Apparently someone from Microsoft if forcing you to use=20
their Office products. They don't force us to. We tried=20
OO and Star Office for our small business and home use=20
and found them very lacking to say the least. OO and Star=20
Office are marketed against Office as an alternative, and=20
the average daily user power or not would have to totally=20
re-train themselves in usage. Cost ratio vs Office,=20
granted, it is more but, the range of products aptly=20
applied to each user more than makes up the difference.
I would use my old (oem)copy of Lotus Smart Suite 97=20
again before either OO or Star Office....
-----Original Message-----
Sorry, OO is not being "stooged" for power users but for=20
those who need
basic office tools at a price that is just plain okay. I=20
thoroughly support
helping someone who for whatever reason does not wish to=20
or can not obtain
and utilized the high powered and gawdy MS creations.
Making these priced right programs available to those=20
who would use them is
only common decency and will not cause lay offs at MS or=20
create any
financial havoc to their organization.
When I recently came on the scene this Milly person was=20
making an issue of a
person attempting to assist by offering the info and =20
then belittleing the
merits of OO.
Perhaps she needs another weekend that isn't quite=20
so "bad" precluding
propensity to mouth off at a person's attempt to help=20
someone else.
We realize this is an MS topic board and accord it all=20
the immense awe,
adoration and respectability it demands. However, I do=20
not believe a boundry
is drawn which precludes a simple statement offering an=20
alternative to
someone.
Thank you
Patriot
"Mercury" wrote in message
...
It seems you are the one who is attempting to put=20
someone down, while you
are stooging for OpenOffice. It is really not very=20
good, and lacks most of
the features power users need and want.
"Patriot" wrote in message
...
It's just Milly in yet another attempt to put=20
someone or something down.
Her
postings are of most value when ignored. Blames it=20
on a bad week end.
She rather resents, in this instance, the=20
recommendation of OO for the
lesser demanding users yet extolls virtue of some=20
other non MS program
and
rambles on about some other somewhat obscure OS. It=20
appears she is even
hung
up on Office 97 too.
Patriot
"Toby Ridge" wrote in=20
message
...
Why is this woman telling us about linux and her=20
smartsuite. I
couldn't
care
less and she should refrain from posting on this=20
newsgroup her
experiences
of
fringe packages. she knows it well (or ought to=20
know it) that this is
a
MS
hosted newsgroup dealing with Ms' products.
"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
Um, this is a forum to get assistance with=20
Microsoft Office, not
OO.o
or
Star Office. If you want to extol their=20
virtues, then post in a
place
appropriate to the product being extolled.
This is not one of them.
I use OO.o on my Linux machine (Mandrake 9.x)=20
and find it severely
lacking
from my expectations of what an office suite=20
should be. Even my old
Lotus
SmartSuite (1999?) does things a LOT better than=20
that program. It
has
a
LONG way to go for anyone who does more than=20
prepare a simple
document
or
uses a simple list in a spreadsheet.
And, as I said, the lack of a PIM is a major=20
drawback. Put in a
hook
to
Evolution (probably not possible now that Novell=20
owns it) and you
might
approach 25% of the functionality already=20
existing in Microsoft
Office
97.
--=81
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
Post all replies to the group to keep the=20
discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all=20
mail sent to my
personal
account will be deleted without reading.
After searching google.groups.com and finding no=20
answer, Patriot
asked:
| While the Microsoft public boards may not be=20
the most apropos area
to
| put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is=20
no troll. I
continually
| recommend and make it available to many=20
occasional, home and light
| office users.
|
| The MS renditions remain quite clutzy and over=20
loaded with junk
even
| after years of work. Using financial leverage=20
to replace
innovation
| and serving customer needs is the accepted=20
norm.
|
| Over pricing and scant regard for program=20
integrity and security
is
| to be expected and the reasons are quite clear=20
when dealing with
MS.
| After a few conversations with their=20
professional support people
one
| wonders what went wrong.
|
| So while I am forced to use many MS products I=20
am also quite aware
of
| the laggardly incorporation of the quality=20
design we should be
able
| to expect from the worlds software leader but=20
probably will never
get.
|
| OpenOffice is indeed a very legitament=20
alternative to those who
wish
| not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler=20
program will serve
| their needs. So in showing consideration for=20
these users it is
| totally in line to indicate there are other=20
options available to
them.
|
| Free is a good price for a great compromise=20
program.
|
| Thank you
|
| Patriot
|
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| =20
wrote in message
| ...
|| Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star=20
Office.
||
|| Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs=20
without half the
|| functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may=20
be enough - not for
|| power users. No PIM program, no office=20
automation, etc.
||
|| Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are=20
happy to get
assistance
|| with something that actually works as=20
advertised.
||
||
|| --=81
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the=20
discussion intact. Due
to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus,=20
all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without=20
reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding=20
no answer, niaxous
|| asked:
||
||| Hi,
|||
||| I know I am off the subject but Windows=20
Office is just soo
expensive
||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view=20
or write a
presentation.
||| In Europe the simple office version to an=20
end-user is ? 500
($600).
||| The lisence agreement that companies have to=20
pay per user in
their
||| company is way out and companies need to=20
judge, analyse and
implent
||| a cheaper solution.
||| There's one alternative which makes live=20
cheaper
www.openoffice.org.
|||
||| I downloaded this version and it's just=20
great to use.
||| It is only when you start using this open-
sourced office
version,
||| you see that those MS Office mechanism you=20
aquired throughout
the
||| years
||| are a bit a pain to implement but if you=20
stick to it(like I
did),
it
||| will eventually avoid paying those bucks to=20
MS.
||| No need to pirate it, it's for FREE!!!!!
||| If you have programming skills, modify it to=20
suit you or your
||| company.
|||
|||
||| I would like to have your comments, if you=20
have tried to use
||| openoffice or why you haven't tried it, yet=20
or why do you
continue
||| to pay when you can get the same for free.
|||
||| Niax
.