russ,

i am running officeXP, however, i am vague on needing to know the
association to the .tif extension. when you create the .tif file it isnt a
result of clicking on a .tif. it is the result of choosing the FAX as the
print device, clicking on 'print to file' and then typing a filename/path
into the dialogue that comes up. the dialogue wants to default to .prn
(whether the printer chosen is FAX or other), but it is actually generating
a .tif (when the printer is FAX) as that is the (i guess default) format for
a fax file. you can save it as a .prn and then rename it to .tif if you
want but the file really is a .tif. anyhow, after creating the file most
file viewers will show the image file fine.

printing a text/doc file to FAX, then using the 'print to file' capability
of that dialogue, does work fine. so i would suppose that is a supported
function. my only problem is why some print dialogues show the 'print to
file' others not. if the 'print to file' can be changed to the default for
the dialogue then in the case of programs who dont offer the choice i can
still get the file as i would change the behavior of the print dialogue to
force it to the 'print to file'. i wouldnt leave it that way permanently as
it would be a pita to have a all printouts go to file.

thanks.

jim


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
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Look at my post again.
I asked you what version of Office is installed because that will
determine
the file association for TIF files.
After that I can test your scenario. As I said, I've never seen anyone use
the Fax Service just to generate local TIF files. I'm not sure that's one
of
its supported functions.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"jim sturtz" wrote in message
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hi russ,

i thought the Fax Service was part of XP, using XP Pro at the office,
Home
at home? no? i added thru the control panel|add/remove
progs|add/remove
windows components.

[pardon my attachments, i hope they help explain. i added a couple of
small
screenshots so you can see the dialogue i am talking of, it seems either
it
is molded a little by each app or they have their own version of the
dialogue they present to the screen, as there can be slight differences
and
i would therefore suppose some items can be changed]

Just what is it you are trying to do? create a .tif file.

I've never seen anyone use the Windows XP Fax Service just to generate
a
TIF file. That's not what it's for. i've seen people open walnuts with
a
hammer, rather than a nutcracker, c'est la vie. but it does create a
..tif
when you 'print to file'. and i am trying to get a .tif file. so the
question remains, on a single page file the 'print to file' checkbox
comes
up when a choose the printer. and, since my 1st post, i have found some
software even with a multi-page post, allows that choice when you first
hit
the print dialogue, but before you choose the printer you want to go to.
however, when i was using turbotax once i choose the 'print to file'
dialogue doesnt come up. so i winds up going into the 'fax wizard'
rather
than asking me for an output file.

the 'print to file' checkbox on the printing dialogue is defaulting to
unchecked/blank/no. is it possible via the registry perhaps, to have
the
default be checked/true?

thanks.

jim

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
You did not provide complete information.
What version of Office is installed?
Just what is it you are trying to do?
I've never seen anyone use the Windows XP Fax Service just to generate
a
TIF
file. That's not what it's for.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"jim sturtz" wrote in message
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hi russ,

my default .tif view is to an 'Microsoft Office Document Imaging
File',
uses
a program called mspview. i can change to the program suggestion you
made,
and i'm sure it would use that viewer. are you sure changing viewers
would
affect the fax printer driver, print to file option? or give me the
ability
to create a .tif of a document i am trying to print, whether from
excel,
or
a word processor or whatever?

thanks.

jim

not sure i am understanding you correctly
"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
Windows Imaging and Fax viewer must be your default viewer for TIF
files.
You can easily restore that setting in Windows Explorer Folder
Options.
File Types. For most users the command line should read:

"rundll32.exe
drive:\WINDOWS\system32\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_Fu llscreen
%1"
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

"jim sturtz" wrote in message
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i could use FAX, in winXP, as a printer to 'print to file' and
create
.tifs.
it does and works great

i have recently run into a problem tho. that works for single
page
prints,
the print dialogue comes up and has a checkbox to 'print to file'
then
lets
me type in a filename.

but when i use some software the print dialogue when it comes up,
doesnt
have the 'print to file' checkbox or in the case of TurboTax when
it
has
a
whole bunch of pages to print, you never see the 'print to file'
between
pages, it just goes straight to the fax wizard. i found a
work-around
somewhat by using the wizard and then doing a 'preview' it brings
up
my
paint program and that lets me use the single-page print to fax
dialogue.

is there a registry entry to make the default 'print to file' box
be
checked? i looked around the registry some but didnt stumble over
anything
i recognized that would help.

failing a msfax based solution, anyone have any other ideas on a
program
to
make a textfile into a .tif?

thanks.

jim

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