rest my case. Time for a grammar lesson - as you're so sorely in need of
one.

'Your' is a possessive adjective - 'your hat', 'your coat' 'your computer'

What you mean is 'you're' which is a contraction of 'you are'. Please learn
the difference - it'll make you look less of a f*ckwit (if that's possible).


I saw you debating with Mvp, and Microsoft Mike in


Who's 'Mvp'? I don't know of anyone with those initials. 'Microsoft Mike' (I
assume you mean Mike Brannigan) and I have known each other a very long
time.


Right, that's it. I am not going to argue with you anymore. I promised
myself I wasn't going to argue with morons because you just cannot win. All
that happens is that you end up exhausted because you expend so much energy
trying to hammer the message home. Either that, or they drag you down to
their level and beat you with experience.

I wash my hands of you. You are either too stupid - or too stubborn - (or
both) to listen to reason.



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