thanx for all the tips - but i've found a simple solution is to cover it up
with a drawing object )


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Selecting "different first page" does not create a new section.

then what does it do?

Creates (or rather, gives visibility to) a separate header and footer for
the first page of the section or doc. Similarly, 'Different Odd and Even'
gives visibility to a separate 'even' header and footer.

i need to use the simplest way to setup headers/footers, but leave out
page
numbering on 1 st page - when using built-in methods it sections off the
1st
page, so any other header/footer information has to be repeated in 2nd
page
(section)


You are right that you need to set up the headers and footers in two
places
if you use different 1st page - but it is confusing to think of this as
'sectioning off' - there is no Word Section Break involved. If you set
this
up in a template it's a once-off copying operation - use temporary page
breaks so you can see all the headers and footers while you work on them,
then delete the page breaks. Thereafter, those headers and footers will
appear/disappear according to the pages you have and the 'different first
page' page layout switch.

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